Heavy character movement (not input lag)

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Sirito
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Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by Sirito » 17 Jun 2022, 08:25

I have a strange problem and I believe it is not input lag, simply my character in Valorant moves heavily like the gravity is pulling me harder than it should, jumping also makes me float a little longer.
Why I believe it is not input lag is because all my inputs are registered correctly at the correct time, and I can flick enemies with my mouse too. Currently I'm immortal 1 which is considered high elo in the game but the game isn't enjoyable this way, I changed my playstyle to match this heavy movement so I stay back site and use my gamesense skill, because if I tried to move I will be heavy and the enemy will react on me before I even see him.
Does anyone face something like this? what is this problem called? what may be the reasons causing it? Thank you.

PC Specs:
Motherboard: Asrock B560M Pro4 (Bios Version 2.20)
Processor: Intel Core i5-10400F (2.9 GHz / 4.3 GHz) (Max Temp 55)
GPU: GTX 1060 6 GB Zotac OC (Max Temp 75C)
Monitor: AOC 24G2 23.8 IPS 144hz (Overdirve set to Strong) (Freesync set to off)
RAM: x2 HyperX Fury 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 (Slot 2 and 4)
SSD 1: KINGSTONE SA2000 500 GB (M.2) (Windows Setup here)
SSD 2: PLEXTOR PX-128S3C 120 GB (SATA)
HDD: Samsung 7200 RPM 1TB
Power Supply: Cougar VTE 500W
Mouse: Logitech G305
Keyboard: HyperX Alloy Origins Core
Last edited by Sirito on 20 Jun 2022, 18:59, edited 2 times in total.

tinkiy4333
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Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by tinkiy4333 » 17 Jun 2022, 15:49

if your character is moving normally in the local server, or if you unplugged the ethernet cable from the computer on the local server and see improvements, then the problem is with the internet or connection quality. I don’t know if it’s possible to play valorant on a local server without an ethernet cable, but in csgo you can see

Sirito
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Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by Sirito » 17 Jun 2022, 16:00

tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 15:49
if your character is moving normally in the local server, or if you unplugged the ethernet cable from the computer on the local server and see improvements, then the problem is with the internet or connection quality. I don’t know if it’s possible to play valorant on a local server without an ethernet cable, but in csgo you can see
It is not possible in Valorant, I tried in CSGO and found it the same heavy movement local and online but I'm unfamiliar to csgo movement so it is maybe this heavy and I don't know.
I also don't remember being too heavy like this in Valorant so that's why I'm sure there's a problem, I play on +200 fps 144hz monitor overdrive set to strong, I tried so many things and I can't even get a placebo that my movement is fixed.

tinkiy4333
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Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by tinkiy4333 » 17 Jun 2022, 16:33

Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:00
tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 15:49
if your character is moving normally in the local server, or if you unplugged the ethernet cable from the computer on the local server and see improvements, then the problem is with the internet or connection quality. I don’t know if it’s possible to play valorant on a local server without an ethernet cable, but in csgo you can see
It is not possible in Valorant, I tried in CSGO and found it the same heavy movement local and online but I'm unfamiliar to csgo movement so it is maybe this heavy and I don't know.
I also don't remember being too heavy like this in Valorant so that's why I'm sure there's a problem, I play on +200 fps 144hz monitor overdrive set to strong, I tried so many things and I can't even get a placebo that my movement is fixed.
in cs go when i unplug my ethernet cable my game becomes very responsive and fast. the mouse always stops where I want. I'm sure it's not placebo. but I can't find a fix for this, I'm searching and hoping

Sirito
Posts: 55
Joined: 17 Jun 2022, 06:48

Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by Sirito » 17 Jun 2022, 16:41

tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:33
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:00
tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 15:49
if your character is moving normally in the local server, or if you unplugged the ethernet cable from the computer on the local server and see improvements, then the problem is with the internet or connection quality. I don’t know if it’s possible to play valorant on a local server without an ethernet cable, but in csgo you can see
It is not possible in Valorant, I tried in CSGO and found it the same heavy movement local and online but I'm unfamiliar to csgo movement so it is maybe this heavy and I don't know.
I also don't remember being too heavy like this in Valorant so that's why I'm sure there's a problem, I play on +200 fps 144hz monitor overdrive set to strong, I tried so many things and I can't even get a placebo that my movement is fixed.
in cs go when i unplug my ethernet cable my game becomes very responsive and fast. the mouse always stops where I want. I'm sure it's not placebo. but I can't find a fix for this, I'm searching and hoping
Acutally that's better situation than mine, atleast you know where's the problem, I'm really tired of searching and reading and I still can't figure out what is the problem because my mouse is perfectly fine like 0 latency I can flick where I want but all my problem is in the movement, moving my character is like steering a boat.
I thought that might be keyboard input lag but I binded my mouse to W A S D and I have the same issue moving with my mouse, so I really don't know what is that!

