Desync / Input Lag / Output lag - Journey to Eliminate Latency

[Jadzira]

hey you can test out something a “proper” windows installation i suggest you update literally all of your drivers and then inject the updated drivers into a win11 23h2 iso so windows wont use their original drivers you can use a lot of tools to do that( microwin is easiest) and make sure your nic has no affinity in interrupt afinity tool lmao on my current machine is pined by default on core 0 which make me stutter:D give it a try and after u reinstall windows since u probably would try microwin u have to reinstall store or u dont wanna use microwin the other methods are way consuming, and just dont do any tweaks and try what i said

Hi,

Over the years, I have installed Windows multiple times after formatting. Drivers have been installed in various ways. Currently, I use NVCleanInstall to disable telemetry and install only the old control panel. I checked and my NIC does not have affinity set. It's all default.

[drosku]

try to experiment with ur ssd no mask aswell and make sure ur msi util isnt puting anything other than ur nvmw on high(if i use the driver from the mobo it gets put on high and if i use the latest driver from realtek its undefined this is some sort of anomaly), yes you can use nvclean the closest thing that i got to true 1:1 feel its just a normal windows install but every one of ur driver has to be updated from the start (gpu,nic,hell even chipset if u consider u need them) i play a lot of fps games at a high level im always searching to get the most, i suggest just give it a try inject the latest drivers for anything u have in ur pc into a new iso (i can help) update windows, do the basic stuff in the windows settings basic nvidia/amd gpu settings and you should be good to go.


my game feels almost perfect rn but my machine isnt that goos lmao i can still play at a high level


the reason i say do a new windows install with NEWEST injected drivers its because maybe there is some sort of conflict inside windows with updating drivers/windows updates i may be wrong but give it a try i will provide benchmarks soon if someone wants them especially my 0.1% lows are way better I used ddu and nvcleanstall and they not compare in terms of fps latency feeling with correct driver by microsoft

[JimCarry]

try to experiment with ur ssd no mask aswell and make sure ur msi util isnt puting anything other than ur nvmw on high(if i use the driver from the mobo it gets put on high and if i use the latest driver from realtek its undefined this is some sort of anomaly), yes you can use nvclean the closest thing that i got to true 1:1 feel its just a normal windows install but every one of ur driver has to be updated from the start (gpu,nic,hell even chipset if u consider u need them) i play a lot of fps games at a high level im always searching to get the most, i suggest just give it a try inject the latest drivers for anything u have in ur pc into a new iso (i can help) update windows, do the basic stuff in the windows settings basic nvidia/amd gpu settings and you should be good to go.


my game feels almost perfect rn but my machine isnt that goos lmao i can still play at a high level


the reason i say do a new windows install with NEWEST injected drivers its because maybe there is some sort of conflict inside windows with updating drivers/windows updates i may be wrong but give it a try i will provide benchmarks soon if someone wants them especially my 0.1% lows are way better I used ddu and nvcleanstall and they not compare in terms of fps latency feeling with correct driver by microsoft

Hi i would love to see the benchmarks before and after,basically your "tweak" is fresh new install of windows and then can you explain the next part is it something to change i dont get it ? also i think i have latest realtek nic driver and it puts it on high,should i change it to undefined?

[drosku]

hey so im just explaining that the best feeling,frames,delay i had was with a “fresh windows install”

my drivers are all over the place and its up to windows to choose them( if i install windows 10 my windows chooses 2017 driver for my nic and if i choose win 11 it chooses the mobo driver which is normal)

now the thing is ik it just sounds stupid and just delusional but even if you use ddu and registry etc and install the newest driver its not the same as if you INJECTED the NEWEST/BEST driver and dont touch your drivers after

about the priorities and masks, you dont want to give a component from your pc priority all the time or just a mask on certain core (some good builds that are just plug and play have everything like this,no nic pinned to cpu x,y, no random msi mode, you can leave nvme to high since its the norm but you can try no priority/affinity)

you want all of your components all to work at the same”speed” dont put anything on high/on core 2/3 etc

I want people who have some time to test and tell me about their exp i will provide benchmarks soon

HOW TO
update ALL of your drivers even chipset if you think you need them
inject your current drivers into your windows iso(i used 23h2)
Microwin is the easiest way to do this its automated there are some guides but they are tedious
After you booted into windows just update windows(if you use microwin control panel might break and you wont have store but you can reinstall it lol check out github/this problem wont appear if you do it yourself)

ONLY THINGS TO DO!!!
-basic windows things like transparency,storage sense off etc you all know them(dont disable gamebar just turn it off via regedit) or not its pretty much placebo lol
-device manager/network adapter/ just uncheck the power saving checkbox
-use the power plan of your liking
-IMPORTANT!!!!!
get msi util v3(put everything on undefined except nvme i put it on undefined aswell but this is what works for me you can test)
DO not use msi mode for something that wont support it(no brainer but worth mentioned)
get interrupt afinity policy
go through EVERYTHING and just delete mask if something has a mask(affinity/pinned to a certain core/group of cores)
thats it!

