Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)

[yeesecretalias]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

I have a question regarding the enabling of the msi mode for drivers. In the guru3d post you linked to in your guide, it says that the pci devices with negative value for IRQ are in MSI mode. I checked my PCI devices and they all have a negative IRQ value, does that mean I dont have to use MSI utility program ?

Most likely. Often MSI is enabled by default for devices, but it's a good idea to just use the MSI util to check quickly.

[qersoras]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

Nice article although , i tried everything on my 12900k/4090/4000c15 DDR4 system and didnt see any improvement on FPS. Lol

[daviddave1]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for frametimes 0-10ms graph various games: https://imgur.com/a/UmQoM2D
Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

Ty for this guide! There are def some new things here for me! Never heard of the auto gpu affinity tool for example
Gonna try it out once I am home.

I have a question about my Asus Bios for my 13900K cpu.

At point 7 of the Asus guide; "7. Set the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable."
I have the settings on auto. ( if I'm not mistaken I can't check it right now)

My goal is to get the best mousefeeling possible in Quake Live.

1. How important is it that I tweak the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable? I never tried this before. I have a feeling this gonna take me a whole afternoon at least. Is it worth the hassle?

2. I am gonna give Kirby OS Win10 1803 a try. I hear aloth about how since Win 10 1607 got updated people got locked out of there Query performance frequency. Can I do something to fix it? From my understanding the program: intelligent standbycleaner is not a optimum fix for this issue.

Hope to hear from you! Or someone else!

[Lev1n]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for frametimes 0-10ms graph various games: https://imgur.com/a/UmQoM2D
Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

Ty for this guide! There are def some new things here for me! Never heard of the auto gpu affinity tool for example
Gonna try it out once I am home.

I have a question about my Asus Bios for my 13900K cpu.

At point 7 of the Asus guide; "7. Set the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable."
I have the settings on auto. ( if I'm not mistaken I can't check it right now)

My goal is to get the best mousefeeling possible in Quake Live.

1. How important is it that I tweak the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable? I never tried this before. I have a feeling this gonna take me a whole afternoon at least. Is it worth the hassle?

2. I am gonna give Kirby OS Win10 1803 a try. I hear aloth about how since Win 10 1607 got updated people got locked out of there Query performance frequency. Can I do something to fix it? From my understanding the program: intelligent standbycleaner is not a optimum fix for this issue.

Hope to hear from you! Or someone else!

Is there a way to install drivers for 3xxx series nvdia driver for 1803? I couldnt install nvidia driver on that os. It does install but i cant use nvidia control panel.

[daviddave1]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for frametimes 0-10ms graph various games: https://imgur.com/a/UmQoM2D
Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

How important is a difference in Buffer size 7ms and 2.6ms ? My usb DAC does not use the High Definition Audio Device driver its not compatible; it uses the USB Audio 2.0 drivers from Microsoft. (I can also install the Amanero ASIO drivers) The USB DAC gives 7 ms and my onboard audio gicves 2.6ms. I ask cause i can use the optical output of my onboard audio and then connect to my dac where I then dont use the usb of the dac. Is that advisable?

EDIT: Calypto just tweeted to me that ASIO does not influences system latency for games??
He does not mention audio latency in his guide. It could be he find the whole audio latency thing negliglbe.
The tweet:
https://twitter.com/CaIypto/status/1745 ... NJiRw&s=19

Ps check out https://github.com/spddl/LowAudioLatency Its the low audio latency tool KirbyOS uses. it prob uses less recources then the program REAL.

[daviddave1]

Hello all.

This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!

This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.

https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)

Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.

Benchmarks for frametimes 0-10ms graph various games: https://imgur.com/a/UmQoM2D
Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg

HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!

Ty for this guide! There are def some new things here for me! Never heard of the auto gpu affinity tool for example
Gonna try it out once I am home.

I have a question about my Asus Bios for my 13900K cpu.

At point 7 of the Asus guide; "7. Set the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable."
I have the settings on auto. ( if I'm not mistaken I can't check it right now)

My goal is to get the best mousefeeling possible in Quake Live.

1. How important is it that I tweak the SA/Ring/Cache multiplier to max stable? I never tried this before. I have a feeling this gonna take me a whole afternoon at least. Is it worth the hassle?

2. I am gonna give Kirby OS Win10 1803 a try. I hear aloth about how since Win 10 1607 got updated people got locked out of there Query performance frequency. Can I do something to fix it? From my understanding the program: intelligent standbycleaner is not a optimum fix for this issue.

Hope to hear from you! Or someone else!

Is there a way to install drivers for 3xxx series nvdia driver for 1803? I couldnt install nvidia driver on that os. It does install but i cant use nvidia control panel.

Hey sry for the late reply! Somehow blurbuster did not gave the notification of your reply. I got my 4080 to work 1st try. But I always strip my driver manually. check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ie1wL ... el=FR33THY around the 12.00 how to do that ( its the last part) . But I switched now to Windows 1607 ( bought a second hand 150 euro 1080TI just to test it in Quake Live, gonna test Windows 7 Ultimate: Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service pack 1 later on with the 1080TI ( 40 series are not compatible)