after 25 years his input lag gone...

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after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by blackmagic » 03 Jul 2023, 11:34

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just look at moment where omen is on the top of the box...this dude dont even noticed him at first even then when omen try to kill him 0:47 but you will immediately understand which player plays with anomaly bad hitreg and huge desync on server and which player dont and has all the time to react and turn around and to make a kill...:lol:

or 1:13 moment...1vs3 but he just dont cares at all and sprays everything like they are some bots and not human with reaction time at all...because he know and feel that enemy is full desynced and has the worst hitreg against him and they have literally no chance...and his score and KAD just proofs all this theory and how fucked up and sad everything is.


but its crazy how the game can behave if everything is in some better and good condition. no wonder that some players reach fast high levels in just some weeks while some other stuck forever or even more worse...they derank and only derank and only getting worse after 1000 of hours aimlab practice and tryharding learn game basics and mechanics... :lol:

this all is just hard mess.
and this all should be just illegal in normal world and not even allowed in todays days of so called "fairplay online esports gaming era"...but that what developers tell you when release such games but reality is completely different and has almost nothing to do with skill and fairplay at all.

the real world looks like this...anomaly advantage against unormally disadvantage...bad condition against good condition...desync against less desync...bad hitreg against better hitreg and input lag against less input lag = and this all decides about W or L and how far and fast you gonna climb in online esports from your pro gamer home room and location.


i would prefer to play against obv cheaters all day where i exactly know that im losing because of cheaters than playing against players where i see and feel that some hard unfair bullshit going on and you cant even report all this madness or do something against that all...you just stuck with that bad conditions and the worst is when you start to realize all this mess and after you go for searching the source of the problem and an magic fix because of all this bullshit that happens infront of your face and eyes...


but that how it all starts and that why most are come to this forum and probably more will come in near future...MUCH MORE :!: people just cant be blind to this all or stay blind forever...one day they gonna grow up too and then they gonna want to know the real source issue of this all. this already happening right now at many forums...the process is already started and more and more people start to ask questions about all this madness.


im lucky for this guy that his anomaly problems gone in town and location. the only question...for how long.


now lets go all to twitch and watch streamers which play in good (almost perfect) conditions and enjoy all this madness and the show together guys. ;)

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by Slender » 03 Jul 2023, 15:53

this is silver rank?

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by blackmagic » 03 Jul 2023, 16:38

Slender wrote:
03 Jul 2023, 15:53
this is silver rank?
even if its silver rank...dont matters.

this dude has here huge advantage and its clearly not his aim or skill or because he has good game sense :lol:


the omen moment shows that this dude dont even has much game sense at all and even ignores the mini-map radar but still wins such situations and this the point where it gets hard unfair for all players in the match and especially for the enemy which probably tryharding in that broken condition against this "dude".

where only one guy can carry a team to win just because he moves faster on server and all his actions processed way faster than all the other players on the server and his ability is to eat all the bullets and block them with his hitbox and face. "irony on" and after then they gonna say that omen just missed him by few pixels on reddit if omen would upload a clip from his point of view...yes sure because the omen is just an completely bot with no brain and no aim and just has bad crosshair placement. "irony off"

on his own display this dude moves like an noob that just start to play and learn this game...that how it all look like.

...but for others players and on there displays in this match he is probably an god with crazy reaction time and pro hitreg and this poor guys which he rekts probably dont even realize this all huge difference and disvantage they are stuck against such players and that there game just works and behaves completely different than what this dude experience in his room and with this crazy advantage he has all the time to perform actions and make many easy kills against such poor guys...he could even go knive in pistol round and probably would still win the round :lol:



that what all my talk is about.



but i still cant understand how developers can ignore this all facts and say that everything alright and best game performance and experience with best netcode and fairplay gunplay ?

...wtf just is wrong with this world.


it all goes so damn the wrong way.

it just dont should be like this...that has nothing at all to do with good netcode and online fairplay and even an blind imbecile can see all this but for some reason many still just ignoring all this mess and even on valorant official reddit they keep defend all this bullshit that happens and where some guys still try to upload hitreg clips and try to understand why they get rekt in such good position and how that possible with low ping...

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by MIETAS » 04 Jul 2023, 02:24

This indeed looks sad.
Modern PC gaming has been nothing but a huge disappointment for me.
I wonder what factor has the bigger impact here:

1. Technology being more and more complex and therefore more vulnerable to interference/desync
2. Gaming as a kid on a simple potato PC with zero awareness of these modern problems and enjoyed every second of it.