tinkiy4333
Posts: 12
Joined: 04 Apr 2022, 07:01

Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by tinkiy4333 » 17 Jun 2022, 16:46

Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:41
tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:33
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:00
tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 15:49
if your character is moving normally in the local server, or if you unplugged the ethernet cable from the computer on the local server and see improvements, then the problem is with the internet or connection quality. I don’t know if it’s possible to play valorant on a local server without an ethernet cable, but in csgo you can see
It is not possible in Valorant, I tried in CSGO and found it the same heavy movement local and online but I'm unfamiliar to csgo movement so it is maybe this heavy and I don't know.
I also don't remember being too heavy like this in Valorant so that's why I'm sure there's a problem, I play on +200 fps 144hz monitor overdrive set to strong, I tried so many things and I can't even get a placebo that my movement is fixed.
in cs go when i unplug my ethernet cable my game becomes very responsive and fast. the mouse always stops where I want. I'm sure it's not placebo. but I can't find a fix for this, I'm searching and hoping
Acutally that's better situation than mine, atleast you know where's the problem, I'm really tired of searching and reading and I still can't figure out what is the problem because my mouse is perfectly fine like 0 latency I can flick where I want but all my problem is in the movement, moving my character is like steering a boat.
I thought that might be keyboard input lag but I binded my mouse to W A S D and I have the same issue moving with my mouse, so I really don't know what is that!
try connecting your keyboard to usb 2.0 or stay on usb 3.0 and turn off xhci hand off in bios

Sirito
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Joined: 17 Jun 2022, 06:48

Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by Sirito » 17 Jun 2022, 16:49

tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:46
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:41
tinkiy4333 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:33
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 16:00


It is not possible in Valorant, I tried in CSGO and found it the same heavy movement local and online but I'm unfamiliar to csgo movement so it is maybe this heavy and I don't know.
I also don't remember being too heavy like this in Valorant so that's why I'm sure there's a problem, I play on +200 fps 144hz monitor overdrive set to strong, I tried so many things and I can't even get a placebo that my movement is fixed.
in cs go when i unplug my ethernet cable my game becomes very responsive and fast. the mouse always stops where I want. I'm sure it's not placebo. but I can't find a fix for this, I'm searching and hoping
Acutally that's better situation than mine, atleast you know where's the problem, I'm really tired of searching and reading and I still can't figure out what is the problem because my mouse is perfectly fine like 0 latency I can flick where I want but all my problem is in the movement, moving my character is like steering a boat.
I thought that might be keyboard input lag but I binded my mouse to W A S D and I have the same issue moving with my mouse, so I really don't know what is that!
try connecting your keyboard to usb 2.0 or stay on usb 3.0 and turn off xhci hand off in bios
it is already on 2.0, and xhci is default off in my bios and tried 3.0.
I really believe it's not a keyboard issue because when I press A D continuosly it registers it precicely no info is lost.

kokkatc
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Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by kokkatc » 20 Jun 2022, 17:40

Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 08:25
I have a strange problem and I believe it is not input lag, simply my character in Valorant moves heavily like the gravity is pulling me harder than it should, jumping also makes me float a little longer.
Why I believe it is not input lag is because all my inputs are registered correctly at the correct time, and I can flick enemies with my mouse too. Currently I'm immortal 1 which is considered high elo in the game but the game isn't enjoyable this way, I changed my playstyle to match this heavy movement so I stay back site and use my gamesense skill, because if I tried to move I will be heavy and the enemy will react on me before I even see him.
Does anyone face something like this? what is this problem called? what may be the reasons causing it? Thank you.

PC Specs:
Motherboard: Asrock B560M Pro4 (Bios Version 2.20)
Processor: Intel Core i5-10400F (2.9 GHz / 4.3 GHz) (Max Temp 55)
GPU: GTX 1060 6 GB Zotac OC (Max Temp 75C)
Monitor: AOC 24G2 23.8 IPS 144hz (Overdirve set to Strong) (Freesync set to off)
RAM: x2 HyperX Fury 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 (Slot 2 and 4)
SSD 1: KINGSTONE SA2000 500 GB (M.2) (Windows Setup here)
SSD 2: PLEXTOR PX-128S3C 120 GB (SATA)
HDD: Samsung 7200 RPM 1TB
Power Supply: Cougar VTE 500W
Mouse: Logitech G305
Keyboard: HyperX Alloy Origins Core
Try these things:

Bios: Disable EIST, Speedstep, thermal monitor, C-states. Any and all power saving features in your BIOS.

XMP: In my experience, heavy character movement is often connected to memory. Whether your memory OC isn't stable or not compatible w/ your board or possibly memory training is failing giving you undesirable timings/setings, etc. Do a test run w/ XMP disabled and see if you still experience the same feeling. If you don't, may want to find a compatible kit for your board or look at into fixing the timings. I'd also experiment by disabling turbo and any OC's you may have and testing. An unstable OC can also cause this.

