I have the new Razer 8000 Hz prototype gaming mouse on my desk.

[lyrill]

Oh, good to hear, they're now sampling the 2nd batch!
howiec, what refresh rate are you currently using?

Yeah, I'm looking forward to comparing results with others'.

I dropped down to 366Hz after I got some pretty bad display artifacts, which I'm guessing were from using 433Hz too long. Apparently the issue wasn't driver-related. A full power disconnect from the monitor was required to reset it and eliminate the display issue that I mentioned in the PG259QN thread.

433HZ? for a while already? what monitor?

[Chief Blur Buster]

433HZ? for a while already? what monitor?

PG259QN is overclockable to 433Hz albiet with frameskipping.
366Hz works without frameskipping.

[howiec]

433HZ? for a while already? what monitor?

PG259QN is overclockable to 433Hz albiet with frameskipping.
366Hz works without frameskipping.

Yeah, I added a comment about 433Hz vertical bars corruption risk in the PG259QN thread. I haven't had any issue at 366Hz thus far *crossing fingers*.

[tech]

Be noted it may be a good idea to buy a USB3 PCIe card (dedicated USB chip + dedicated PCIe lane to CPU for the 8000Hz mouse) as a lot of motherboard ports are simply garbage.

Wow, that's news to me.

I already have one that's based on a fl1100 series chip that's plugged into old, pre-USB3 era hardware which would struggle with constant 1000Hz polling. I assumed anything other than the mainboard USB1/2 ports would add latency. But switching my mouse to the PCIe card certainly made a difference. Now I'm hitting constant 1000Hz polling on a mouse testing software and I certainly feel the difference in-game. This may be placebo but I feel I'm experiencing fewer hitches. Perhaps my keyboard which also polls at 1000Hz has fewer conflicts now?
Anyhow thanks for that tip.

[Boop]

Linus tech tips showing off 8000hz Atom Palm on 360hz display. Quite a few BlurBuster references in the video.

https://youtu.be/gOQNRvJbpmk

[howiec]

Well, I'm under NDA so without revealing anything that's not already known, for now I'm just going to say that I can 100% confirm that the improvements are as I expected and are in line with Chief's previous comments.


The difference between 1 and 8 kHz is as clear as night and day to me:
The improvement in responsiveness and smoothness is extremely obvious to the point where I'm certain that I would be able to correctly identify the polling rate in blind A/B testing.

Keep in mind that I have a very optimized setup with settings tweaks to the game, OS, driver, hardware, etc.

E.g. 360Hz, RTX 3090, numerous optimizations to maximize performance and minimize latency.

[lyrill]

Well, I'm under NDA so without revealing anything that's not already known, for now I'm just going to say that I can 100% confirm that the improvements are as I expected and are in line with Chief's previous comments.


The difference between 1 and 8 kHz is as clear as night and day to me:
The improvement in responsiveness and smoothness is extremely obvious to the point where I'm certain that I would be able to correctly identify the polling rate in blind A/B testing.

Keep in mind that I have a very optimized setup with settings tweaks to the game, OS, driver, hardware, etc.

E.g. 360Hz, RTX 3090, numerous optimizations to maximize performance and minimize latency.

people should start to define what slow speed really mean by now. the ips marketing lingo should be dropped. what is considered slow speed should be the point where you start to see dots. or rather, not see dots. the 8khz people make it all sound so complicated as if it's all about "DO I TRUST THIS" like come on. it's just 8x what 1khz does. it will still have the same jitter issues, the same dotting when you swipe 8x faster, and make no mistake i can see dotting if i draw a 1cm circle on my pad per second casually with 3200dpi. that means if i draw anything bigger than a 8cm circle, 8khz is not enough.

wake up

[Razer_TheFiend]

Well, I'm under NDA so without revealing anything that's not already known.

I would actually encourage sharing your findings to fuel community discussion and the feedback loop. The NDA is really only in place to stop people from doing teardowns/reverse engineering and releveling any specific "trade secrets" (for the lack of a better word). If you want to share something but feel that you can't because of the NDA - just shoot us an email to verify.

[Boop]

Well, I'm under NDA so without revealing anything that's not already known

Time to spill the beans

[howiec]

I would actually encourage sharing your findings to fuel community discussion and the feedback loop. The NDA is really only in place to stop people from doing teardowns/reverse engineering and releveling any specific "trade secrets" (for the lack of a better word).

Great! Thanks for clarifying.