Mouse drifting confirmed.

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Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 22 Mar 2023, 17:34

Hi all, I have been chatting to the extremely helpful microsoft engineer regarding the noticeable drifting that occurs due to prolonged movement.

He developed a tool that will gather raw mouse reported x/y until there hasn't been any for one second and then tell you the cumulative distance traveled.

He says “my theory/expectation is that if you perform a mouse motion like the one you did when you sent the trace, you'll see significant negative Y accumulation”, which is exactly what happened - https://youtu.be/rZzu4Qb9v0o

Afterwards, “at this point the issue is the mouse itself - the data that's being logged here are the literal values being reported by the mouse, without any OS processing done (e.g. to turn it into a cursor position).”
“so the question is, why is the mouse itself not fully tracking its y-position?”

Which is where we have concluded for now.

Tomorrow I will run the test using a laptops trackpad to see if there is a high accumulation of -y, as there is with all the mice I have personally tried along with various setup configs.

If the result is the same as the mouse, should negate the issue being isolated to mice.
If not then it’s as the engineer says and is something to do with mice and their modern techniques for lack of a better descriptive term.

If anyone would like to try the tool let me know, and I’ll figure out how to share it.

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 24 Mar 2023, 18:49

So I ran the tool on a laptop, where the touchpad was experiencing drifting too, but while the cursor drifted upwards, the -y did not accumulate.

Went into regedit touchpad settings, created the dword HonorMouseAccelSetting value 1 and the touchpad drifting stopped entirely.

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by MegaMelmek » 26 Mar 2023, 13:20

I think this is windows 10/11 bug you cant fix this. My PC do same thing. Mouse is moving upside…

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 29 Mar 2023, 18:06

Here’s the tool, hopefully it’s downloadable.
https://mega.nz/file/BThGAI6a#eBlovjcKP ... 3Kb-JnSLnA

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by MontyTheAverage » 31 Mar 2023, 11:58

I got these during tests while idle, moving mouse on desktop and sometimes in game playing Apex. I don't know what they mean.

[490, 113] mouse motion over 17140 ms (14301 messages).
[-4851, 565] mouse motion over 33266 ms (19823 messages).
[227, 221] mouse motion over 10875 ms (798 messages).
[460, -130] mouse motion over 17421 ms (11456 messages).
[-200, -90] mouse motion over 9500 ms (9504 messages).
[-1, 76] mouse motion over 24672 ms (14325 messages).
[3577, 651] mouse motion over 34250 ms (16918 messages).
[365, 277] mouse motion over 2078 ms (462 messages).
[1015, 12] mouse motion over 18766 ms (4950 messages).
[-633, 358] mouse motion over 46703 ms (12891 messages).
[-1, -16] mouse motion over 1297 ms (89 messages).
[1, -1] mouse motion over 16 ms (2 messages).
[8, -19] mouse motion over 1359 ms (27 messages).
[-91, -98] mouse motion over 17719 ms (2235 messages).
[21, -2] mouse motion over 235 ms (22 messages).

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 31 Mar 2023, 20:16

Means very little due to the nature of your test and not knowing the exact movement of the mouse.

Best to open and make repeat mouse movements e.g. left to right over and over with your mouse retaining the same position on the pad.

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 15 Apr 2023, 18:23

Here is a guide and download link on how to use to determine whether you have my particular brand of mouse drift issue, or not.

https://youtu.be/wqj-X2-joC4

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 25 Apr 2023, 21:07

I’ve observed that msi boards I’ve been looking at (z390) have considerably better mouse movement in bios. I’m going to buy to see if this is a bleed over effect from poor handling in my asus bios to confirm this being the cause.

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by TommioTTV » 25 Apr 2023, 22:48

Download ServiWin: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/serviwin.html

Disable Microsoft UEFI Driver
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Restart your PC then disable Microsoft UEFI-complaint system
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Report back and let me know if this helped!

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Re: Mouse drifting confirmed.

Post by Vocaleyes » 26 Apr 2023, 04:54

Thanks for the instructions, unfortunately it didn’t fix my issue. Still accumulating mouse Co-ords..

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