FTTH desync

[ApexLeg]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

My friend trust me, I believe you 100%. Have you ever tried a smurf account? I've not played CS but you can Google CS smurf accounts and how the game runs a lot smoother on that account even with the exact same settings - people are leaning on the theory that it's account/inventory based.

But yeah, I share your frustration. I would rather have hard lobbies with no desync than play against bots and have desync.

[beirut__]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

My friend trust me, I believe you 100%. Have you ever tried a smurf account? I've not played CS but you can Google CS smurf accounts and how the game runs a lot smoother on that account even with the exact same settings - people are leaning on the theory that it's account/inventory based.

But yeah, I share your frustration. I would rather have hard lobbies with no desync than play against bots and have desync.

Yes brother. I have tried it. And guess what? 5 people reported me for cheating and that account got banned as they found my main. I won 10 matches in a row. But all of that lasts a couple of days and just comes back. Its like there is a curse in something

[ApexLeg]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

My friend trust me, I believe you 100%. Have you ever tried a smurf account? I've not played CS but you can Google CS smurf accounts and how the game runs a lot smoother on that account even with the exact same settings - people are leaning on the theory that it's account/inventory based.

But yeah, I share your frustration. I would rather have hard lobbies with no desync than play against bots and have desync.

Yes brother. I have tried it. And guess what? 5 people reported me for cheating and that account got banned as they found my main. I won 10 matches in a row. But all of that lasts a couple of days and just comes back. Its like there is a curse in something

Fair try. Which is why I believe it's lag compensation/account related. I don't know whether the game starts routing you with more hops or the lag compensation rewinds you more, honestly I'm a little past caring about it now and don't want to play Apex or Warzone any more because of it. Which is a shame because I like the social aspect of playing with friends but the majority of the time I come off pissed off at it and it's not worth it as it's something out of my control.

[beirut__]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

My friend trust me, I believe you 100%. Have you ever tried a smurf account? I've not played CS but you can Google CS smurf accounts and how the game runs a lot smoother on that account even with the exact same settings - people are leaning on the theory that it's account/inventory based.

But yeah, I share your frustration. I would rather have hard lobbies with no desync than play against bots and have desync.

Yes brother. I have tried it. And guess what? 5 people reported me for cheating and that account got banned as they found my main. I won 10 matches in a row. But all of that lasts a couple of days and just comes back. Its like there is a curse in something

Fair try. Which is why I believe it's lag compensation/account related. I don't know whether the game starts routing you with more hops or the lag compensation rewinds you more, honestly I'm a little past caring about it now and don't want to play Apex or Warzone any more because of it. Which is a shame because I like the social aspect of playing with friends but the majority of the time I come off pissed off at it and it's not worth it as it's something out of my control.

Yep. I understand you. Im close to that breaking point too. Honestly, i cant afford anymore of my time or resources with the thing thats out of my control. Its just frustrating that someone plays all their life without ever experiencing this shitty problem. But what can we do? Nothing. Just leave the gaming forever....

[Kyouki]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

Seems or sounds like you have to find or address your bufferbloat related issues.

Here some sources:
https://hackaday.com/2022/08/18/bufferb ... to-fix-it/
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/

also test on various places like:
https://speed.cloudflare.com/

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I also think, since a lot of us "suffer" from this, it could also just be mental state. Gaming is a lot about that too, doesn't always have to be a computery-networky problem after all.
If my tests seem okay, I am just gonna full-on assuming my tests are correct and not worry about it too much but focus instead more on improving your play. Sometimes you find these hard walls, and you want to blame changes or systems, when sometimes it's just mostly your own perception. Can't bruteforce this!

[JustNumber]

I am running 2 internets at home . Coax 1000/100 and FTTH Fiber 1000/1000 and i have less desync on coax to be honest .

[ApexLeg]

Wow... I literally want to cry knowing that there is someone else with this problem. I dont know why or how, but this is happening to me 90% of the time. The only game I play is counter strike, I have 3.6 k hours in this game. I have been playing it since it came out...I know that I dont lack skill or mechanic or game sense, I am sure about it, I have made it clear to myself a lot of times. This problem has fucked my confidence real good. People are considering me noob and telling me to quit game, and this is ver, irritating as I know my potential and I know that I could stomp these people ...if just I didnt have this problem .... I dont know. Its like my head has a magnet for their bullet. Literally. Out of three people running, I am the one that gets hit, always. Whenever I try to peek, no matter how cautious I am, how focused, how determined, I get insta tapped. I want to cry. I have tried so many tweaks. I built a new pc. I tried playing on lte from usb tethering. This shit always comes back. I can literally instantly say after one second into the game that something is off. Bro. When it happens that for some reason the game is synchronised and my shots are being registered.... Not one match I win without getting w
2.5/3.0 KD. PEOPLE WERE ADDING ME ASKING ME FOR MY CONFIG AND BEGGING ME TO PLAY WITH THEM. And day or more after, I am a walking noob that everyone has advantage over. Last night, I stayed up until 3 am even though I work at 7am just desperately trying to figure it out. Done net tweaks, registry tweaks, bios tweaks, windows tweaks, memory tweaks, mouse tweaks.... Tested my pc, all great, but when i tested for bufferbloat it says that I have a C and a very big bufferbloat. Honestly, I dont know what to do. Im losing my sleep and I am smoking more than I ever did..... What has my life come to after this shitty experience.... I think it has come to one main point. To just destroy all my configuration and leave everything.....

