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nuninho1980
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Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by nuninho1980 » 08 Nov 2014, 15:32

Hello! :)

WARNING: - PLEASE do NOT say "infinite colors" (except CRT monitor/TV because any CRT TV color and CRT monitor since 90's have "infnite colors" ready) nor "infinite overclock" nor "infinite resolution"!! I will ask to the administrator or moderate for to suspense the user(s)

I'm recommended you need CRT monitor (it may be old/"backup") or LightBoost monitor for no motion blur and for high vertical frequency (but if you get still any lag then you find reduce or increase to any Hz (may from 48Hz*** to 240Hz****) to pure smooth motion) and you should enable VSYNC (vertical sync for to eliminate tearing :D). You may need LCD 120Hz for some games (e.g.: Test Drive Unlimited only 91fps+91Hz (not less nor more)) but this "classic" LCD is NOT recommended because any LCD (except LightBoost) has still motion blur problem.

-When your eyes are moving by any direction angle the text or object(s) moving, you get pure smooth motion running 60fps@60Hz (or 100fps@100Hz...);
-When your eyes are freezing the text or object(s) moving or are searching the text or object(s) fixing, you get 60fps (or 100fps...) running 60fps@60Hz (or 100fps@100Hz...). (Respectively by look framerate and framerate@Hz)

List of "pure" smooth motion for PC:
Multimedia videos as TV, dvd, bluray except cinema/films* - despite the pc gets only x** fps running x** Hz (PAL or NTSC but you may would prefer despite your region ;)) with VSYNC enabled, you can get "pure" smooth motion.
You relember we already got "pure" smooth motion when we watched sports, news, most Brazilian telenovelas except films and series*****. ;)

NOTE: if you have videos PAL then you can never get "pure" smooth motion :( for (almost) all laptop's use only 60Hz (not less nor more and monitor integrated) or for most LCD monitors have only minimum 56 Hz.



List of games (gaming videocard (mid- and high-end) recommended as geforce 6600/6800, 7600, radeon x850, x1800 or faster):
-Test Drive Unlimited - only 91 fps*1 (less or more fps may be the little lag/micro-stutter)
-DOOM 3*2, Quake IV*2 except Wolfenstein 2009 (without any stutter despite ID Software game but and new Activision?!!! ) - only 60 fps but stutter per 0.3 seconds
-NFS: Shift*3 - 50 to infinite fps
-NFS Pro Street v1.0*3 except v1.1 (for up to 30fps capped) - 50 fps to infinite fps
-Outrun 2006*4 - 50 to 60fps capped
-Pro Soccer Evolution Series (*3 for PES2008/9 only) - only 60fps except PES 2010*3 - only 63fps capped (less or more fps may be the little lag/micro-stutter)
-FlatOut 1 and 2 (racing/battle cars) - 50 and (not "to") 100 fps (if yes "to" then it may be the little lag/micro-stutter)
-Happy Potter Series -> until "Happy Potter: Goblet of Fire" - 50 to infinite fps
-GTA 4*5 - 50 to infinite fps
-Games Arcade (MAME/NeoGeo) emulators - most games only 60fps and other games 50~63fps. but I don't remember it. :D
-...
EXCEPT no "pure" smooth motion in games:
-Happy Potter Series since Happy Potter: Order of the Phoenix - only up to 30 fps - therefore I don't like it! :? :(
-GTA San Andreas - still no solution despite 60 fps or faster framerate...
-TDU 2 - still no solution...
-...

*1 - You have Core2Duo 2.93GHz or if you have C2D CPU you can do overclock to 3.0GHz for highly recommend. you add 91 Hz w/ any resolution in custom resolution in NV control panel (or in ATI CCC?) to activate for to appear "91 Hz" in TDU game but may not work in Win 7.
*2 - I tried any Hz but it's still impossible 100% time of pure-smooth motion. Despite I got constantly 60fps running 60Hz, I got micro-stutters "jumped" but it's normal. :)
*3 - CPU Core2Duo or AMD64 x2 recommended.
*4 - GeForce 6200 or Radeon 9500 may get pure smooth motion but low resolution screen w/ all max setting.
*5 - Core 2 Quad recommended :o ;) I got mini-time pure smooth motion (@60hz+60fps+vsync) in GTA4 when I see the sea or sky because I didn't have quad core cpu for my old motherboard not supported therefore I was unlucky. :( But now I have CPU quad-core (i5-2500K)! :)

* - some LCD/Plasma/LED/future (AM)OLED TV/projectors only are supported 24p(/25p/30p ?) "magic" for pure smooth motion.
** - x -> this variable should 50Hz+50fps or 60Hz+60fps..., for example.
*** - some CRT/LCD monitors SONY and other brand supported.
**** - some CRT projector-cinema (or monitors?) supported but I don't know what is the brand.
***** - pure smooth motion especially during a bit or short time.

