240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by Slender » 23 Feb 2024, 14:09

Cyanide_ wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 10:04
A small update: I've seen some INSANE improvement for 1-2 days when some tech guys came to fix our elevator & it's motor, VFD and w/e. Gameplay is still better than it was before that, even after 2-3 weeks, and I'm feeling slightly better too (less fatigued, less sleepy, more vigor etc).

I'm living on last but one floor, right below the tech floor for elevator, maybe it is the culprit of the issue. I'll ask our engineer and staff of our condo if they can fully fix it and maybe it'll help with EMI/RFI issue I'm experiencing (for fking two years ffs).

It's worth adding that "tech floor" is making some buzz or hum, so loud so I can literally hear that in my apartment, and elevator doors are sometimes faulty, not closing/opening correctly, everyone in house is complaining about that. So I have a legit reason to tell them to fix all that :D
haha, i have same situation like you.

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by Cyanide_ » 23 Feb 2024, 14:23

Slender wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 14:09
Cyanide_ wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 10:04
A small update: I've seen some INSANE improvement for 1-2 days when some tech guys came to fix our elevator & it's motor, VFD and w/e. Gameplay is still better than it was before that, even after 2-3 weeks, and I'm feeling slightly better too (less fatigued, less sleepy, more vigor etc).

I'm living on last but one floor, right below the tech floor for elevator, maybe it is the culprit of the issue. I'll ask our engineer and staff of our condo if they can fully fix it and maybe it'll help with EMI/RFI issue I'm experiencing (for fking two years ffs).

It's worth adding that "tech floor" is making some buzz or hum, so loud so I can literally hear that in my apartment, and elevator doors are sometimes faulty, not closing/opening correctly, everyone in house is complaining about that. So I have a legit reason to tell them to fix all that :D
haha, i have same situation like you.
what exact situation?

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by dervu » 10 Mar 2024, 11:48

Cyanide_ wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 14:23
Slender wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 14:09
Cyanide_ wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 10:04
A small update: I've seen some INSANE improvement for 1-2 days when some tech guys came to fix our elevator & it's motor, VFD and w/e. Gameplay is still better than it was before that, even after 2-3 weeks, and I'm feeling slightly better too (less fatigued, less sleepy, more vigor etc).

I'm living on last but one floor, right below the tech floor for elevator, maybe it is the culprit of the issue. I'll ask our engineer and staff of our condo if they can fully fix it and maybe it'll help with EMI/RFI issue I'm experiencing (for fking two years ffs).

It's worth adding that "tech floor" is making some buzz or hum, so loud so I can literally hear that in my apartment, and elevator doors are sometimes faulty, not closing/opening correctly, everyone in house is complaining about that. So I have a legit reason to tell them to fix all that :D
haha, i have same situation like you.
what exact situation?
Still holding up after this VFD/elevator thing?
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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by Spammy » 17 Mar 2024, 06:59

(UK) The solution for me was using a different wall socket in my bedroom (not the other socket on the same outlet) if that makes sense.

This has taken months if not years to figure out as changing room layout / convenience for cabling etc I was changing sockets for where my surge protector was plugged into for years.

This is how I knew the difference between my pc feeling right and not as it was constantly changing.

Both of the wall sockets I'm using are on the outside of the house but they must be on different circuits or one is faulty in some way (I'm not a specialist whatsoever)

But I believe so far this has fixed the issue, I have another power supply on the way also as this was the only component it was coming down to being the cause, but I don't think it was it because was fine for 2 weeks not so long ago. I just knew it can't have been a component anymore as I had almost changed them all.

I hope it stays like this / was the root problem and is the solution to you guys too, I'll update again if the problem just reverts back to feeling off again if it changes.