Seems or sounds like you have to find or address your bufferbloat related issues.

Here some sources:
https://hackaday.com/2022/08/18/bufferb ... to-fix-it/
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/

also test on various places like:
https://speed.cloudflare.com/

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I also think, since a lot of us "suffer" from this, it could also just be mental state. Gaming is a lot about that too, doesn't always have to be a computery-networky problem after all.
If my tests seem okay, I am just gonna full-on assuming my tests are correct and not worry about it too much but focus instead more on improving your play. Sometimes you find these hard walls, and you want to blame changes or systems, when sometimes it's just mostly your own perception. Can't bruteforce this!

Personally for me, every time I've ran bufferbloat or packet loss tests they always come back as absolutely fine. Bufferbloat A+ and 0 packet loss using different methods and packets. I couldn't set up my router or PC any better from my perspective, so it's why I think Lag Comp is screwing me over.

I understand your perspective of trying to get better at the game, but it's nigh on impossible when 10 bullets hit you in the space of what seems like 2 bullets and peeking gets you knocked fast. It's not my reaction times either as again, I've done tests.

When I watch other people's gameplay who don't have this issue I see they fly around corners and it looks like their enemy is a second behind as they start shooting and the enemy only starts reacting a second later, I guarantee I am like that on the enemies screen yet on mine they appear instantly.

Like I said, in the rare cases I don't get this issue the game plays and looks completely different and Apex always put you in the same lobbies so it's not the lobby difficulty. Even my recoil seems easier to control when theres no desync, but that could be a mental thing but it definitely feels like its easier.

[Kyouki]

I am running 2 internets at home . Coax 1000/100 and FTTH Fiber 1000/1000 and i have less desync on coax to be honest .

Which always put me personally at awe, and find it interesting statement as since given the comparison between the two below (chatGPT vs Bing for fun) you'd think it would be better or should be. I still like to blame the game being designed in a certain way to balance it out fairly (tttempting to) because fiber all the way is just so much faster and not everyone in the globe has this yet.

ChatGPT:

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1. Transmission Medium:
   - Coax: Uses copper-based coaxial cables to transmit data. It's a type of electrical cable with a central conductor, insulator, and outer shielding.
   - FTTH: Utilizes optical fiber cables made of thin strands of glass or plastic that transmit data using light signals.

2. Speed and Bandwidth:
   - Coax: Offers high-speed internet, but its bandwidth is generally lower compared to fiber optics. Speeds can vary based on the technology used (e.g., DOCSIS 3.1).
   - FTTH: Provides higher bandwidth and faster speeds, making it capable of delivering gigabit and even multi-gigabit speeds.

3. Signal Quality and Interference:
   - Coax: Susceptible to electromagnetic interference, which can impact signal quality. However, advancements in technology and shielding help mitigate these issues.
   - FTTH: Resistant to electromagnetic interference, providing a more stable and reliable signal.

4. Distance Limitations:
   - Coax: Signal strength can degrade over longer distances, affecting performance. Amplifiers may be required for extended cable runs.
   - FTTH: Can transmit data over longer distances without significant signal degradation, making it suitable for broader geographical coverage.

5. Deployment and Installation:
   - Coax: Already widely deployed for cable television, which can facilitate the provision of internet services. Installation may involve upgrading existing infrastructure.
   - FTTH: Requires laying new fiber optic cables, which can be more expensive and time-consuming. However, it offers a more future-proof solution.

6. Cost:
   - Coax: Generally less expensive to deploy and maintain, especially in areas where coaxial infrastructure is already in place.
   - FTTH: Initial deployment costs can be higher due to the need for new infrastructure, but long-term operational costs may be lower.

vs Bing's reply:

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Sure, here's a comparison between Coaxial Cable (Coax) and Fiber-to-the-Home (FTTH):
Coaxial Cable (Coax):
- Advantages:
    - High data transmission speed.
    - More resistant to Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) compared to twisted pair.
    - Lower cost and easier to install compared to FTTH.
    - Supports high bandwidth signal transmission.
    - Can carry signals over longer distances with less loss.
- Disadvantages:
    - Bulky and difficult to work with for longer distances.
    - Susceptible to security breaches as they are easy to tap.
    - Relatively constrained bandwidth and prone to signal loss over extended distances.
Fiber-to-the-Home (FTTH):
- Advantages:
    - High-speed internet access, with speeds that can range from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps.
    - More reliable than copper-based alternatives like DSL and cable modems.
    - Provides symmetrical upload and download speeds.
    - Can provide a significant amount of bandwidth.
    - Scalable and future-proof technology.
- Disadvantages:
    - More expensive than traditional copper-based alternatives like DSL and cable modems.
    - Requires significant installation time.
    - Not yet widely available, particularly in rural or remote areas.
    - Installation and maintenance can be affected by weather conditions.
In terms of which is better, it depends on your specific needs and circumstances. FTTH provides higher speeds and reliability, making it ideal for heavy internet usage and businesses. However, Coax is more affordable and easier to install, making it a good choice for average home users and areas where FTTH is not available. It's always best to consider your specific needs, budget, and available options when choosing between the two.

