Can somebody explain this? [Apex Legends issue]

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Stimpy7314
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Re: Can somebody explain this? [Apex Legends issue]

Post by Stimpy7314 » 28 Jan 2023, 19:30

DanielleHowe wrote:
27 Jan 2023, 09:17
Yeah, I feel you on the choppy mouse movement in Apex Legends. It's super frustrating. I'm glad you found that it's better in the firing range mode; that helps narrow down the issue. It's too bad that the developers haven't been helpful.
Respawn are bussy selling skins. Bug-fixing isn't their highest priority :lol:

But yeah, firing range is way smoother then a online match. I also noticed that when things get smoothes out is that my bullets fire faster? :shock:

Worstylolzs
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Re: Can somebody explain this? [Apex Legends issue]

Post by Worstylolzs » 30 Jan 2023, 17:35

qvik18 wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 05:23
Worstylolzs wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 04:38
daviddave1 wrote:
06 Aug 2022, 04:43
Stimpy7314 wrote:
02 Aug 2022, 14:16
Hello guys,

I've been experiencing very bad performance in Apex legends, not fps wise but mouse movement wise. Let me explain, if i move my mouse to make a turn or if i want to aim at somebody it feels so damm choppy.

If i play in firing range mode the issue is gone, all movement seems to be smooth, aiming doesn't suck and everything plays faster then in a normal match. I've been trying to fix this for a year now and I'm giving up at this point. Their forum helpers aren't even helpful and the developers doesn't seem to care, they ignore this issue.



Specs/What I've tried so far:

CPU:Amd ryzen 5 3600
GPU:Gtx 1660 super
RAM:Kingston fury beast3200mhz16-17-17-18-36
MB:Asrock b450m steel legend bios p4:30
PSU:Corsair cv550
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Things I've tried:
stock windows 20h2
stock windows 21h2
stock windows 7 sp1
125hz, 500hz, 1000hz polling
different usb ports (usb 2, usb 3, front panel)
all devices unplugged except mouse
different mouse, different keyboard, different mousepad
180fps cap, 160fps cap, uncapped fps, 141fps cap, 144fps cap
r5apex low priority, high priority
mouse interrupt cpu affinity
different nvidia drivers
cpu underclock
cpu overclock
cpu stock (stock bios)
hyperthreading on, off
different monitor
entirely different rig (gtx 1080 ti amd ryzen 7 2700x)
Tried legacy mode & mbr
Different power plans
Power saving features all on in bios and off
Updated bios to latest/ used a previous bios version
Used rtss & gsync combo & vsync on
Gpu undervolt
Gpu overclock
Rgb off & led mb
All fans in dc mode & full speed & silent mode
blocked windows updates & driver updates
hags off / on & msi mode on/off
tried pcie wifi card & pcie network card, both from intel
brought my pc to different locations
used different vpn's, warp+, nordvpn, shurfshark, exitlag
used mobile hotspot, 4g+ and 5g (tmobile)
unplugged useless cables in pc
removed all fans
xmp on/off, single channel, dual channel, also overclock it with lower timers
1600dpi/3200dpi
high quality hdmi/dp cable
sftp cat6a cable
used different firmwares on my router, also tweaked a bunch of settings.

I've watched some famous apex streamers and their game seems to be very smooth as far i can tell. Their game is much quicker. Its actually really unfair that I'm dealing with this and other people aren't

Try running apex in exclusive fullscreen. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4WbtrV ... LOBOTOMYtv how to do that. Let me know if it worked or not. (Keep in mind in Apex its not as in other games to enable this feature. Maybe you think u enabled it but chances are its not. U have to test it. )
This is EPIC!
So long i looking for something what fix the "apex legends" wierd stuff. True is, maybe before i find fix, but i forget about it :D. I know you can stop DWM by nvidia inspector (if you are interested i can try find that, but later im now in work) and get rid of full screen optimatization lag. Anyway this fix what this YT guy have is very good. He have new video where he talking about more settings, but the disable full screen optimalization is most needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kab4Dls4H6o

Now i see the apex got Directx 12 version. I will recommended start apex from this exe.From my feeling testing on 360 hz it feeels so much better response and more cleaner. It's becase directx 12 got fixed fullscreen optimization, so it doesn't do bad thing to apex. The YT guy say it on video.

From this point i will look to another Windows fixs, because i dont know windows can do so bad things to games!

THX blurbusters guyz for this nice tip and made my day better :D

Short:
disable full screen optimalization with registry get rit of most input lag and wierd things in directx 11 apex (normal version)
Directx 12 exe of apex is working good from default.
how you disabled dwm using profile inspector? Please can you tell me?
Hi i found it there viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7767&hilit=dmw&start=40 Second comment and this screenshot: https://imgur.com/EvWRz9T its long time ago what i try it maybe 1-2 two years back so i dont know if this still working. Take my 20 minutes to find it :D but thx for motivation to find. I will try it again myself right now :D

Worstylolzs
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Joined: 23 Jan 2020, 10:28

Re: Can somebody explain this? [Apex Legends issue]

Post by Worstylolzs » 30 Jan 2023, 19:25

Worstylolzs wrote:
30 Jan 2023, 17:35
qvik18 wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 05:23
Worstylolzs wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 04:38
daviddave1 wrote:
06 Aug 2022, 04:43



Try running apex in exclusive fullscreen. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4WbtrV ... LOBOTOMYtv how to do that. Let me know if it worked or not. (Keep in mind in Apex its not as in other games to enable this feature. Maybe you think u enabled it but chances are its not. U have to test it. )
This is EPIC!
So long i looking for something what fix the "apex legends" wierd stuff. True is, maybe before i find fix, but i forget about it :D. I know you can stop DWM by nvidia inspector (if you are interested i can try find that, but later im now in work) and get rid of full screen optimatization lag. Anyway this fix what this YT guy have is very good. He have new video where he talking about more settings, but the disable full screen optimalization is most needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kab4Dls4H6o

Now i see the apex got Directx 12 version. I will recommended start apex from this exe.From my feeling testing on 360 hz it feeels so much better response and more cleaner. It's becase directx 12 got fixed fullscreen optimization, so it doesn't do bad thing to apex. The YT guy say it on video.

From this point i will look to another Windows fixs, because i dont know windows can do so bad things to games!

THX blurbusters guyz for this nice tip and made my day better :D

Short:
disable full screen optimalization with registry get rit of most input lag and wierd things in directx 11 apex (normal version)
Directx 12 exe of apex is working good from default.
how you disabled dwm using profile inspector? Please can you tell me?
Hi i found it there viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7767&hilit=dmw&start=40 Second comment and this screenshot: https://imgur.com/EvWRz9T its long time ago what i try it maybe 1-2 two years back so i dont know if this still working. Take my 20 minutes to find it :D but thx for motivation to find. I will try it again myself right now :D
I do some fast "Feeling testing" because i don't know good testing method for this case. And in my opinion FSO Fix from video is better, because it's fast and cleaner.

"disable DWM from inspector" is faster and little bit responsive than FSO fix in my opinion, but it's not so much clean like FSO.

i try apply both fix and it not work very well... :D

Please if someone know good method how test my opinios, test it and write there your results.

I need correct my statement, Profile inspector can't disable DWM but what i see from my testing, it will not give DWM Graphic focus. I test that theory with alt+tab between game and task manager, where i got ordered by 3D (i think in english it's Core GPU) and see how after alt+tab dwm don't have any 3D, after 3 sec he got some. So from that i think when yo are in game dwm don't have gpu focus and don't affect refresh rate. If someone can test it again, please do it.

Sry for horrible english, if something will not make sense, just ask me. Thx.

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