Kernel timer latency?

Everything about latency. Tips, testing methods, mouse lag, display lag, game engine lag, network lag, whole input lag chain, VSYNC OFF vs VSYNC ON, and more! Input Lag Articles on Blur Busters.
Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 15 Apr 2023, 21:47

deama wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 15:14
Weird stuff, I normally get 12k+ on latencyMon, when I keep DPC checker on, it goes down to 500, and when I have ISCL intelligent list standby cleaner on at the same time, it hovers between 25-50 sometimes spiking to 500.

Can't quite explain it, but I think my mouse somehow feels better? I'll do some latency measurements using my 1k fps camera and see how that goes tomorrow.
What system?

Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 15 Apr 2023, 21:53

z790, all e-cores enable in bios, disable in OS.
Default bcdedit (only disabledynamictick), 22h2.
This is sweetspot 0.999 timer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/ ... mer_issue/
2.5 years intel can't fix timer.
Attachments
Untitled (1).png
Untitled (1).png (207.91 KiB) Viewed 1817 times

deama
Posts: 370
Joined: 07 Aug 2019, 12:00

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by deama » 16 Apr 2023, 16:09

Slender wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 21:47
deama wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 15:14
Weird stuff, I normally get 12k+ on latencyMon, when I keep DPC checker on, it goes down to 500, and when I have ISCL intelligent list standby cleaner on at the same time, it hovers between 25-50 sometimes spiking to 500.

Can't quite explain it, but I think my mouse somehow feels better? I'll do some latency measurements using my 1k fps camera and see how that goes tomorrow.
What system?
Windows 10 22h2

Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 16 Apr 2023, 16:11

deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:09
Slender wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 21:47
deama wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 15:14
Weird stuff, I normally get 12k+ on latencyMon, when I keep DPC checker on, it goes down to 500, and when I have ISCL intelligent list standby cleaner on at the same time, it hovers between 25-50 sometimes spiking to 500.

Can't quite explain it, but I think my mouse somehow feels better? I'll do some latency measurements using my 1k fps camera and see how that goes tomorrow.
What system?
Windows 10 22h2
cpu/motherboard?

deama
Posts: 370
Joined: 07 Aug 2019, 12:00

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by deama » 16 Apr 2023, 16:15

Slender wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:11
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:09
Slender wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 21:47
deama wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 15:14
Weird stuff, I normally get 12k+ on latencyMon, when I keep DPC checker on, it goes down to 500, and when I have ISCL intelligent list standby cleaner on at the same time, it hovers between 25-50 sometimes spiking to 500.

Can't quite explain it, but I think my mouse somehow feels better? I'll do some latency measurements using my 1k fps camera and see how that goes tomorrow.
What system?
Windows 10 22h2
cpu/motherboard?
ryzen 7950x3d, gigabyte gaming x670, rtx 4080, 64gb ram g.skill 30-36-36-43-53

Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 18 Apr 2023, 00:06

deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:15
Slender wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:11
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:09
Slender wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 21:47


What system?
Windows 10 22h2
cpu/motherboard?
ryzen 7950x3d, gigabyte gaming x670, rtx 4080, 64gb ram g.skill 30-36-36-43-53
what timer res by default? 0.9999, 0.9996?

deama
Posts: 370
Joined: 07 Aug 2019, 12:00

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by deama » 18 Apr 2023, 10:32

Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:06
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:15
Slender wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:11
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:09

Windows 10 22h2
cpu/motherboard?
ryzen 7950x3d, gigabyte gaming x670, rtx 4080, 64gb ram g.skill 30-36-36-43-53
what timer res by default? 0.9999, 0.9996?
I set it to 0.5, and it gives me 0.4966 using ISLC

Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 18 Apr 2023, 10:35

deama wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:32
Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:06
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:15
Slender wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:11


cpu/motherboard?
ryzen 7950x3d, gigabyte gaming x670, rtx 4080, 64gb ram g.skill 30-36-36-43-53
what timer res by default? 0.9999, 0.9996?
I set it to 0.5, and it gives me 0.4966 using ISLC
if you set 1ms, what value islc or timertool v3 show?
any bcdedit settings?

deama
Posts: 370
Joined: 07 Aug 2019, 12:00

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by deama » 18 Apr 2023, 10:38

Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:35
deama wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:32
Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:06
deama wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 16:15

ryzen 7950x3d, gigabyte gaming x670, rtx 4080, 64gb ram g.skill 30-36-36-43-53
what timer res by default? 0.9999, 0.9996?
I set it to 0.5, and it gives me 0.4966 using ISLC
if you set 1ms, what value islc or timertool v3 show?
any bcdedit settings?
If I set it to 1, it gives me 0.9983 and gives me slightly worse DPC latency on the latency checker, though slightly more stable I think?

Slender
Posts: 603
Joined: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55

Re: Kernel timer latency?

Post by Slender » 18 Apr 2023, 10:43

deama wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:38
Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:35
deama wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 10:32
Slender wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 00:06


what timer res by default? 0.9999, 0.9996?
I set it to 0.5, and it gives me 0.4966 using ISLC
if you set 1ms, what value islc or timertool v3 show?
any bcdedit settings?
If I set it to 1, it gives me 0.9983 and gives me slightly worse DPC latency on the latency checker, though slightly more stable I think?
my am4 have 0.9996 timer.
hmm, am5 change it to 0.9983, strange.
0.9996/0.9999 best timer pick, always stable.
try to use for test:
bcdedit /set useplatformtick yes
it lock timer to 1000/500, but use RTC tick.

Post Reply