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Weird input lag?

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 16:03
by sapphireflyer
Hello,

this is my first post here and I post in this forum because I couldnt find an answer in other forums because they always tell me to just turn
off vsync.

So here is my problem: I play CSGO alot and I always have/had this weird input lag where my mouse just doesnt feel responsive.
It feels like my mouse is some miliseconds behind my picture onscreen. I searched everything for a solution but I cant find anything anymore.

My computer and setup:

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790k - 4x 4,00 GHz
CPU-Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 Liquid Cooler
MB: Asus ROG MAXIMUS VII RANGER X97
RAM: HyperX Beast 16GB - 1866 MHz
SSD: 2x Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" - 250 GB
HDD: Samsung Harddisk - 1 TB
GPU: EVGA 980Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+
PSU: Corsair AX760 Modular - 760 Watt
CASE: NZXT H440 - black/red



MOUSE: Zowie FK2
KEYBOARD: Corsair K70
MOUSEPAD: Zowie G-SR
MONITOR: BenQ XL2720Z


Can someone please tell me something that lets me test input lag. I have V4 for my 2720Z and everything is pretty new so that shouldnt be a problem. Blur reduction is off.

Thank you really much!

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:11
by Q83Ia7ta
Try to install fresh OS, videocard driver and just try to play CS:GO. There is no software that can tell you have you input lag or not.

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:15
by sapphireflyer
Q83Ia7ta wrote:Try to install fresh OS, videocard driver and just try to play CS:GO. There is no software that can tell you have you input lag or not.
My pc is only one week old and I already installed windows twice. Because I have the lag I reinstalled it and only ran CSGO. It was much better (not perfect) but I started the game everytime after installing a program and it didnt change.

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:23
by Q83Ia7ta
sapphireflyer wrote:
Q83Ia7ta wrote:Try to install fresh OS, videocard driver and just try to play CS:GO. There is no software that can tell you have you input lag or not.
My pc is only one week old and I already installed windows twice. Because I have the lag I reinstalled it and only ran CSGO. It was much better (not perfect) but I started the game everytime after installing a program and it didnt change.
Did you set USB polling rate to 1000 or 500 Hz?
Image

You can check it by software. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNAlrwKaMuY

Try to set HPET off in bios if nothing helps.

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 22:33
by lexlazootin
Probably not the problem entirely but Zowie mice have some of the slowest mouse click response times.

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/9c/9c6cd578_ ... yszek.jpeg
http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8e/8e56a60d_ ... 150718.png

I really don't understand why people give Zowie so much credit for no reason. If you want a good mouse, just get a G series Logictech.

Oh, also is the frame rate high and the vsync off? because then I don't think there is much we can do without physically looking at your pc.

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 03:11
by sapphireflyer
Q83Ia7ta wrote:
sapphireflyer wrote:
Q83Ia7ta wrote:Try to install fresh OS, videocard driver and just try to play CS:GO. There is no software that can tell you have you input lag or not.
My pc is only one week old and I already installed windows twice. Because I have the lag I reinstalled it and only ran CSGO. It was much better (not perfect) but I started the game everytime after installing a program and it didnt change.
Did you set USB polling rate to 1000 or 500 Hz?
Image

You can check it by software. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNAlrwKaMuY

Try to set HPET off in bios if nothing helps.
Yes my polling rate is set to 1000hz.

lexlazootin wrote:Probably not the problem entirely but Zowie mice have some of the slowest mouse click response times.

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/9c/9c6cd578_ ... yszek.jpeg
http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8e/8e56a60d_ ... 150718.png

I really don't understand why people give Zowie so much credit for no reason. If you want a good mouse, just get a G series Logictech.

Oh, also is the frame rate high and the vsync off? because then I don't think there is much we can do without physically looking at your pc.
I like really simple mice. The Zowie mice are really casual looking and for my small hands its perfect. I would instantly buy a G series mouse but I just dont like the look and feel of the design. To futuristic for me.

I have really high frame rates and vsync off. The only reason I post this here is because pros or online friends tell me their game is really smooth with almost the same setup.

EDIT: also the Logitech G-Series is just to heavy for me. I think its a good mouse but perhaps not the perfect chioce for competetive FPS gaming.

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 14:05
by sharknice
Do you have raw input on in CS? What are your Windows mouse settings and are you using any driver specific mouse settings?

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 07:10
by sapphireflyer
sharknice wrote:Do you have raw input on in CS? What are your Windows mouse settings and are you using any driver specific mouse settings?
Yeah I have raw input on. But I tried it without already. Windows is set to 6/11. Zowie mice dont have drivers, they are plug and play ;)

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 12:31
by spacediver
I'm curious, what were you using before this display? And do you have a memory of playing CSGO with less perceived input lag?

Re: Weird input lag?

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 08:01
by sapphireflyer
spacediver wrote:I'm curious, what were you using before this display? And do you have a memory of playing CSGO with less perceived input lag?
I was on a standard 60hz 1080p 24" monitor. Yes! It was really good for some time.
But I noticed something weird. When I connect my old monitor, it sure feels weird because its 60hz but my mouse feels really responsive.
I am a noob when it comes to monitors but could it be something with 24 and 27 inches?