Windows: Enable Ultimate Performance Power Plan: Disable usb select suspend and pci power savings in the plan advanced options
Use timer resolution (Google for download link), set to .5ms and leave it running while you game. ISLC can also be used.

Chipset Drivers: Make sure your chipset drivers are the latest and installed. You can get them here for your board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M%2 ... p#Download
Set a restore point before you install your drivers just in case the chipset drivers happen to make your issue worse, then you can revert back.

Game: Of course, remember to disable fullscreen optimizations by finding your game's .exe, right click for properties, go to compatibility, click on disable fullscreen optimizations, save, close.

Sirito
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Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by Sirito » 20 Jun 2022, 17:52

kokkatc wrote:
20 Jun 2022, 17:40
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 08:25
I have a strange problem and I believe it is not input lag, simply my character in Valorant moves heavily like the gravity is pulling me harder than it should, jumping also makes me float a little longer.
Why I believe it is not input lag is because all my inputs are registered correctly at the correct time, and I can flick enemies with my mouse too. Currently I'm immortal 1 which is considered high elo in the game but the game isn't enjoyable this way, I changed my playstyle to match this heavy movement so I stay back site and use my gamesense skill, because if I tried to move I will be heavy and the enemy will react on me before I even see him.
Does anyone face something like this? what is this problem called? what may be the reasons causing it? Thank you.

PC Specs:
Motherboard: Asrock B560M Pro4 (Bios Version 2.20)
Processor: Intel Core i5-10400F (2.9 GHz / 4.3 GHz) (Max Temp 55)
GPU: GTX 1060 6 GB Zotac OC (Max Temp 75C)
Monitor: AOC 24G2 23.8 IPS 144hz (Overdirve set to Strong) (Freesync set to off)
RAM: x2 HyperX Fury 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 (Slot 2 and 4)
SSD 1: KINGSTONE SA2000 500 GB (M.2) (Windows Setup here)
SSD 2: PLEXTOR PX-128S3C 120 GB (SATA)
HDD: Samsung 7200 RPM 1TB
Power Supply: Cougar VTE 500W
Mouse: Logitech G305
Keyboard: HyperX Alloy Origins Core
Try these things:

Bios: Disable EIST, Speedstep, thermal monitor, C-states. Any and all power saving features in your BIOS.

XMP: In my experience, heavy character movement is often connected to memory. Whether your memory OC isn't stable or not compatible w/ your board or possibly memory training is failing giving you undesirable timings/setings, etc. Do a test run w/ XMP disabled and see if you still experience the same feeling. If you don't, may want to find a compatible kit for your board or look at into fixing the timings. I'd also experiment by disabling turbo and any OC's you may have and testing. An unstable OC can also cause this.

Windows: Enable Ultimate Performance Power Plan: Disable usb select suspend and pci power savings in the plan advanced options
Use timer resolution (Google for download link), set to .5ms and leave it running while you game. ISLC can also be used.

Chipset Drivers: Make sure your chipset drivers are the latest and installed. You can get them here for your board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M%2 ... p#Download
Set a restore point before you install your drivers just in case the chipset drivers happen to make your issue worse, then you can revert back.

Game: Of course, remember to disable fullscreen optimizations by finding your game's .exe, right click for properties, go to compatibility, click on disable fullscreen optimizations, save, close.
Ty for detailed reply,

Bios:
I already disabled these settings.

XMP:
My ram was running at XMP 3200MHZ with auto timing (I think it was 15 17 17 36 69) .
But I read that maybe this is affected by ram timing so I made my ram run at 2133MHZ with auto timing(it is now 15 15 15 35 373) and didn't notice any difference and till now it is running on 2133MHZ no XMP

Windows:
Ultimate performance already enabled.
Usb power saving disabled.
Using intelligent standby list and timer is set to 0.5 and also latency mon values are very good during gaming.

Game:
Fullscreen optimization already disabled.

I tried a lot really a lot, I think the only thing left is the manual ram timing tuning but I tried once and my pc didn't boot up until I reset CMOS.

kokkatc
Posts: 108
Joined: 23 Mar 2017, 13:49

Re: Heavy character movement (not input lag)

Post by kokkatc » 21 Jun 2022, 00:30

Sirito wrote:
20 Jun 2022, 17:52
kokkatc wrote:
20 Jun 2022, 17:40
Sirito wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 08:25
I have a strange problem and I believe it is not input lag, simply my character in Valorant moves heavily like the gravity is pulling me harder than it should, jumping also makes me float a little longer.
Why I believe it is not input lag is because all my inputs are registered correctly at the correct time, and I can flick enemies with my mouse too. Currently I'm immortal 1 which is considered high elo in the game but the game isn't enjoyable this way, I changed my playstyle to match this heavy movement so I stay back site and use my gamesense skill, because if I tried to move I will be heavy and the enemy will react on me before I even see him.
Does anyone face something like this? what is this problem called? what may be the reasons causing it? Thank you.