[caponew0w]

My journey started like 2 and half years ago when I first moved from an apartment to house.. From being a god in every game and having even boosting sites for csgo, to getting trashed by silvers in every game.. I have a couple posts in the emi subforum providing videos of my gameplay.. In that house I changed 3 computers and 2 monitors, was running on 1gbps upload/download FTTH with amazing results in all the network tests.. Even talked to my ISP about this and changed my modem (the one the fiber goes in).. Then I said okay, I installed one more ISP running house to street coaxial, then fiber to the centers.. Nothing helped.. Found out that I have no grounding in my house.. Installed grounding via 3 large metal poles.. Paid tons of money.. Guess what, nothing changed. Not even 1% improvement.
A couple of months ago I changed locations to my current house, in another city, now I am at country side with a couple of neighbours close to me and no towers close by.. Even my house is not close by the electricity lines from the street.. Same issues here.. Changed computer again once and still the same.. By the time I moved here it was already the same ISP with coax to the street then fiber.. 1 Week ago I installed full FTTH and the only improvement is the lower ping. Getting "A" bufferbloat..

The amount of baits I had while trying to solve this.. Is insane.. Everytime it came back.. Changed outlets, bios settings, windows settings, usb ports, power savings, literally everything.. Always I got baited by the same thing, "I fixed it".. It came back.. And for some reason I got so baited by the things that you guys mentioned as well.. When I first changed my steam account I was literally shocked how well the game performed, both faceit and matchmaking, both valve deathmatch and public deathmatch servers.. It kinda lasted a couple of days, in this time I had to cancel my old faceit account and start a new one. I did not test other games by that time. I recently tried some PCIE network adapters, they worked amazing for 1-2 days. Same with any PCIE / Usb expander that I plugged my mouse / keyboard / headphones in. Its like everything gets infected.

Daily I am checking this forum and reddit and a couple of discords in the hope that someone found something stable to try and fix or make this issue more acceptable..

I am almost on the edge of giving up for the moment.. Tomorrow I will order a online ups with double conversion, for some the issues were fixed with this, for some it was improved and for some it did not make a single difference, if it will not improve my issues for long term at least I can better protect my equipment. In this current house I have issues with the voltage, there are moments in the day where my voltage stabilizer starts dancing and making a lot of clicks, but this was not the case in my old house where it was constant all the time. I dont know, this is very hard and very strange.. And very consuming.. People might blame me for spending that much money and time on this crap.. Well I only have a small couple of hours left each day when I can relax and I want to play something. But for the last years, gaming was a frustrating experience. I totally feel all of you, I've been there and I am there. After this years I learned two things: 1. dont spend the money that you cannot or barely afford.. I did this and it made it all more painfull. and 2. Never ever I have blamed someone again for playing bad in my team.

Also I see people complaining that "you die too easy".. I can agree, as stupid as this sounds.. I am (or was..) an Escape From Tarkov player, in this game you dont have HUD to see who is your teammate.. My friend would accidentally kill me some times and he was literally in shock how easily I would die.. He knows about my issues and I told him that this happens to me in all the games haha. Now, recently, Tarkov Arena launched, a 5v5 using the Tarkov mechanics that also has a deathcam.. While most of the time I was shooting literally almost full mags in my enemy to get a kill, 60% of the time I died it literally look like an accident. The other 40% time was the enemy spray and bullets working correctly, as they should.. I have 6000 hours in Escape From Tarkov but was forced to quit it.. In this game, if you dont have issues, it is so so so easy to get kills, as hitreg always felt like client sided. But my client does not work accordingly.

Also, yes, in the few times things work normally I would wipe any server in any game.. People blame me and start cheating as revenge, or they add me to play together..

I'll see how it goes, wish you all the best <3

edit so you dont have to search my posts:
https://youtu.be/-DHLaVU00A0

[ZINZIRIO]

Thank you very much for all your answers, it is appreciated... in my case I think it is the game engine because it happens to me with some games but with others everything works perfectly as it should... now the strangest thing of all is that yes I play with LTE, exactly the same thing happens to me, so it's not a FTTH problem either... unless it has something to do with routing or something similar... I have two friends with FTTH who have the same thing happen to them, they die almost instantly... Perhaps in my case the DSL technology, which is where it worked well for me, does not have that problem but since they put me on FTTH it is incredible how quickly I die.