[Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

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TN_fun
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by TN_fun » 05 May 2021, 05:45

heavy car bug is the same, the same input lag caused by electricity.
But input lag is already a consequence of the main problem, namely - your computer slows down "in time", any game runs slower, all physics is slower, animation is slower, you can literally see it.
heavy car bug is exactly the same. It seems to people that it is heavy (like the recoil of weapons, for example, a "heavy" gun), but this is a consequence, all physics in the game is slower, the car turns slowly, reacts, hence the feeling of input lag.

Does anyone in this thread understand this? That the first reason is a slowdown, and the input lag is a consequence?

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by Blonekql » 05 May 2021, 06:06

TN_fun wrote:
05 May 2021, 05:45
heavy car bug is the same, the same input lag caused by electricity.
But input lag is already a consequence of the main problem, namely - your computer slows down "in time", any game runs slower, all physics is slower, animation is slower, you can literally see it.
heavy car bug is exactly the same. It seems to people that it is heavy (like the recoil of weapons, for example, a "heavy" gun), but this is a consequence, all physics in the game is slower, the car turns slowly, reacts, hence the feeling of input lag.

Does anyone in this thread understand this? That the first reason is a slowdown, and the input lag is a consequence?
+1

deama
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by deama » 05 May 2021, 12:28

blackmagic wrote:
05 May 2021, 00:46
what im experience here has 99% nothing to with input lag and hardware...it just dont feels like lag or input...but that only my feelings...im never an expert in input lag.

i just feel that it is something else but i have no definition for that kind of most weird phenomenon that hit me some years ago and that ruins since then all my fun in online games.


but i discover right now more and more each day...


i become very interested into "heavy car bug" in rocket league and find there many experiences from guys who describe 1:1 same feelings of what i experience here in competitive shooters...

i find even a guy who says that reboot or restart game makes the car for some time playable but then it becomes like heavy after a time window and unplayable...and that all following by losing matches and getting worse...unable to control the car easy and precise like it was possible just some minutes ago...

i never before heard about heavy car bug because i just was never interested into games like rocket league but this unexplainable placebo and till today not solved bug is very hot topic for me right now here.

i even install this game to see how i gonna perform in it and if i gonna feel or notice this heavy car bug too after spent some gameplay time and after learn the mechanics...need first to get used to this game because its rly new genre for me.

most in the community in rocket league dont believe in this bug and call it just placebo but there people who try to proof that it is real and exist...haha also same like in all other games where bullshit happens for some people and the rest just cant understand it because they probably never suffered it or had it rarely happen...

even when i said that i give up on this all...this weird "unexplainable placebo" dont let me go.
i just cant sleep normal without find out what is really behind this all...

there way to much coincidences and parallels on this weird bullshit that happen for some and that in different online games...

here an article, blogs on this "heavy car bug":
https://dignitas.gg/articles/blogs/rock ... ket-league

very funny to read all this "fixes"...
where many users, players report and comment (on youtube) that this tweaks, fixes helped only for a short time and it become heavy car again...
looks like all this fixes has an expiry date... :lol:

sounds very similar to all my fixes in shooters that i tried here and nothing helped and was never constant or stable and always degraded to the bad state again where i was before all the "fixes"...
I heard from a hi-fi audio guy that did a review on power conditioners and his conclusion was that they didn't do much, he later followed up saying that the AudioQuest Niagara 1200 was the only one that actually gave him good results, but that sucker is $1000.
If you have the money to spend, you're probably best bet is to get a double conversion online UPS to get rid of the big voltage problems, then that Niagara 1200 to actually clean the power, and then build or buy a faraday cage for you PC case to make sure it doesn't get any interference from signals. If this doesn't fix you're problem, then no clue what you could possibly do at that point.

pox02
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by pox02 » 05 May 2021, 16:02

deama wrote:
05 May 2021, 12:28
blackmagic wrote:
05 May 2021, 00:46
what im experience here has 99% nothing to with input lag and hardware...it just dont feels like lag or input...but that only my feelings...im never an expert in input lag.

i just feel that it is something else but i have no definition for that kind of most weird phenomenon that hit me some years ago and that ruins since then all my fun in online games.


but i discover right now more and more each day...


i become very interested into "heavy car bug" in rocket league and find there many experiences from guys who describe 1:1 same feelings of what i experience here in competitive shooters...

i find even a guy who says that reboot or restart game makes the car for some time playable but then it becomes like heavy after a time window and unplayable...and that all following by losing matches and getting worse...unable to control the car easy and precise like it was possible just some minutes ago...

i never before heard about heavy car bug because i just was never interested into games like rocket league but this unexplainable placebo and till today not solved bug is very hot topic for me right now here.

i even install this game to see how i gonna perform in it and if i gonna feel or notice this heavy car bug too after spent some gameplay time and after learn the mechanics...need first to get used to this game because its rly new genre for me.

most in the community in rocket league dont believe in this bug and call it just placebo but there people who try to proof that it is real and exist...haha also same like in all other games where bullshit happens for some people and the rest just cant understand it because they probably never suffered it or had it rarely happen...

even when i said that i give up on this all...this weird "unexplainable placebo" dont let me go.
i just cant sleep normal without find out what is really behind this all...

there way to much coincidences and parallels on this weird bullshit that happen for some and that in different online games...

