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new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 20:37
by fliperpl
hey guys
i just bought a new pc to have a good PC gaming for CSGO, because i was so pissed when my mouse feels like crap with stuttering at 90% of time

here is a full spec :
i5 6600K 4.5Ghz + SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425 v2
Msi RX470 Gaming X 4GB, HyperX Savage DDR4 2400mhz 8GB CL12
Goodram Iridium Pro 240gb, Asus Z170 PRO GAMING
Enthoo Pro M Titanium Green + 3x be quiet! SilentWings 3 + 2x Corsair 140mm RED
LG 34UC79G 21:9 UltraWide 144hz
Steelseries Rival 100, Propad INETKOXTV Large (cloth mousepad), a4tech b720
Audio-Technica ATH M30X + Fiio K1, Zalman ZM-MIC1 + A4tech G480
windows 10 last build

unfortunately, my CSGO at normal resolution (im talking about 1920x1080, 2560x1080, when GPU works at full load mostly time) works like total crap, when fps are 200-300 at 144hz or 120hz.

Sometimes i feel like i pay for nothing, because feels is same when i had i3 6100, hd7950 and acer 60hz tn crap monitor.........

Im forced to play 1024x768 or 1280x1024 to have at least close feel like it should be (yes, even at those resolution im experiencing huge stuttering sometimes and i cant aim properly because of that) my mouse sometimes feel so laggy

startup csgo parametrs : -novid -freq 144 -tickrate 128 -console +cl_forcepreload 1

latencymon is showing 5-40us at idle, up to 120us while gaming, mouse is set to 1000hz, my cpu is unparked, i tried to reinstall CSGO and reconfig it (cuz i had some random commands for "optimize" game)
i did use TCP Latency optimizer, no diffrence, set back to default
i am using last drivers for gpu, 16.12.2 and i updated my whole drivers by snappy driver installer
there is a diffrence in smoothness when i am using freesync, for better
overclock is stable, tested 12h with asus realbenchmark
i am not using any msi afterburner or rivaturners
i have optimized services by easy service optimizer

only thing that i am using is vibrancegui for colors in csgo
and also, when i am joing to DM server my fps's and mouse feeling is getting worse slowly time by time, when i am joining server everything is perfect for like 5-10mins, 280-300fps etc and then is just going down, drops even to 200fps
my temps are so fine, cpu is not reaching 65C. gpu is holding 55. Motherboard 45C

what i can do? Im feeling so pissed that i spend like 1500$ for close to nothing...

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 11:08
by LagBuster
What is your Windows power plan set to? Have you tried uncapping the fps?

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 05:15
by fliperpl
LagBuster wrote:What is your Windows power plan set to? Have you tried uncapping the fps?
power plan is high performance, i did.

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 08:16
by lexlazootin
Try disabling everything in the startup tab in taskmanager and reboot.

Have you tried swapping the mouse and/or making sure it's checked at 1000hz?

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 08:49
by FrayedSew
I have that monitor as well.

I can't use it at anything above 100hz right now and I have a feeling I know what you are talking about and why.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34uc79g.htm

Read the part @ "Impact of Refresh Rate" and it talks about an issue that apparently LG knows about and is working on a firmware fix. Which doesn't sound user updatable.

I've tried to talk to LG and they don't know anything.

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 12:13
by lexlazootin
That shouldn't be the issue if it's only stuttering you are worried about.

Have you tested for frameskipping? http://testufo.com/#test=frameskipping

Maybe try turning freesync off in the drvier/monitor.

It might be frame timings with AMD cards.

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 13:56
by stirner
FrayedSew wrote:I have that monitor as well.

I can't use it at anything above 100hz right now and I have a feeling I know what you are talking about and why.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34uc79g.htm

Read the part @ "Impact of Refresh Rate" and it talks about an issue that apparently LG knows about and is working on a firmware fix. Which doesn't sound user updatable.

I've tried to talk to LG and they don't know anything.
I didn't find an "Impact of Refresh Rate" entry in that article, but if the monitor doesn't work at the advertised refresh rate, that opens instant refund obligation.

@fliperpl: There is really nothing we can do from here. There is no reason why it should be stuttering, and that means it could be anything or nothing. From PSU, mouse, interfaces, internal hardware components, drivers, software and settings, to the monitor.

The best thing you can do is go through a process of elimination and change things such as settings and entire hardware components to see whether it makes a difference.

The first thing perhaps is to get a virginal system. Update your BIOS and reset it to default configuration. Reinstall Windows and CS:GO fresh, just "let the application decide" in your GPU's 3D settings. Do not mess with any settings, not launch parameters or anything (at native resolution it will use the "native" refresh rate set on your desktop). It's not like there's a magical setting that removes stutter. There are definitely ways to optimize how smooth it runs, but if those problems you are having are that severe, they cannot be fixed by some cvar.

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 15:16
by RealNC
stirner wrote:I didn't find an "Impact of Refresh Rate" entry in that article
It's here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/con ... h_freesync

But I don't know if it's actually relevant.

Re: new pc,monitor and everything, CSGO stuttering......

Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 15:38
by stirner
RealNC wrote:
stirner wrote:I didn't find an "Impact of Refresh Rate" entry in that article
It's here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/con ... h_freesync

But I don't know if it's actually relevant.
Thanks, ctrlf didn't yield anything.

Well, it is pretty shitty and I wouldn't want to keep that monitor, but it indeed does not sound relevant to the thread because the issue OP is describing does not really match that behaviour.

Still, among the components he could switch to check for the issue, the monitor is one of them. Also refresh rate.