240 hz feels like 60 hz, high fps, choppy image, not smooth

[WolFy19]

I dont know much about AMD, but u can try, it still windows, i dont think it can harm your computer.

[loccomacco]

Hey, I have AMD CPU not Intel. Thanks for suggestion. Anyway it's kinda fixed now, I don't know what exactly helped but what I've experienced was:

1) several outages in my area, probably PoCo guys have "fixed" it involuntarily (my main suggestion so far lol)
2) tried blurbusters gsync 101 guide (235 fps lock, vsync on, gsync on, latency off (iirc), reflex on (when possible) etc)
3) updated my mouse firmware (I have Razer Viper 8k fyi, 1.02 was a mess for me, I rolled back to 1.01 version, there is a guide on yt how to do it, then I updated to new v1.03 & it's good now)
4) updated BIOS, tweaked things like CPPC/preferred cores, OC'd RAM to 16-19-16-16 3600mhz, played with PBO a bit (left it on Enabled anyway)
5) updated AMD Chipset drivers to new 5.xx.xx version instead of 4.xx, Nvidia driver to 531.29 version
6) reinstalled w11 instead of w10, installed latest updates, I've also seen guys saying newest insider(?) build has major improvements for input lag, so it should be out soon as well

Maybe something else, but it's too minor to recall. I think it was either electricity/PoCo issue, or software issue, who knows.

BTW I still have some weird, barely perceivable issue, which is - when I'm moving mouse fast enough, whole game (e.g. Battlefield V, R6 Siege) becomes crispy, like it's 60 fps, BUT !! if I stop flicking, aiming moving mouse etc. game is butter smooth again.
Whole gameplay is smooth, all animations, mouse movement, hitreg, everything is fluid now. No stuters, no extra frametimes, no lag/spikes, no fps drops, just for the record.
Only this dumb issue aka "not smooth when moving mouse fast" still annoys me. Don't know what's causing it. And it's most visible in FPS games, in games like Civ or ARPG's it's tolerable. Mouse is at 1000 hz btw, changing to 500 doesn't help much.
Am I missing something still? Or I'm just losing my mind with all these lags lol

What you mean by saying your main suggestion? Did something new change youd mentioned recently around your house? Like changing cables or transformers or something like that by PoCo? Or new building near you?
Btw the way you talk, from my experience, I can bet your problems will come back soon or later, I've had the same experience for just a month or two, but I hope yours remain.

[Cyanide_]

Hey, I have AMD CPU not Intel. Thanks for suggestion. Anyway it's kinda fixed now, I don't know what exactly helped but what I've experienced was:

1) several outages in my area, probably PoCo guys have "fixed" it involuntarily (my main suggestion so far lol)
2) tried blurbusters gsync 101 guide (235 fps lock, vsync on, gsync on, latency off (iirc), reflex on (when possible) etc)
3) updated my mouse firmware (I have Razer Viper 8k fyi, 1.02 was a mess for me, I rolled back to 1.01 version, there is a guide on yt how to do it, then I updated to new v1.03 & it's good now)
4) updated BIOS, tweaked things like CPPC/preferred cores, OC'd RAM to 16-19-16-16 3600mhz, played with PBO a bit (left it on Enabled anyway)
5) updated AMD Chipset drivers to new 5.xx.xx version instead of 4.xx, Nvidia driver to 531.29 version
6) reinstalled w11 instead of w10, installed latest updates, I've also seen guys saying newest insider(?) build has major improvements for input lag, so it should be out soon as well

Maybe something else, but it's too minor to recall. I think it was either electricity/PoCo issue, or software issue, who knows.

BTW I still have some weird, barely perceivable issue, which is - when I'm moving mouse fast enough, whole game (e.g. Battlefield V, R6 Siege) becomes crispy, like it's 60 fps, BUT !! if I stop flicking, aiming moving mouse etc. game is butter smooth again.
Whole gameplay is smooth, all animations, mouse movement, hitreg, everything is fluid now. No stuters, no extra frametimes, no lag/spikes, no fps drops, just for the record.
Only this dumb issue aka "not smooth when moving mouse fast" still annoys me. Don't know what's causing it. And it's most visible in FPS games, in games like Civ or ARPG's it's tolerable. Mouse is at 1000 hz btw, changing to 500 doesn't help much.
Am I missing something still? Or I'm just losing my mind with all these lags lol

What you mean by saying your main suggestion? Did something new change youd mentioned recently around your house? Like changing cables or transformers or something like that by PoCo? Or new building near you?
Btw the way you talk, from my experience, I can bet your problems will come back soon or later, I've had the same experience for just a month or two, but I hope yours remain.

