input lag on newer pcs

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woodyfly
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input lag on newer pcs

Post by woodyfly » 17 Jun 2022, 21:41

my 4690k has no input lag. any modern build of mine whether its 5800x or 12700k or whatever has more input lag. whyyy

Eonds
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by Eonds » 18 Jun 2022, 01:19

woodyfly wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 21:41
my 4690k has no input lag. any modern build of mine whether its 5800x or 12700k or whatever has more input lag. whyyy
4690k is lower latency than both of those cpus

Slender
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by Slender » 18 Jun 2022, 07:33

woodyfly wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 21:41
my 4690k has no input lag. any modern build of mine whether its 5800x or 12700k or whatever has more input lag. whyyy
there may be hundreds of reasons for this, new systems and bios were designed with default settings to focus on energy saving, previously there were much fewer settings.
I myself currently own the i7-12700kf and it feels MUCH worse than the i7-9700kf.
In my plans to try 5800x
In general, there is a problem on the ASUS mobo that a2 a4 slots give strange mouse behavior.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments ... erm=tphxa9
https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus- ... m.1797422/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/ ... mer_issue/

TN_fun
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by TN_fun » 18 Jun 2022, 13:08

Hey guys, how about recording game play. I'm not talking about input lag (but it's related stuff), so does the gameplay footage from the game look the same to you, from different PC builds?
For example, I see people, and their games, gameplay, on the record (this is a record from the game, not the screen, i.e. shadowplay, obs, etc.) looks completely different. For me, it's like the speed of everything in the game is 1.1 or 1.15.
For example this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/TristanKilla2020 , there are others. Moreover, people not only with PCs have such gameplay, there are also consoles, for example, PS5. To me, their games look like they're faster, everything in the game, all the physics, etc. Have you noticed this in yourself or someone else?

For example, I noticed something similar in myself, in singleplayer games, but it lasted literally seconds. Everything in the game literally accelerated and looked like the videos from the people above.

Sirito
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by Sirito » 18 Jun 2022, 14:26

TN_fun wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 13:08
Hey guys, how about recording game play. I'm not talking about input lag (but it's related stuff), so does the gameplay footage from the game look the same to you, from different PC builds?
For example, I see people, and their games, gameplay, on the record (this is a record from the game, not the screen, i.e. shadowplay, obs, etc.) looks completely different. For me, it's like the speed of everything in the game is 1.1 or 1.15.
For example this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/TristanKilla2020 , there are others. Moreover, people not only with PCs have such gameplay, there are also consoles, for example, PS5. To me, their games look like they're faster, everything in the game, all the physics, etc. Have you noticed this in yourself or someone else?

For example, I noticed something similar in myself, in singleplayer games, but it lasted literally seconds. Everything in the game literally accelerated and looked like the videos from the people above.
Same thing here, I watch a lot of Valorant twitch streams and also youtube videos, they'r all faster than my game, looks like I play x0.9 or x0.8 speed
I searched on this topic and people said it was ram timing and speed, I made a lot of changes in bios and nothing changed the speed for me, I'm in a huge disadvantage...

TN_fun
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by TN_fun » 18 Jun 2022, 15:11

Sirito wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 14:26
TN_fun wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 13:08
Hey guys, how about recording game play. I'm not talking about input lag (but it's related stuff), so does the gameplay footage from the game look the same to you, from different PC builds?
For example, I see people, and their games, gameplay, on the record (this is a record from the game, not the screen, i.e. shadowplay, obs, etc.) looks completely different. For me, it's like the speed of everything in the game is 1.1 or 1.15.
For example this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/TristanKilla2020 , there are others. Moreover, people not only with PCs have such gameplay, there are also consoles, for example, PS5. To me, their games look like they're faster, everything in the game, all the physics, etc. Have you noticed this in yourself or someone else?