[JimCarry]

hey so im just explaining that the best feeling,frames,delay i had was with a “fresh windows install”

my drivers are all over the place and its up to windows to choose them( if i install windows 10 my windows chooses 2017 driver for my nic and if i choose win 11 it chooses the mobo driver which is normal)

now the thing is ik it just sounds stupid and just delusional but even if you use ddu and registry etc and install the newest driver its not the same as if you INJECTED the NEWEST/BEST driver and dont touch your drivers after

about the priorities and masks, you dont want to give a component from your pc priority all the time or just a mask on certain core (some good builds that are just plug and play have everything like this,no nic pinned to cpu x,y, no random msi mode, you can leave nvme to high since its the norm but you can try no priority/affinity)

you want all of your components all to work at the same”speed” dont put anything on high/on core 2/3 etc

I want people who have some time to test and tell me about their exp i will provide benchmarks soon

HOW TO
update ALL of your drivers even chipset if you think you need them
inject your current drivers into your windows iso(i used 23h2)
Microwin is the easiest way to do this its automated there are some guides but they are tedious
After you booted into windows just update windows(if you use microwin control panel might break and you wont have store but you can reinstall it lol check out github/this problem wont appear if you do it yourself)

ONLY THINGS TO DO!!!
-basic windows things like transparency,storage sense off etc you all know them(dont disable gamebar just turn it off via regedit) or not its pretty much placebo lol
-device manager/network adapter/ just uncheck the power saving checkbox
-use the power plan of your liking
-IMPORTANT!!!!!
get msi util v3(put everything on undefined except nvme i put it on undefined aswell but this is what works for me you can test)
DO not use msi mode for something that wont support it(no brainer but worth mentioned)
get interrupt afinity policy
go through EVERYTHING and just delete mask if something has a mask(affinity/pinned to a certain core/group of cores)
thats it!

so the part with injecting the drivers i will skip i am very lazy,but i change everything in msi to undefined,delete every mask,and also change device policy to default in gointeruptpolicy,is all good?

[drosku]

yup try this configuration,tell me your experience!

if you are lazy microwin its just 2 buttons to press!
when u are free give it a try

[JimCarry]

yup try this configuration,tell me your experience!

if you are lazy microwin its just 2 buttons to press!
when u are free give it a try

i can find a youtuber showin the undefined stuff, gives more fps then high,many time ago,but when you install fresh drivers, net driver and nvme are always on high priority,i did fps benchmakrs before making everying undedfined and then i change it to undefined all restart pc,and there was no change in fps.maybe i will try the driver stuff someday.

[Jadzira]

Setting interurupt priority to undefinied does not solve the issue. Remember this thread is not about boosting FPS.

[MontyTheAverage]

Like many here. I have tried everything possible so far that I can do to fix this desync/input lag. I travel with a good gaming laptop.

And would like to add that THIS PROBLEM EXISTS EVERYWHERE. I have tried in many different countries such as US(home country), UK, Netherlands, Indonesia, Japan etc. that have all electrical and internet connection. It has been same issues and they come about same way.

So only theory left is that either the gaming laptop/peripherals are corrupted forever after connecting it in my home country first or that it is something related to the body theory. Idk how to make sense of all this logically. And yes I already tried many different configuration of PCs and laptops already. All had same issues. Only thing I haven't tried yet is buying completely new setup of everything at a new location.

[JimCarry]

Setting interurupt priority to undefinied does not solve the issue. Remember this thread is not about boosting FPS.

yes but i can show at least 34 people telling to set gpu to high priority,this is just one example if you know who this is ? https://x.com/ThourCS2/status/1710618510609494132 ,so his is giving a personal tip to set gpu to high,but i think at least in my case its best undifened,but in high i have more fps in the benchmark map,yet still i put it on undefined(default).