Yeah my main suggestion is "dirty electricity" which poco guys have fixed somehow after the outages. Maybe changed wiring, equipment, anything else. I'm living in Eastern EU so it's possible. But that's offtopic at least for this forum branch.
Had "dirty electricity" issue in previous house, moved here, completely other area far away from old house, and it was still not good, something was off. Right now though it's pretty much acceptable. Hope it stays that way.

[loccomacco]

Hey, I have AMD CPU not Intel. Thanks for suggestion. Anyway it's kinda fixed now, I don't know what exactly helped but what I've experienced was:

1) several outages in my area, probably PoCo guys have "fixed" it involuntarily (my main suggestion so far lol)
2) tried blurbusters gsync 101 guide (235 fps lock, vsync on, gsync on, latency off (iirc), reflex on (when possible) etc)
3) updated my mouse firmware (I have Razer Viper 8k fyi, 1.02 was a mess for me, I rolled back to 1.01 version, there is a guide on yt how to do it, then I updated to new v1.03 & it's good now)
4) updated BIOS, tweaked things like CPPC/preferred cores, OC'd RAM to 16-19-16-16 3600mhz, played with PBO a bit (left it on Enabled anyway)
5) updated AMD Chipset drivers to new 5.xx.xx version instead of 4.xx, Nvidia driver to 531.29 version
6) reinstalled w11 instead of w10, installed latest updates, I've also seen guys saying newest insider(?) build has major improvements for input lag, so it should be out soon as well

Maybe something else, but it's too minor to recall. I think it was either electricity/PoCo issue, or software issue, who knows.

BTW I still have some weird, barely perceivable issue, which is - when I'm moving mouse fast enough, whole game (e.g. Battlefield V, R6 Siege) becomes crispy, like it's 60 fps, BUT !! if I stop flicking, aiming moving mouse etc. game is butter smooth again.
Whole gameplay is smooth, all animations, mouse movement, hitreg, everything is fluid now. No stuters, no extra frametimes, no lag/spikes, no fps drops, just for the record.
Only this dumb issue aka "not smooth when moving mouse fast" still annoys me. Don't know what's causing it. And it's most visible in FPS games, in games like Civ or ARPG's it's tolerable. Mouse is at 1000 hz btw, changing to 500 doesn't help much.
Am I missing something still? Or I'm just losing my mind with all these lags lol

What you mean by saying your main suggestion? Did something new change youd mentioned recently around your house? Like changing cables or transformers or something like that by PoCo? Or new building near you?
Btw the way you talk, from my experience, I can bet your problems will come back soon or later, I've had the same experience for just a month or two, but I hope yours remain.

Yeah my main suggestion is "dirty electricity" which poco guys have fixed somehow after the outages. Maybe changed wiring, equipment, anything else. I'm living in Eastern EU so it's possible. But that's offtopic at least for this forum branch.
Had "dirty electricity" issue in previous house, moved here, completely other area far away from old house, and it was still not good, something was off. Right now though it's pretty much acceptable. Hope it stays that way.

Another proof of dirty electricity existence

[Cyanide_]

Hey, I have AMD CPU not Intel. Thanks for suggestion. Anyway it's kinda fixed now, I don't know what exactly helped but what I've experienced was:

1) several outages in my area, probably PoCo guys have "fixed" it involuntarily (my main suggestion so far lol)
2) tried blurbusters gsync 101 guide (235 fps lock, vsync on, gsync on, latency off (iirc), reflex on (when possible) etc)
3) updated my mouse firmware (I have Razer Viper 8k fyi, 1.02 was a mess for me, I rolled back to 1.01 version, there is a guide on yt how to do it, then I updated to new v1.03 & it's good now)
4) updated BIOS, tweaked things like CPPC/preferred cores, OC'd RAM to 16-19-16-16 3600mhz, played with PBO a bit (left it on Enabled anyway)
5) updated AMD Chipset drivers to new 5.xx.xx version instead of 4.xx, Nvidia driver to 531.29 version
6) reinstalled w11 instead of w10, installed latest updates, I've also seen guys saying newest insider(?) build has major improvements for input lag, so it should be out soon as well

Maybe something else, but it's too minor to recall. I think it was either electricity/PoCo issue, or software issue, who knows.

