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7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 08 Apr 2024, 14:16
by phaze
Hey guys,

I'm still trying to figure out whether I should go for AMD 7800X3D or the 14700KF when it comes to achieving the lowest latency and game to be responsive.

ppl claim that the X3D is much better and probably has equal or less latency like Intel, but I still feel like it wouldn't feel smooth even though high fps for the AMD rig.

Currently on 5800X and 3070, high fps in valorant, but game still feels weird, delayed, not responsive and inconsistent (PC is optimized)

I'm still trying to get an actual answer based on trials.

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 08 Apr 2024, 19:28
by TheKelz
It is absolutely smooth on high FPS on AMD. I've been an Intel user myself for a decade, recently switched to a 7800X3D and I don't think I've ever seen/felt my games this smooth. So if anything, I'm confident it's Intel that doesn't feel as smooth as AMD right now.

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 09 Apr 2024, 05:36
by 310094303
TheKelz wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 19:28
It is absolutely smooth on high FPS on AMD. I've been an Intel user myself for a decade, recently switched to a 7800X3D and I don't think I've ever seen/felt my games this smooth. So if anything, I'm confident it's Intel that doesn't feel as smooth as AMD right now.

Is desync or inputlag present?

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 09 Apr 2024, 13:18
by Slender
7700x best choice for latency for right now (low c2c latency and usb cpu port)

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 10 Apr 2024, 12:34
by Kuscheln_Hammer92
Checkout the Gamer nexus review of the 7800x3d. It's not latency specific but they delve into frame times and potential issues with them impact people more than the nanoseconds between two high end cpu's.

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 10 Apr 2024, 17:12
by TheKelz
310094303 wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 05:36
TheKelz wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 19:28
It is absolutely smooth on high FPS on AMD. I've been an Intel user myself for a decade, recently switched to a 7800X3D and I don't think I've ever seen/felt my games this smooth. So if anything, I'm confident it's Intel that doesn't feel as smooth as AMD right now.

Is desync or inputlag present?
No, this is the best my games felt for a long a time. With that being said, I do actually have small input lag issues by I found out that it’s my monitor, it has nothing to do with my system.

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 11 Apr 2024, 11:23
by 310094303
TheKelz wrote:
10 Apr 2024, 17:12
310094303 wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 05:36
TheKelz wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 19:28
It is absolutely smooth on high FPS on AMD. I've been an Intel user myself for a decade, recently switched to a 7800X3D and I don't think I've ever seen/felt my games this smooth. So if anything, I'm confident it's Intel that doesn't feel as smooth as AMD right now.

Is desync or inputlag present?
No, this is the best my games felt for a long a time. With that being said, I do actually have small input lag issues by I found out that it’s my monitor, it has nothing to do with my system.
thanks for sharing your experience, maybe I will try 7800x3d

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 19 Apr 2024, 00:48
by Vocaleyes
Slender wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 13:18
7700x best choice for latency for right now (low c2c latency and usb cpu port)
Can anyone personally attest to CPU handled USB ports vs chipset handled USB ports? Purely from an input response perspective.

Not interested about speeds or anything technical, but rather the feel.

As I’m aware Intel don’t tend to do cpu handled usb ports any more whereas AMD do, so I’m wondering if it’s worth the comparison as a potential culprit for these issues.

From watching this guys gameplay, you can clearly see he doesn’t have the issue https://youtu.be/p-x2UQq9H0U?feature=shared

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 20 Apr 2024, 00:02
by Slender
Vocaleyes wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 00:48
Slender wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 13:18
7700x best choice for latency for right now (low c2c latency and usb cpu port)
Can anyone personally attest to CPU handled USB ports vs chipset handled USB ports? Purely from an input response perspective.

Not interested about speeds or anything technical, but rather the feel.

As I’m aware Intel don’t tend to do cpu handled usb ports any more whereas AMD do, so I’m wondering if it’s worth the comparison as a potential culprit for these issues.

From watching this guys gameplay, you can clearly see he doesn’t have the issue https://youtu.be/p-x2UQq9H0U?feature=shared
im sure amd cpu usb more responce then all intel i have (z390/z490/z690/z790).
i had 5800x + unify x570s (cpu usb 2.0 port)

Re: 7800X3D VS 14700KF in terms of latency and smoothness

Posted: 20 Apr 2024, 09:51
by Vocaleyes
Slender wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 00:02
Vocaleyes wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 00:48
Slender wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 13:18
7700x best choice for latency for right now (low c2c latency and usb cpu port)
Can anyone personally attest to CPU handled USB ports vs chipset handled USB ports? Purely from an input response perspective.

Not interested about speeds or anything technical, but rather the feel.

As I’m aware Intel don’t tend to do cpu handled usb ports any more whereas AMD do, so I’m wondering if it’s worth the comparison as a potential culprit for these issues.

From watching this guys gameplay, you can clearly see he doesn’t have the issue https://youtu.be/p-x2UQq9H0U?feature=shared
im sure amd cpu usb more responce then all intel i have (z390/z490/z690/z790).
i had 5800x + unify x570s (cpu usb 2.0 port)
Interesting. I guess another way to check would be to ask whether or not PS4 native runs through a chipset or direct to cpu. As the issue was also present there. Any idea?