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DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
(Had to do some cutting to prevent wall of texts, but keeping the "ping" quote thing)
Yes it's better to do that.
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
1.At least for my eyes, in that vid, the 120hz mode Dyac 2 Off OD 13 has the texts all blurry and coloured overshoot, then Premium OD 13 has some ghosting with vertical lines cutted off from such ghost
I just paused the video when the still image of the UFO was shown to compare if that helps
I don't see any overshoot personally, maybe it's just the quality of my phone that creates this.
In any case while playing I didn't see any particular problems and you can modify the overdrive anyway.
Then yes, I suppose the XG2431 will do better.
But I don't see how your BenQ is better in that regards, it's even worse on your example above, it doesn't even have strobing, right?
Anyway yes text is blurry, like on ALL monitors ( even OLED ) because 120hz is not enough, you need strobing at these refresh rate.
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
3. For the 60hz part , since 120hz seems to work slightly worse?, i thought "Maybe 60hz is even worse". Yet again i barely remember how a FPS like DUKE NUKEM 3D or DOOM (DOS) worked back then when i played em from GOG, STEAM, etc...You know, when turning around with the mouse to aim/directions. But i'm just using a 60/120hz monitor that's very old and most probably didn't noticed (until now, yet with other things like Adobe illustrator)
Sorry I don't really understand what you mean here, in any case at 120hz/60hz, if you don't want blur, a CRT screen / very old BenQs which have a single strobe or the current Viewsonic XG2431 is the best choice.
The XL2546X is not basically a monitor marketed for 60hz/120hz gaming, it's usable but not the best.
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
4.ViewSonic's flickering?...Now that's bad for the eyes.. However there's no info related to Eyecare on the XL2546X 's page..Should i be worried?
Yes, like i've said to you on Reddit (with an another name>Aquilae), strobing = flickering, some people aren't sensitive, some are sensitive to it and cannot managed to play with, anyway the more you go down in terms of refresh rate the more the perception of the flickering of the strobing is visible, all that i know is that the ONLY 1080p LCD that have good result at 60hz/120hz with less blur is the XG2431, that's all, there is no option if you only want the best of the best at 1080p and with a blur reduction.
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
Uses: NEW games like ALAN WAKE 2 (Calm), along DOOM ETERNAL (Frenetical action),etc, but of course not so AAA (More like indie platformers and other genres, along old as F DOS games like DUKE NUKEM 3D and similar for some day)
ALSO basic Adobe Photoshop/illustrator/premiere , then Paint Tool SAI 2, Clip Studio Paint V3
If it helps with the colouring part on a TN monitor, these 2 links are an example of my art, for colour references done in my TN monitor
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/51899150/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46847974/
(Yes, on my LG C3 OLED they look better, sure, but i don't want to use my TV as a monitor in productivity way... BURN IN RISK ON STATIC ELEMENTS...)
But...playing games like Alan Wake/Doom on a 1080p TN panel isn't a very bad idea ?
These games are made to be immersive and breathtaking, wouldn't it look better on your LG TV or on an IPS / higher resolution monitor?
Why still want a TN panel (which are the worst for color reproduction) for games like that ?
Anyway for some Retro Games, if you want the best experience without any blur > XG2431 with a 60hz/120hz custom resolution with "CRU" (Custom Resolution Utility, software.)
Wait...you work on Paintool/colors with a TN panel ?!
Either your TN has an IPS panel mixed with TN, or you have never seen an IPS panel, i am not saying this unkindly but color work should be avoided on a TN! You lack a lot of depth and precision in the colors ( my wife work on ClipStudio
also furry's xD ) and do that on a IPS with a Quantum Dots ( the Acer 1440p 270hz IPS QD XV272UX ) but...for FPS games and smoothness it is "garbage" she cannot work with a TN, she already tried and she can't, anyway a TN cannot reproduce beige, it's impossible, red is also impossible to shade, it's not true red.
Anyway there are a tons of IPS/VA that have bad color reproduction too and are just bland, generally 1440p/4K are better because they are truly "wide gammut"
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
Looking for a monitor that's equal or better than mine while trying to have the lesser of problems. TN preferably since , again, IPS and VA have their worse options for dark game/movie scenes/smearing (from my POV) and OLED has the burn-in risk, no matter how much stuff changed in 2024.
In fact VA shouldn't even exist, I used the best and one of the best 4K VAs recently (the M32UC) and it was bad monitor, not as sharp, very comfortable because very slightly curved, for games like VRChat or chill were excellent but...the clouding, smearing and ghosting as well as the visibility in dark areas was really horrible, impossible to play at high level at FPS games.
I've personally never appreciate IPS, i think i have tried pratically every well known IPS 1080p/1440p monitors during these 2/3 years and i've never managed to really like one, they are generally a copy/paste of another one with no real improvement and...i get headache very quickly on IPS, didn't know why specifically even if i have some "proof" about that, like, i didn't like how IPS LCD managed their backlight/brightness, on TN white for example are always more kind to the eyes.