BTW I still have some weird, barely perceivable issue, which is - when I'm moving mouse fast enough, whole game (e.g. Battlefield V, R6 Siege) becomes crispy, like it's 60 fps, BUT !! if I stop flicking, aiming moving mouse etc. game is butter smooth again.
Whole gameplay is smooth, all animations, mouse movement, hitreg, everything is fluid now. No stuters, no extra frametimes, no lag/spikes, no fps drops, just for the record.
Only this dumb issue aka "not smooth when moving mouse fast" still annoys me. Don't know what's causing it. And it's most visible in FPS games, in games like Civ or ARPG's it's tolerable. Mouse is at 1000 hz btw, changing to 500 doesn't help much.
Am I missing something still? Or I'm just losing my mind with all these lags lol

What you mean by saying your main suggestion? Did something new change youd mentioned recently around your house? Like changing cables or transformers or something like that by PoCo? Or new building near you?
Btw the way you talk, from my experience, I can bet your problems will come back soon or later, I've had the same experience for just a month or two, but I hope yours remain.

Yeah my main suggestion is "dirty electricity" which poco guys have fixed somehow after the outages. Maybe changed wiring, equipment, anything else. I'm living in Eastern EU so it's possible. But that's offtopic at least for this forum branch.
Had "dirty electricity" issue in previous house, moved here, completely other area far away from old house, and it was still not good, something was off. Right now though it's pretty much acceptable. Hope it stays that way.

Another proof of dirty electricity existence

It's complete off topic, but yeah I've stumbled upon this issue twice it looks like.
My friend who lived 0.5km away from me had this issue as well. I took my whole rig to him & tested everything for hours. Exact same crap.
But in my parents' house it's perfectly fine and always have been. As I've discovered later, their house is connected to some hospital/police station so they have "cleanest" electricity possible. And recent outages haven't affected them in any way. Guess some objects and houses are connected to these "good" "dedicated" power grids and are perfect for gaming.

BTW can mods close this topic or move it to electricity forum? I'm grateful for your help guys, now issue is gone it looks like, it's been a month.

[loccomacco]

What you mean by saying your main suggestion? Did something new change youd mentioned recently around your house? Like changing cables or transformers or something like that by PoCo? Or new building near you?
Btw the way you talk, from my experience, I can bet your problems will come back soon or later, I've had the same experience for just a month or two, but I hope yours remain.

Yeah my main suggestion is "dirty electricity" which poco guys have fixed somehow after the outages. Maybe changed wiring, equipment, anything else. I'm living in Eastern EU so it's possible. But that's offtopic at least for this forum branch.
Had "dirty electricity" issue in previous house, moved here, completely other area far away from old house, and it was still not good, something was off. Right now though it's pretty much acceptable. Hope it stays that way.

Another proof of dirty electricity existence

It's complete off topic, but yeah I've stumbled upon this issue twice it looks like.
My friend who lived 0.5km away from me had this issue as well. I took my whole rig to him & tested everything for hours. Exact same crap.
But in my parents' house it's perfectly fine and always have been. As I've discovered later, their house is connected to some hospital/police station so they have "cleanest" electricity possible. And recent outages haven't affected them in any way. Guess some objects and houses are connected to these "good" "dedicated" power grids and are perfect for gaming.

BTW can mods close this topic or move it to electricity forum? I'm grateful for your help guys, now issue is gone it looks like, it's been a month.

Oh my Lord, you should've mentioned it before, I mean about hospital/police station and about not affected by power outage. Your case should move to EMI topic, to prove EMI and dirty electricity by PoCo.
Btw your case thanks to you, proved something in my mind too

[Cyanide_]

Yeah my main suggestion is "dirty electricity" which poco guys have fixed somehow after the outages. Maybe changed wiring, equipment, anything else. I'm living in Eastern EU so it's possible. But that's offtopic at least for this forum branch.
Had "dirty electricity" issue in previous house, moved here, completely other area far away from old house, and it was still not good, something was off. Right now though it's pretty much acceptable. Hope it stays that way.