PC Specs:
Motherboard: Asrock B560M Pro4 (Bios Version 2.20)
Processor: Intel Core i5-10400F (2.9 GHz / 4.3 GHz) (Max Temp 55)
GPU: GTX 1060 6 GB Zotac OC (Max Temp 75C)
Monitor: AOC 24G2 23.8 IPS 144hz (Overdirve set to Strong) (Freesync set to off)
RAM: x2 HyperX Fury 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 (Slot 2 and 4)
SSD 1: KINGSTONE SA2000 500 GB (M.2) (Windows Setup here)
SSD 2: PLEXTOR PX-128S3C 120 GB (SATA)
HDD: Samsung 7200 RPM 1TB
Power Supply: Cougar VTE 500W
Mouse: Logitech G305
Keyboard: HyperX Alloy Origins Core
Try these things:

Bios: Disable EIST, Speedstep, thermal monitor, C-states. Any and all power saving features in your BIOS.

XMP: In my experience, heavy character movement is often connected to memory. Whether your memory OC isn't stable or not compatible w/ your board or possibly memory training is failing giving you undesirable timings/setings, etc. Do a test run w/ XMP disabled and see if you still experience the same feeling. If you don't, may want to find a compatible kit for your board or look at into fixing the timings. I'd also experiment by disabling turbo and any OC's you may have and testing. An unstable OC can also cause this.

Windows: Enable Ultimate Performance Power Plan: Disable usb select suspend and pci power savings in the plan advanced options
Use timer resolution (Google for download link), set to .5ms and leave it running while you game. ISLC can also be used.

Chipset Drivers: Make sure your chipset drivers are the latest and installed. You can get them here for your board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M%2 ... p#Download
Set a restore point before you install your drivers just in case the chipset drivers happen to make your issue worse, then you can revert back.

Game: Of course, remember to disable fullscreen optimizations by finding your game's .exe, right click for properties, go to compatibility, click on disable fullscreen optimizations, save, close.
Ty for detailed reply,

Bios:
I already disabled these settings.

XMP:
My ram was running at XMP 3200MHZ with auto timing (I think it was 15 17 17 36 69) .
But I read that maybe this is affected by ram timing so I made my ram run at 2133MHZ with auto timing(it is now 15 15 15 35 373) and didn't notice any difference and till now it is running on 2133MHZ no XMP

Windows:
Ultimate performance already enabled.
Usb power saving disabled.
Using intelligent standby list and timer is set to 0.5 and also latency mon values are very good during gaming.

Game:
Fullscreen optimization already disabled.

I tried a lot really a lot, I think the only thing left is the manual ram timing tuning but I tried once and my pc didn't boot up until I reset CMOS.
In your bios, make sure your memory is training properly. I'd disable fast boot in bios so your memory trains at every boot. This is quick and easy to do and test. You can download a program called timing configurator by ASRock for z690 from here https://www.overclock.net/threads/offic ... k.1794799/. This program will show all your timings in the windows gui. You want to take note of your rtls/iols and make sure they're training properly. The lower numbers are usually identical. The higher numbers shouldn't be more than two numbers apart (69 /71 for example). If they are more than 2 numbers apart then your memory won't be stable. You can also test running your ram in dimm slots 1 & 3 to see if there's any difference.

Some other things to try. Download DDU (display driver uninstaller). Boot into safe mode and run this and remove/clean your gpu drivers. Reboot into normal mode and reinstall gpu drivers.

If you're up for the exercise, consider reinstalling your os. Make sure your Ethernet is unplugged so windows update doesn't install driver's automatically. I've had several instances where windows update installs garbage drivers creating a lot of problems. After your new install and with your Ethernet unplugged, disable windows update from installing any drivers at all. You need to set searchorderconfig to a value of 0 in your registry, then reboot. This will prevent windows update from auto installing drivers for you. Here's a link for the registry key https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/windo ... sy.418033/. After you set this, reboot and plug your Ethernet cable back in. Update windows first, then install all of your chipset drivers and reboot after each one. Then configure all other essential settings. Use the audio and nic drivers that windows uses by default (these are already signed and tested, no need to update further unless there are problems). This is how I go about every os install to ensure I know what drivers are being used and to prevent drivers from being installed without me knowing. Also download gpuz and make sure your gpu is running in x16 4.0 or 3.0 mode, not 1 or 1.1. I once didn't seat my GPU all the way down into the slot where it was only registering 1.1.

I know this shit is frustrating as all hell. Start with a good baseline and go from there.

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