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
and i think i already mentioned my specs but here they are again:
ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS
32GB Crucial BALLISTIX DDR4 3200mhz or something (NO XMP, don't insist!)
RYZEN 5800X3D (NO OC)
GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super GAMING OC
CORSAIR RM1200W SHIFT
Don't worry, you obviously have your reasons not to use XMP, plus you're in DDR4, overclock and compatibility can quickly become boring
DV2FOX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 16:26
I've never played APEX LEGENDS and i doubt i do that, so i don't know much about that red thing ya say, sorry ^^;
As for the ViewSonic, i've read some people that their monitor died after months or maximum 1 year... I'm not ready to be buying a new monitor every X time... It's the search for "One monitor that once you buy it and set it up, knowing it DOESN'T HAVE COIL WHINE and it's of your likes, it should remain there until it dies or has awful issues on screen, without the need to return it and do a Russlan roulette of buy/return until the perfect unit comes"
Picky fox that i am, yeah, "but better be safe than sorry"
Apex Legends is an FPS Battle Royal.
In any case, the "ring" is an area that closes and you must escape from it, you must not go inside at the risk of taking damage, you go to a specific point on the map to find opponents, the "ring" does damage but when you are in it, everything becomes "red" to warn you that you are in the ring and when unfortunately you find yourself having to fight in the ring, at times you can not seeing your opponent because you have color clipping on the red, so it is like too saturated.
About the ViewSonic XG2431, you shouldn't worry like that, if you have a problem, after all you have the warranty, can't you just test or buy on Amazon?
The "XG2431" and the "XL2546X" both have no coil whine, you can be reassured, the worst I had in relation to that frankly was the "XL2566K" the 360hz model of Zowie, I had some more than 4 and all had the same coil whine horrible very high coil whine at 360hz.
to recap :
XG2431 :
Pros :
- Best performing monitor in terms of strobing at 60hz/120hz, it is the BEST for these refresh rate ONLY if you use strobing and the comparison between this one with strobing and your old BenQ is not possible simply because it beats your BenQ in motion blur with strobing, that's a reality.
- IPS panel, means that some shade would be 100% better than your BenQ which have a TN panel (good for furry's work )
- Good Overdrive management
- Good ghosting performance for a IPS panel
- Compatible with Blur Busters Utility
Cons :
- Can have "bad" backlight bleed
- It is not a wide gammut IPS panel so colors would be better than your TN but not as other IPS which are wide gammut
- Clearly not the best performing in terms of ghosting without using strobing
- 60hz/120hz strobe can be only possible on PC with CRU
- Strobing can be seen, mostly at 60hz, i personally cannot use it at 60hz when strobing is activated
- The control menu is not the best, I don't like the controls, it's not a joystick, it's boring
XL2546X :
Pros :
- One of the best 240hz monitor in terms of input lag/responsiveness
- DyAc2 ( strobing ) perform very well at max native refresh rate ( 240hz )
- Can be used at lower refresh rate without having a tons of overshoot, unlike some IPS/VA panel or even some TN
- Very good black equaliser performance, which is mainly useful in FPS multiplayer games
Cons :
- 60hz strobe is not good at all, 120hz strobe is really meh but "usable"
- TN panel, so not perfect in terms of colors
- the remote control provided is not very precise but at least there is one
Anyway, finally, I really advise you to find out, also on YouTube and try yourself ( Amazon ? ), if you don't decide, you'll never decide, besides, do you really need to stay in 1080p?
We all have personal preferences and the thing that gets in the way here is the difference in use, it's difficult to recommend something else when I don't use monitors below 240hz, I don't play at " beautiful" solo games on my monitors, always on my OLED TV, because I don't like the grainy coating of the monitors, it destroys the sharpness that we would like to have on games or certain content (I'm team glossy)
In any case I hope that you will succeed in finding what you want, I would like someone else to help you because I am not close enough to TN except those that I have tested, generally for me TN = garbage apart from Zowie's because otherwise it's just bad monitors without arguments but I know that some rare monitors which are no longer marketed are good, like perhaps your monitor which managed to satisfy you.
Anyway i don't like VA panel like you, like, at all and also IPS but i know there are very rare IPS that can be good ( like the ViewSonic XG2431 or also Asus PG27AQN which are a 1440p 360hz with ULMB2, a very good strobing solution )
You're a picky fox, don't worry, here you'll find crazy people like me, look, after everything I've tried so far I still wasn't satisfied lol
But in two month i will test the MSI MPG271QRX ( 1440p 27 inch QD-OLED 360hz ) it will be my endgame, if i didn't like this one, the XL2546X will be my last choice personally.