Another proof of dirty electricity existence

It's complete off topic, but yeah I've stumbled upon this issue twice it looks like.
My friend who lived 0.5km away from me had this issue as well. I took my whole rig to him & tested everything for hours. Exact same crap.
But in my parents' house it's perfectly fine and always have been. As I've discovered later, their house is connected to some hospital/police station so they have "cleanest" electricity possible. And recent outages haven't affected them in any way. Guess some objects and houses are connected to these "good" "dedicated" power grids and are perfect for gaming.

BTW can mods close this topic or move it to electricity forum? I'm grateful for your help guys, now issue is gone it looks like, it's been a month.

Oh my Lord, you should've mentioned it before, I mean about hospital/police station and about not affected by power outage. Your case should move to EMI topic, to prove EMI and dirty electricity by PoCo.
Btw your case thanks to you, proved something in my mind too

Your welcome. Learnt it hard way haha. Hope it helps somebody. But yeah some places are "naturally" good if not perfect for gaming because electricity there is "pure".
Did some excessive testing in many games monitoring everything and realized I had some 1% 0.1% drops especially in heavy games, e.g. in Skyrim with fps unlocked or in Dead Island 1, old games, it's perfectly fine, smooth as butter, when in BFV it's stuttery laggy mess. Indeed it feels kinda like "dirty electricity" lag but that's not it.
Edit: double checked, things were normal, like in BFV having low 1% 0.1% in MP is kinda expected, in Skyrim lets say or in R6 Siege it never drops below 150-180. In other words 1% 0.1% lows are okay, in heavy games they are as low as expected, my bad.
U guys were right, it must be something with RAM or MoBo or whatever, I was planning an upgrade anyway. Thank you guys for all the help and insights you provided.

[Otter]

Hey! Ive had the literal exact same issues for around 8 months now. Much like you ive tried sooo many things to fix it to no avail. I cant get a exact solution through all of the replies.
Could you maybe give me the top 1-5 things that helped you the most in the smoothness aspect?
Thank you in advance

[Cyanide_]

Hey! Ive had the literal exact same issues for around 8 months now. Much like you ive tried sooo many things to fix it to no avail. I cant get a exact solution through all of the replies.
Could you maybe give me the top 1-5 things that helped you the most in the smoothness aspect?
Thank you in advance

Hey, try taking your rig to other place for testing, or buy/rent power station, powerful enough to feed your rig. No other way to check it. Also everyone's case is different, keep in mind. My solution might not work for you or any other guy, or vice versa.

BTW I just swapped my CPU, MoBo, PSU, Ram, changed ISP + bought 6a patchcords, still nothing, slightly better but still not perfect. As usual, saw an improvement for 1-2 days, then lag came back. Swapped everything but monitor and headset at this point lol.
Gonna borrow friend's power station for a week or two, or try fiddling with ethernet/antenna cables I have in the wall stacked together, since this issue is more present in online games (just played Hogwarts Legacy for hours, it's surprisingly smooth at 100-200 fps, no "slowdowns" or chopiness). One guy from forum suggested antenna being a source of lag.

Answering your "top helpful things" question I'd say: bios versions and settings (especially spread spectrum), OC/undervolting/stock, mouse and its firmware (got Viper 8k, v2 firmware was awful but v3 is much smoother), energy saving features in Device Manager esp. for LAN adapter, turn everything off. We had several outages also which has "fixed" my issue, at least made it much better, almost playable I'd say, but that's a coincidence most likely.

Hope this input is any helpful.

[joseph_from_pilsen]

Many choppy image issues are done by some bug in GPU vs Display scaling. Just a general advice - switch scaling from display scaling to GPU scaling first and vice versa, it may sometimes help.

E. g. zowie fabric already contacted developers of valorant (VALORANT PLAYERS READ THERE !) that the game has some weird bug causing the game to be choppy on display scaling when playing e. g. at zowie 2566K. Hotfix is to play at GPU scaling (runs better). Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comme ... e_xl2566k/

On the other hand, i am welcoming to the club, on my AW-2518HF the game started feeling weird, not 240hz feeling at all, however its maybe caused by a fact that i play often on another 280hz monitor with ULMB on. And maybe not, cuz 7 days ago it was fluent, only a bit darker, but now its a choppy mess with "60hz feeling". Scaling unfortunatelly does nothing and setting is still the same.