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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 14 Sep 2017, 09:38

grizmo2 wrote:Is there 240Hz monitor with ULMB to 240hz or will it be?
For 240Hz strobing, you'll have to use BenQ/Zowie DyAc brand rather than NVIDIA's ULMB brand.

Currently, the latest-greatest monitor capable of 240Hz strobing is the Zowie XL2546. That said, remember that strobe crosstalk can be a bigger issue (if you're sensitive to it) the closer to the monitor's maximum refresh rate.

That said, what BenQ/Zowie lets yoiu do, is to have a choice of multiple refresh rates (strobing at a lower refresh rate with less strobe crosstalk, versus strobing at a higher refresh rate with more strobe crosstalk).

* BenQ/Zowie XL2540 - 240Hz / FreeSync / MBR -- strobes up to 240Hz
* BenQ/Zowie XL2546 - 240Hz / FreeSync / DyAc -- strobes up to 240 Hz
* Acer XB252Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
* Acer XB272Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
* ASUS ROG PG258Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by grizmo2 » 14 Sep 2017, 12:16

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
grizmo2 wrote:Is there 240Hz monitor with ULMB to 240hz or will it be?
For 240Hz strobing, you'll have to use BenQ/Zowie DyAc brand rather than NVIDIA's ULMB brand.

Currently, the latest-greatest monitor capable of 240Hz strobing is the Zowie XL2546. That said, remember that strobe crosstalk can be a bigger issue (if you're sensitive to it) the closer to the monitor's maximum refresh rate.

That said, what BenQ/Zowie lets yoiu do, is to have a choice of multiple refresh rates (strobing at a lower refresh rate with less strobe crosstalk, versus strobing at a higher refresh rate with more strobe crosstalk).

* BenQ/Zowie XL2540 - 240Hz / FreeSync / MBR -- strobes up to 240Hz
* BenQ/Zowie XL2546 - 240Hz / FreeSync / DyAc -- strobes up to 240 Hz
* Acer XB252Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
* Acer XB272Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
* ASUS ROG PG258Q - 240Hz / G-SYNC / ULMB -- strobes up to 144 Hz
Zowies Benq strobes at 240hz without any issues? :)

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 14 Sep 2017, 12:53

grizmo2 wrote:Zowies Benq strobes at 240hz without any issues? :)
It depends on what you mean by "issues"

Since it's not "zero compromise", does "issue" mean "with acceptable compromises" or "with dealbreaker compromises" -- and this can be like the IPS-versus-TN debate, a personal preference of pros-versus-cons. Some people like the 240Hz strobe mode, and some people prefer to use a lower refresh rate for reduced strobe crosstalk.

All of the 240Hz monitors currently do relatively good job of 144Hz strobing with fewer compromises than strobing on a 144Hz monitors.
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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by grizmo2 » 14 Sep 2017, 13:15

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
grizmo2 wrote:Zowies Benq strobes at 240hz without any issues? :)
It depends on what you mean by "issues"

Since it's not "zero compromise", does "issue" mean "with acceptable compromises" or "with dealbreaker compromises" -- and this can be like the IPS-versus-TN debate, a personal preference of pros-versus-cons. Some people like the 240Hz strobe mode, and some people prefer to use a lower refresh rate for reduced strobe crosstalk.

All of the 240Hz monitors currently do relatively good job of 144Hz strobing with fewer compromises than strobing on a 144Hz monitors.
I mean it just works fine, because its interesting if 240Hz monitors can use ulmb to 200/240

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by ericl » 14 Sep 2017, 13:47

Holy, the BenQ XL 2546 has strobbing up to 240hz ? I would have picked that up instead of the Asus PG258q

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by grizmo2 » 14 Sep 2017, 13:49

Thats why im askin :)

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by grizmo2 » 14 Sep 2017, 15:54

grizmo2 wrote:
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
grizmo2 wrote:Zowies Benq strobes at 240hz without any issues? :)
It depends on what you mean by "issues"

Since it's not "zero compromise", does "issue" mean "with acceptable compromises" or "with dealbreaker compromises" -- and this can be like the IPS-versus-TN debate, a personal preference of pros-versus-cons. Some people like the 240Hz strobe mode, and some people prefer to use a lower refresh rate for reduced strobe crosstalk.

All of the 240Hz monitors currently do relatively good job of 144Hz strobing with fewer compromises than strobing on a 144Hz monitors.
I mean it just works fine, because its interesting if 240Hz monitors can use ulmb to 200/240
If I will use benq and it will be something like 240hz + 180 scrob or just 180hz scrob? I know its hard to underesntad :P

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by open » 14 Sep 2017, 16:26

ericl wrote:Holy, the BenQ XL 2546 has strobbing up to 240hz ? I would have picked that up instead of the Asus PG258q
That can be a good option if you can always maintain over 240fps. I've tried playing on 240hz vsync off gsync off and there is still a noticeable stutter with 240hz when fps drops below 240fps. If benq made a gsync screen I would probably have bought that but ever since i played on my dads bright ass DLP tv I love bright screens with low response time and the pg258q is the brightest by far. There was just something about that DLP. It's been a while now but it felt like it had no motion blur at all.

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Re: 240Hz vs 120Hz ULMB for FPS games

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 14 Sep 2017, 16:36

Many DLP projectors have undocumented / poorly-documented support 120Hz, we tested one that successfully did 120Hz:

https://www.blurbusters.com/gigantic-12 ... projector/
https://www.blurbusters.com/benq-w7000- ... z-at-720p/
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