Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

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Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by peixotao » 15 Apr 2022, 14:58

Ok I have read a lot about this monitor being the best in esports in the world. but is that it?? This monitor is just good for gaming??

My question is, and i dont find anyone talking about this, only RTINGS.com, what is the overall use of this monitor?? I mean i buy thius monitor to play, but i dont play 24hours a day, so.. if i need to use Office suite to edit a document, or if i need to create a video to youtube? Or even i i want to browse the net? can I do it with this monitor?

I am not a professional, gamer, not a photo and video editor.. what i want is try to aspire to be a pro gamer in the near future .. but also use this monitor for other tasks apart from gaming.

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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by Falkentyne » 16 Apr 2022, 16:24

It's a monitor. You can use ANY monitor for the purposes you mentioned. What are you expecting, a monitor to have psychadelic colors and ultraviolet radiation and make you blind in a week?
The colors aren't the best but that can be addressed by the OSD and a hardware calibrator for an ICC profile (if you own one, I know nothing about those). It's a TN panel so expect TN drawbacks you get from any TN.
An 8 bit (or even better, a 10 bit) IPS panel would probably look better overall for productivity and graphics work

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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by axaro1 » 17 Apr 2022, 03:55

peixotao wrote:
15 Apr 2022, 14:58
Ok I have read a lot about this monitor being the best in esports in the world. but is that it?? This monitor is just good for gaming??
Color accuracy is bad, shades of red/orange are completely out of target and I didn't manage to fix it with multiple ICC/ICM profiles and by modifying RGB values (I'm sure that I could have fixed it with a colorimeter but I don't have one).

Also, this monitor requires AMA High with Dyac to get the best experience out of it for gaming.

This ends up creating noticeable overshoot both with and without dyac when scrolling files (to me it is not noticeable during gaming), if you are fine having to reduce AMA to OFF before using it for productivity it is usable.

Viewing angles are decent, it appears to be less yellowish than other TNs I tested.

Don't get me wrong, it's an insane monitor for gaming with unmatched motion clarity but that's it, it doesn't excel at anything else.
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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by Bloods » 17 Apr 2022, 04:51

axaro1 wrote:
17 Apr 2022, 03:55
Don't get me wrong, it's an insane monitor for gaming with unmatched motion clarity but that's it, it doesn't excel at anything else.
How does it compare to the 252QF unstrobed? I know some players say it feels better than the 360hz ones but looking at motion blur photos, the higher refesh rates ones look better. The only "data" I can find is that while running the 2546k on High or Premium you get the Rise / Fall down to lower numbers, especially the dark than you do on 252QF even whilst on Extreme, although the bright transition faster on the IPS. The total response time is faster on the IPS and Input Lag / Responsiveness due to higher HZ is better as well.

The thing is that I have no idea how the Rise / Fall differences translates to actual "feeling" whilst gaming, if a motion blur photo could tell everything then everyone would be running DyAC, but most pros don't, at least not in CS:GO / Valorant.
Acer Nitro XV252QF (390HZ) VRB Off, Overdrive: Normal/Extreme) Max Brightness ON.
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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by axaro1 » 17 Apr 2022, 05:42

Bloods wrote:
17 Apr 2022, 04:51
How does it compare to the 252QF unstrobed?
The XV252QF beats the 2546K unstrobed, OD Normal is better than AMA High while having 0 artifacts.

When using Dyac Premium with AMA High the 2546K has better clarity than the XV252QF with VRB Extreme and OD Extreme.

I perform better with the Acer both when strobing or not, 390hz simply brute force motion clarity, both when strobing or not.

Other 360hz IPS are marginally better when you are not strobing (due to lower refresh rate compliance inside the 390hz window while using the same panel) but having the alternative to use strobing at 390hz compared to 240hz, while at a lower price, makes the Acer my top pick in 2022.
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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by peixotao » 20 Apr 2022, 11:22

Ok so based on your replies i assume this Zowie is not for me right now... I dont have a budget to have a dedicated gaming monitor and another for work related stuff...

So the alternatives i have would be a 1080p IPS 240hz 1ms monitor like these:

. Dell S2522HF (read it is good but lacks black frame insertion.) - 230
. Allienware AW2521HF - 260
. Asus VG259QM/VG279QM (read many good reviews including placed in best monitor list 2022 for RTINGS and other reviewers) - 313
. MSI MAG521RX (a competitor of the Asus...) - 323
. Lenovo Y25-25 (a mysterious low budget gaming monitor.. not much people talk about it. some owners hate him other love it. It had issues but a firmware update solved all issues apparently) - 200
. Other ?