here an article, blogs on this "heavy car bug":
https://dignitas.gg/articles/blogs/rock ... ket-league

very funny to read all this "fixes"...
where many users, players report and comment (on youtube) that this tweaks, fixes helped only for a short time and it become heavy car again...
looks like all this fixes has an expiry date... :lol:

sounds very similar to all my fixes in shooters that i tried here and nothing helped and was never constant or stable and always degraded to the bad state again where i was before all the "fixes"...
I heard from a hi-fi audio guy that did a review on power conditioners and his conclusion was that they didn't do much, he later followed up saying that the AudioQuest Niagara 1200 was the only one that actually gave him good results, but that sucker is $1000.
If you have the money to spend, you're probably best bet is to get a double conversion online UPS to get rid of the big voltage problems, then that Niagara 1200 to actually clean the power, and then build or buy a faraday cage for you PC case to make sure it doesn't get any interference from signals. If this doesn't fix you're problem, then no clue what you could possibly do at that point.
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? https://www.ametekesp.com/-/media/amete ... .pdf?la=en if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by Uchihax » 05 May 2021, 16:21

the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro

deama
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by deama » 05 May 2021, 19:06

Uchihax wrote:
05 May 2021, 16:21
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro
At the end of the day you have to try to truly know whether it will fix your problem. Power conditioners are meant to fix fluctuations in voltage and reduce EMI in the line, problem is though that power conditioners can't fix big voltage fluctuations, that's why I recommended you get a UPS online double conversion ontop just to make sure.

Uchihax
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by Uchihax » 05 May 2021, 21:55

deama wrote:
05 May 2021, 19:06
Uchihax wrote:
05 May 2021, 16:21
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro
At the end of the day you have to try to truly know whether it will fix your problem. Power conditioners are meant to fix fluctuations in voltage and reduce EMI in the line, problem is though that power conditioners can't fix big voltage fluctuations, that's why I recommended you get a UPS online double conversion ontop just to make sure.
alrdy tried 2 differents models of power conditioner "Furman M-10x and Furman M-8x2" not worked still the same input lag floaty mouse and inconsistent mouse movements im a CS Player since 2005 cs 1.6 and my problem started in 2016 on CSGO =/ And i alrdy have UPS "CDP R-Smart 2010 2000va 12000w'' still no improvements .. tried alot of mices, mousepads etc... also i have new expensive pc Ryzen 9 5900x RTX 3070 still the same shit this input lag killing my carees as a FPS gamer plz help =/

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by pox02 » 06 May 2021, 10:31

deama wrote:
05 May 2021, 19:06
Uchihax wrote:
05 May 2021, 16:21
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro
At the end of the day you have to try to truly know whether it will fix your problem. Power conditioners are meant to fix fluctuations in voltage and reduce EMI in the line, problem is though that power conditioners can't fix big voltage fluctuations, that's why I recommended you get a UPS online double conversion ontop just to make sure.
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i will go with UPS + isolator https://www.ametekesp.com/surgex/ups-tr ... r-120-208v like this one
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by deama » 06 May 2021, 12:29

pox02 wrote:
06 May 2021, 10:31
deama wrote:
05 May 2021, 19:06
Uchihax wrote:
05 May 2021, 16:21
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro
At the end of the day you have to try to truly know whether it will fix your problem. Power conditioners are meant to fix fluctuations in voltage and reduce EMI in the line, problem is though that power conditioners can't fix big voltage fluctuations, that's why I recommended you get a UPS online double conversion ontop just to make sure.
i will go with UPS + isolator https://www.ametekesp.com/surgex/ups-tr ... r-120-208v like this one
No no, you cannot, I specifically mentioned the niagra 1200 as that is a very good power conditioner, most other power conditioners don't actually work well.

If you want to fix this problem, you need to spend lots of money, otherwise I would not recommend you spend just $200 just to "see" if it works, because there's a good chance it won't actually do anything because either the UPS sucks, or the power conditioner sucks, or both.

Here's a video of a guy reviewing $100+ power conditioners and they kinda suck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFh1e7razo

pox02
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by pox02 » 06 May 2021, 13:19

deama wrote:
06 May 2021, 12:29
pox02 wrote:
06 May 2021, 10:31
deama wrote:
05 May 2021, 19:06
Uchihax wrote:
05 May 2021, 16:21
the real question is niagra 1200 can fix N-G voltages problems ? if not its not will help u even ups can not fix it ! the only one can fix it is isolation transformer

are u sure this insolation tranformer thing fix all the input lag and EMI etc¿ going to buy it.. this thing is so expensive bro
At the end of the day you have to try to truly know whether it will fix your problem. Power conditioners are meant to fix fluctuations in voltage and reduce EMI in the line, problem is though that power conditioners can't fix big voltage fluctuations, that's why I recommended you get a UPS online double conversion ontop just to make sure.
i will go with UPS + isolator https://www.ametekesp.com/surgex/ups-tr ... r-120-208v like this one
No no, you cannot, I specifically mentioned the niagra 1200 as that is a very good power conditioner, most other power conditioners don't actually work well.

If you want to fix this problem, you need to spend lots of money, otherwise I would not recommend you spend just $200 just to "see" if it works, because there's a good chance it won't actually do anything because either the UPS sucks, or the power conditioner sucks, or both.

Here's a video of a guy reviewing $100+ power conditioners and they kinda suck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFh1e7razo
where did u see its cost 200$? the niagra 1200 cost around 900 euro with tax but u dont know what ground they fix so i suggest go with UPS ONLINE + ISOLATOR for best ground fix/noises

if u have the money

https://www.tripplite.com/dual-voltage- ... IS1800HGDV

with this power cord https://www.futureshop.co.uk/supra-lora ... tom-length

and for someone that 1000W enough for him

https://www.tripplite.com/dual-voltage- ... IS1000HGDV

with this power cord https://www.futureshop.co.uk/audioquest ... ower-cable
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