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by pcenthusiast92 » 20 Mar 2024, 16:52

Cyanide_ wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 07:44
Hey guys, I guess it's the right forum to seek help for my issue, which is: gameplay is not smooth especially when moving mouse around, textures are flickering (?), overall image on screen is choppy and jiterry, it feels like 60 or 80 hz instead of 240 hz mode. Audio is cracking/popping sometimes too, in menu, in youtube when adjusting volume. I'm trying my best to describe it. It has started 6-8 months ago, and is still present.

Games tested are - MW19, Battlefield 4/1/5, Rainbow Six Siege, I have also tried few singleplayer games: Doom, Metro Exodus, Stalker 1-2, some RPGs. It's all the same. The only game that was surprisingly smooth was Crash Bandicoot trilogy lol and I've played with gamepad.

My specs:

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CPU: Ryzen 5600x Cooler: Dark Rock 4 (non-PRO)
MB: MSI B550 Tomahawk RAM: 2x16 3200Mhz Crucial Ballistix (BL2K16G32C16U4B)
GPU: Palit 3070 Gamerock OC SSD: Kingston 500Gb NVME + Crucial 500Gb SSD
HDD: WD10EZEX 1Tb PSU: Corsair RM750x Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh RGB Black
Soundcard: Asus Xonar SE Headset: HyperX Cloud II Monitor: Acer XV253QX
Mouse: G403 Keyboard: HyperX Alloy FPS Pro
Temps are completely fine for me (CPU 50-60C, GPU 60-70, drives are 35-45, Mobo ~40C and so on), monitored it multiple times in the latest HWInfo. Frametimes, fps, 1% 0,1% all was good when I measured it with MSI Afterburner, haven't seen any big dips. LatencyMon gave me some weird results though, like 2k-6k latency for Nvidia driver.

I've tried alot of things:

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- reinstalling Windows 10/11, maybe 7-8 times already
- installing old, new drivers (GPU, Audio, LAN, chipset)
- opening PC, cleaning the dust, reseating every single cable multiple times
- changing thermal paste (temps went lower)
- latest(beta) BIOS, old BIOS, PBO on/off, CPPC on/off, secure boot/fTPM on/off, XMP on/off/custom overclock, and more BIOS tweaks
- reseting monitor settings, trying GSync (Adaptive sync in my case) on and off
- capping fps at 200-237-240-245, leaving it uncapped, low latency on/ultra, Vsync on/off in many games many times
- taking out hard drives, SSD's, fans, audio card (I use Xonar SE, integrated is always off) 
- remaking my rig on MoBo box outside of case, with no fans, only one drive with fresh Windows, only 1 stick of RAM
Maybe more things I forgot to mention. Literally ripped my rig inside out numerous times and it's still not smooth. Which makes me think it's some hardware incompability, or something with RAM/MoBo/monitor/idk what else.

Feel free to ask me anything, to do any test, measurement, any action just to fix this annoying issue.

I'm grateful in advance for any help.
Hello how are you, did you was able to figure out, your problem?
a second question: As you mention that your monitor of 240 hertz feels like 60-80 hz, I'm guessing you have a lot of motion blur right?
For example if you are playing an mmorpg and a person is passing by around you, can you see the person's character name, while is in movement?

I'm asking this as to me is very hard, I only can see npc or real players when they are static, I can see their names without being blurry.

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by whatcanido » 21 Mar 2024, 14:46

-i feel its about Impact of network performance on client fps send speed receive rate
-You can try different router prefer "sqm"
-This may have an effect, think of it like the rate command in CS. netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=experimental(max) / or disabled(min)
-another thing netsh int teredo set state type=enterpriseclient

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Re: 240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

Post by LasseF » 23 Mar 2024, 21:41

Try putting your monitor at ultra-hd 60hz on desktop and set 240hz ingame instead. Make sure scaling is set to scale on display fullscreen and override ingame settings. Check your monitor hardware settings so it is not using 1-1 scaling. Activate all Windows game settings and don't mess with timers. Activate core isolation (my fps improved in OW2).

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