Can you comment on these monitors and suggest me(remembering I play FPS games like Fortnite, Valorant and a bit of CSGO).

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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by kyube » 20 Apr 2022, 19:31

peixotao wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 11:22
Ok so based on your replies i assume this Zowie is not for me right now... I dont have a budget to have a dedicated gaming monitor and another for work related stuff...

So the alternatives i have would be a 1080p IPS 240hz 1ms monitor like these:

. Dell S2522HF (read it is good but lacks black frame insertion.) - 230
. Allienware AW2521HF - 260
. Asus VG259QM/VG279QM (read many good reviews including placed in best monitor list 2022 for RTINGS and other reviewers) - 313
. MSI MAG521RX (a competitor of the Asus...) - 323
. Lenovo Y25-25 (a mysterious low budget gaming monitor.. not much people talk about it. some owners hate him other love it. It had issues but a firmware update solved all issues apparently) - 200
. Other ?

Can you comment on these monitors and suggest me(remembering I play FPS games like Fortnite, Valorant and a bit of CSGO).
Since 1440p 240hz is somewhat seems to be out of your reach (and I find anything but the Omen X27 to be irrelevant when it comes to motion performance, it's quite clearly ahead of a ton of 1080p panels even) and 4k 240hz is not a thing yet, we'll be looking at 1080p. 240hz should be a must for any person wanting to go competitive/pro in gaming today, so we'll be looking at 1080p 240hz.
If you are looking for the best motion performance in today's market, it's between these monitors in the 23.x" - 27" category:

[ Keep in mind this is a subjective ordered list, I've not counted the OLED monitor and TV's as they're' UW, curved and too large for desk use (IMO, anyone who thinks I'm wrong can feel free to correct me, I'm just writing this from my memory from reading reviews/looking at UFO's) ]

1. XG2431 (BlurBusters Approved 2.0),
2. X25 (or x25f) [TN],
3. 24G2ZU/24G2ZE/24G2Z (IPS),
4. XG249CM (due to 270hz),
5. S2522HG,
6. MAG251RX,
7. VG279QM,
8. XG270(might even deserve higher than MAG due to strobing, but its 27" so lower PPI),
9. XV252QF(390hz),
10. AW2521H(360hz, due to GSYNC module),
11. VG259QM (better RT than +360hz panels iirc),
12. AW2521HF (better RT than +360hz panels iirc),
13. BenQ XL2546K

Why have I put the highest refresh monitors that low? Because +300hz panels are not ready yet when it comes to response times to deliver the best motion clarity, you do however get the benefits of a less pronounced stroboscopic effect and less input lag due to brute forcing refresh rate.
Any of the above mentioned monitors will perform amazing at their highest refresh rate, provided you can maintain 240fps in the games you plan on playing. You will not regret any purchase from the list I've provided. We're talking about the cream of the crop here.
All of these monitors have very good color performance and they should all satisfy your needs.
Depending on what size of monitors you prefer to use (~25" or 27"), you should buy accordingly.

If you only want to play on sample and hold displays (non-strobed / non BFI), from the list you've provided, go for the S2522HG

Otherwise (if not looking at your list), non-strobed, follow my list.
If you care about strobing, go for the XG2431, XG270, MAG251RX, XG249CM, XV252QF, XL2546K.

Why have I put the BenQ last? Because the color performance compared to competition is lacking and when not strobing, it's motion performance is clearly lacking.

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Re: Zowie XL2546K performance apart from gaming

Post by peixotao » 21 Apr 2022, 13:19

Out of Kyube list i shortlist my possible choices...

Dell S2522HG - 229
VG259QM ' 237
XL2546K - 331
Plus,
Omen X27 (1440p 240Hz TN) - 260

Regarding the Omen x27 I included here because i was offered this morning this one and perhaps i could use it.. take the benefit of the 1440p resolution 240hz and the TN panel for fast frame rates (like de Zowie). Also I do not know if my notebook would reach the 240hz ion the Omen panel...

Having this in mind which one of these should more appropriate for Fortnite competitive.

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