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by blackmagic » 04 Jul 2023, 09:51

MIETAS wrote:
04 Jul 2023, 02:24
This indeed looks sad.
Modern PC gaming has been nothing but a huge disappointment for me.
I wonder what factor has the bigger impact here:

1. Technology being more and more complex and therefore more vulnerable to interference/desync
2. Gaming as a kid on a simple potato PC with zero awareness of these modern problems and enjoyed every second of it.

i think there many many factors...its a combination and if something goes wrong and not alright in that combination...well then the player fucked forever with bad online gaming experience and stuck with that until he grow up and start to realize this things... :lol:

but most impact are the developers itself that just dont care about all this but they for sure aware about everything what going with some players online experience...and how unfair it can be...worse than playing against cheaters lol.

atleast you can report cheaters but you cant report such unfair thing because its "JUST USER PROBLEM"...that what they say all the years to the online players with such problems...because that much easier to say than try to solve something and make better and improve online esports more to everyone.

im for sure that they can handle all this problem from there side too and optimize everything for more real and close online fairplay. and dont matter what happens on users client side and which anomaly input and lag appear and desync or hitreg...

but for some reason they keep just silent on all this and ignore everything and the dumb community even defend this all by saying that this all is just skill issue and that the other player was just few ms ping pixels faster and just had better reaction than you :lol: ...dont know if they troll all or really still believe in all this bullshit ping and jitter and pixel thing but yes this all is sad much.



looks like work on and releasre skins are much more matter for them all than such things and good fairness in online...

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by hleV » 04 Jul 2023, 15:29

Nothing in that video indicates that the enemy has high input lag. Are they high level players who are known to have decent reaction times? A better player at 60Hz will win against a worse player at 480Hz, having lower ELO than you'd expect is not input lag's fault. This is not to say that everyone has it equal in online games (especially with higher ping differences), but compared to actual skill (and ping), the impact other things have is not as high as you're implying.
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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by blackmagic » 04 Jul 2023, 17:05

hleV wrote:
04 Jul 2023, 15:29
Nothing in that video indicates that the enemy has high input lag. Are they high level players who are known to have decent reaction times? A better player at 60Hz will win against a worse player at 480Hz, having lower ELO than you'd expect is not input lag's fault. This is not to say that everyone has it equal in online games (especially with higher ping differences), but compared to actual skill (and ping), the impact other things have is not as high as you're implying.

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by Unreazz » 05 Jul 2023, 03:52

hleV wrote:
04 Jul 2023, 15:29
Nothing in that video indicates that the enemy has high input lag. Are they high level players who are known to have decent reaction times? A better player at 60Hz will win against a worse player at 480Hz, having lower ELO than you'd expect is not input lag's fault. This is not to say that everyone has it equal in online games (especially with higher ping differences), but compared to actual skill (and ping), the impact other things have is not as high as you're implying.
You know, you can't really tell who has skill and who doesn't, because not everyone plays under the same conditions. You can't win a race with skill without having tires on the car, can you? Think about it.

And yes the impact of having no lags and everything running in real time, especially in online games is very high !

More important than having skill, because a noob on a good line will finish you off, while on a bad one you can't do anything about it, no matter how good you really are. If your internet sucks, so do you. When will you guys understand this ?

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by blackmagic » 05 Jul 2023, 04:24

Unreazz wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 03:52
hleV wrote:
04 Jul 2023, 15:29
Nothing in that video indicates that the enemy has high input lag. Are they high level players who are known to have decent reaction times? A better player at 60Hz will win against a worse player at 480Hz, having lower ELO than you'd expect is not input lag's fault. This is not to say that everyone has it equal in online games (especially with higher ping differences), but compared to actual skill (and ping), the impact other things have is not as high as you're implying.
You know, you can't really tell who has skill and who doesn't, because not everyone plays under the same conditions. You can't win a race with skill without having tires on the car, can you? Think about it.

And yes the impact of having no lags and everything running in real time, especially in online games is very high !

More important than having skill, because a noob on a good line will finish you off, while on a bad one you can't do anything about it, no matter how good you really are. If your internet sucks, so do you. When will you guys understand this ?

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Re: after 25 years his input lag gone...

Post by AyayronPlays » 05 Jul 2023, 15:12

He was live streaming on Twitch so i went on his stream and asked him how he managed to fix it, he responded that he didn't know, but he was having issues again. Albeit his English is not 100% so maybe I misunderstood him.

So something must have changed outside of his control and fixed the issue.

EDIT: Albeit watching his stream his inputs seemed fine, he was playing CS:GO.

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