-Can you understand well?
-Do you like my thread? :)

Good luck!!


NOTE: sorry for bad english. ;)
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Re: Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by nuninho1980 » 08 Nov 2014, 16:12

Ah...

22:20 (UTC - Europe): For multimedia PAL: Blur Reduction by Benq can work 50 Hz!! :D But LightBoost may not work 50Hz.
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Re: Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by Falkentyne » 08 Nov 2014, 16:51

50 hz apparently works on 2420Z (chief got it on his 2420Z monitor apparently successfully). It does NOT work on the 2720Z unless you change the vertical total to higher (e.g. 1260). Seems to be a firmware bug; it tries to work, but instead of strobing, the picture just becomes incredibly bright (brighter than 100%), and may either cause the monitor to hard reset (probably to protect the backlight) or to shut the backlight off (ilke if you were using an out of range VT or signal).
Raising the VT makes it work (apparently, the monitor gets 'tricked' into using the 60 hz backlight pulse widths, whenever you change the VT too far beyond standard settings, and since its using 60hz pulse widths, strobing then works), but the flickering will literally give you a seizure--just DON'T use 50hz even if it works.
I can tolerate the 60hz flicker...I could tolerate it on a CRT also. 60 hz is at the borderline of what can drive someone crazy, but 50 hz flicker...you'll wind up in bad shape if you use it.

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Re: Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by nuninho1980 » 08 Nov 2014, 17:20

Falkentyne wrote:50 hz apparently works on 2420Z (chief got it on his 2420Z monitor apparently successfully). It does NOT work on the 2720Z unless you change the vertical total to higher (e.g. 1260). Seems to be a firmware bug; it tries to work, but instead of strobing, the picture just becomes incredibly bright (brighter than 100%), and may either cause the monitor to hard reset (probably to protect the backlight) or to shut the backlight off (ilke if you were using an out of range VT or signal).
Raising the VT makes it work (apparently, the monitor gets 'tricked' into using the 60 hz backlight pulse widths, whenever you change the VT too far beyond standard settings, and since its using 60hz pulse widths, strobing then works), but the flickering will literally give you a seizure--just DON'T use 50hz even if it works.
I can tolerate the 60hz flicker...I could tolerate it on a CRT also. 60 hz is at the borderline of what can drive someone crazy, but 50 hz flicker...you'll wind up in bad shape if you use it.
Thank for Benq. :)

My eyes haven't any problems despite CRT@50 Hz but 50 Hz is for multimedia ONLY! ;)
I've watched to get amazing SportTV HD (Portugal) at 1080i@50Hz! :D
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Re: Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by blargg » 08 Nov 2014, 23:15

nuninho1980 wrote:My eyes haven't any problems despite CRT@50 Hz but 50 Hz is for multimedia ONLY! ;)
It works for dimmer images, like grass fields etc. rather than solid white areas like a computer desktop. I tried 30Hz with my strobed backlight mod and while it made 30FPS video clips look smooth, my eyes were screaming in agony.

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Post by masterotaku » 09 Nov 2014, 03:39

I don't exactly get what this thread is about ("fps=Hz is good" stuff?), but I have to say that Doom 3 is perfectly smooth at 62.5Hz with BenQ blur reduction and vsync.
nuninho1980 wrote:(high-end videocard recommended as geforce 6800, 7800, radeon x850, x1800 or faster)
This post comes from the past, it seems.
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Re: Pure-smooth motion - games list and multimedia

Post by nuninho1980 » 09 Nov 2014, 06:21

masterotaku wrote:I don't exactly get what this thread is about ("fps=Hz is good" stuff?), but I have to say that Doom 3 is perfectly smooth at 62.5Hz with BenQ blur reduction and vsync.
nuninho1980 wrote:(high-end videocard recommended as geforce 6800, 7800, radeon x850, x1800 or faster)
This post comes from the past, it seems.
Ok but these videocards are examples... And mid-end videocards - look OP edited due to must be all max settings with 8x or 16x anisotropic filtering (AF) (but antialiasing (AA) enabled or disabled). ;)
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Post by RealNC » 09 Nov 2014, 08:28

Geforce 6800... Radeon x850...

:lol:

What about a 486 or a Commodore 64? That Atari 2600 is also very impressive, or so I hear :mrgreen:
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