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Predictions on affordable OLED desktop displays?

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 15:34
by Ch0b0
It seems like once lifespan is sorted out and impulse-driving is implemented these displays will be absolutely perfect. Anyone want to make some predictions on how far out are we to seeing a sub $1k OLED desktop display (1080p-1440p)?

Re: Predictions on affordable OLED desktop displays?

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 15:56
by Chief Blur Buster
Ch0b0 wrote:It seems like once lifespan is sorted out and impulse-driving is implemented these displays will be absolutely perfect. Anyone want to make some predictions on how far out are we to seeing a sub $1k OLED desktop display (1080p-1440p)?
An affordable one, that has an impulse mode, priced similarly to a premium gaming monitor, is probably still at least five years down the road.

First ones are arriving now for TV market, then we will get the premium monitors designed for computer use, then it falls to high three figures, then finally to today prices of current 120hz/144hz displays. That long road will likely take at least five years.

If you are okay with paying one grand(ish), it could happen sooner.

Re: Predictions on affordable OLED desktop displays?

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 20:33
by Ch0b0
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
Ch0b0 wrote:It seems like once lifespan is sorted out and impulse-driving is implemented these displays will be absolutely perfect. Anyone want to make some predictions on how far out are we to seeing a sub $1k OLED desktop display (1080p-1440p)?
An affordable one, that has an impulse mode, priced similarly to a premium gaming monitor, is probably still at least five years down the road.

First ones are arriving now for TV market, then we will get the premium monitors designed for computer use, then it falls to high three figures, then finally to today prices of current 120hz/144hz displays. That long road will likely take at least five years.

If you are okay with paying one grand(ish), it could happen sooner.
Five years? That feels like like it will take forever, but it seems like an accurate prediction. It's too bad SED displays never even left the hangar, they seemed like the perfect replacement for CRT lovers such as myself.

Re: Predictions on affordable OLED desktop displays?

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 21:03
by Chief Blur Buster
Ch0b0 wrote:Five years? That feels like like it will take forever, but it seems like an accurate prediction. It's too bad SED displays never even left the hangar, they seemed like the perfect replacement for CRT lovers such as myself.
SED wasn't going to be the ultimate -- it was going to require pixel-based PWM, not too different from the noisy effect of plasma subfields or DLP temporal dithering. So it was alas, not, going to be zero-motion-blur like CRT. Motion would have been more similiar to a plasma.

Also, OLED can have motion blur. See Why Do Some OLEDs Have Motion Blur?. However, OLED can easily be impulse-driven, with short impulses. It will be a matter of getting sufficient brightness to shorten the persistence as much as possible, without dimming the picture too much.

Right now, strobe-backlight LCD's such as LightBoost have the best motion blur elimination of current practical non-CRT technologies. You probably have heard about it already; see Photos: 60Hz vs 120Hz vs lightBoost.

However, I believe OLED will be ultimate, however -- once the tech matures. Pixels are fast enough for low-persistence impulse-driving, once sufficient brightness is available.

Re: Predictions on affordable OLED desktop displays?

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 17:31
by Chief Blur Buster
BTW, GtG is not the cause of motion blur -- persistence is.
GtG = pixel transition, while persistence = pixel static/visibility (sample and hold)
Most 1ms and 2ms LCD's can have 16.7ms of motion blur, because of persistence (during 60Hz).

It's been long an old myth that just SED/OLED alone would produce the full CRT effect, when there's the persistence factor involved.

For those who wish to understand persistence better, view www.testufo.com/eyetracking on an LCD, then on a CRT (or LightBoost / ULMB / Turbo240 / BENQ Blur Reduction). Very different behaviors, and very educational.