For example, I noticed something similar in myself, in singleplayer games, but it lasted literally seconds. Everything in the game literally accelerated and looked like the videos from the people above.
Same thing here, I watch a lot of Valorant twitch streams and also youtube videos, they'r all faster than my game, looks like I play x0.9 or x0.8 speed
I searched on this topic and people said it was ram timing and speed, I made a lot of changes in bios and nothing changed the speed for me, I'm in a huge disadvantage...
Yes, it's game speed, but it's not settings or RAM speed. You can even watch recordings of games from PS5 and they look different for different people.

Sirito
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by Sirito » 18 Jun 2022, 15:41

TN_fun wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 15:11
Sirito wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 14:26
TN_fun wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 13:08
Hey guys, how about recording game play. I'm not talking about input lag (but it's related stuff), so does the gameplay footage from the game look the same to you, from different PC builds?
For example, I see people, and their games, gameplay, on the record (this is a record from the game, not the screen, i.e. shadowplay, obs, etc.) looks completely different. For me, it's like the speed of everything in the game is 1.1 or 1.15.
For example this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/TristanKilla2020 , there are others. Moreover, people not only with PCs have such gameplay, there are also consoles, for example, PS5. To me, their games look like they're faster, everything in the game, all the physics, etc. Have you noticed this in yourself or someone else?

For example, I noticed something similar in myself, in singleplayer games, but it lasted literally seconds. Everything in the game literally accelerated and looked like the videos from the people above.
Same thing here, I watch a lot of Valorant twitch streams and also youtube videos, they'r all faster than my game, looks like I play x0.9 or x0.8 speed
I searched on this topic and people said it was ram timing and speed, I made a lot of changes in bios and nothing changed the speed for me, I'm in a huge disadvantage...
Yes, it's game speed, but it's not settings or RAM speed. You can even watch recordings of games from PS5 and they look different for different people.
Do you have any idea what could be the problem? it is not input lag I'm sure

Shade7
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by Shade7 » 18 Jun 2022, 20:46

Slender wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 07:33
woodyfly wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 21:41
my 4690k has no input lag. any modern build of mine whether its 5800x or 12700k or whatever has more input lag. whyyy
there may be hundreds of reasons for this, new systems and bios were designed with default settings to focus on energy saving, previously there were much fewer settings.
I myself currently own the i7-12700kf and it feels MUCH worse than the i7-9700kf.
In my plans to try 5800x
In general, there is a problem on the ASUS mobo that a2 a4 slots give strange mouse behavior.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments ... erm=tphxa9
https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus- ... m.1797422/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/ ... mer_issue/
This is the first time I'm am hearing about the A2 A4 slot thing - can you elaborate. I have an Asus mobo.

assombrosso
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by assombrosso » 19 Jun 2022, 01:30

Yes indeed my sons. I have a lot of experience when it comes to noticing a laggy gameplay or non laggy after trying plenty of windows reinstalls and other things. I mainly base it of weapons spray in csgo, if you have good eyes, you will notice how fast/smooth the bullets register when they get shoot by the weapon into a wall/enemy vs when they are shoot on a laggy machine. This can be seen vividly on 60fps twitch streams, 30fps etc. you don’t need to show 240fps vids to see it.
My current theory is that this lag can be due to either electricity related stuff or the computer being bad, as in, it gets affected by the electric More than other pc. Some components get affected more by it than other components.
My friends pc has abit lag but no where near my lag, I have tested it in the same location as mine.
The best thing to do, is to try differ components and buy the one which gives less to no lag.
I think this helps.

assombrosso
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Re: input lag on newer pcs

Post by assombrosso » 19 Jun 2022, 01:33

Let me also state that, I found a reddit post where one users complained of input lag symptoms, heavy mouse after buying a new powerful pc. He said he couldn’t frag anymore, his skill went down badly and he had to use his old low fps pc back, and all of those issues disappeared. Input lag in weak low fps pc was actually much less than the newer higher fps pc.

Here you go guys: new hope
https://www.overclock.net/threads/new-p ... s.1643293/

He said he tried his old pc ram into the new pc and everything worked well

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