Mouse stutter/jitter causing rendering problem that looks like but isn't SLI frame pacing issue
Posted: 01 Oct 2020, 11:45
ARRGH!
It has happened twice now!! First off I wrote for too long and the site timed out when I went to submit, so I lost it, lesson learnt I would copy and paste before the second attempt, the second time I had just added a YouTube link and wanted to preview to make sure it looked okay for when I posted it... IT LOGGED ME OUT AGAIN!!! ARGH!! I had just copy and pasted the YouTube link... I didn't copy the text as I didn't know the preview would need me to authenticate again... argh!! lesson learnt again D':
Any how, this is going to be super brief as I wrote far too much both other times, hopefully this will be enough for people to help me with.
I have an issue where my mouse seems to jitter or vibrate as I am playing games (I am assuming polling rate vs refresh rate isn't playing nicely with one another) and pan a camera around, it causes the game to look like it nearly has SLI stutter when I am playing a game, the video doens't quite show it off properly but that is mostly due to uploading to YouTube and also the specific thing I recorded for showing you all but suffice to say a game like Escape from Tarkov is impossible to play, it is actually nauseating to play Tarkov, I play night time maps to get around it, Destiny 2 renders at a high frame rate so it looks better but the issue is still present.
So if you look at this video (The video stutters at the beginning because I started recording too, that isn't normally happening, look at the frame time graph and you will see it gets super erratic when I pressed record) at about 0:05 you will see me move my mouse up and to the right and you will see the stuttering effect I am talking about, set the video to 0.25 if you need to see it more clearly, the video got smoothed out in the upload/recording process annoyingly, I set my mouse DPI to 125 for this test to try and highlight the issue, this happens all the time and it is harder to show in a video than I thought it would be.
On the hardware troubleshooting, assume I have swapped out every bit of hardware with a replacement (as I have), different USB ports used, different monitors, different mouse/mouse pads, different storage with different OS builds on it, different BIOS different everything basically, I have even used a UPS with power smoothing and now have an EMI filtered powerboard to rule out that as the possible fault.
On the settings I have used I have used the guides on this site to no avail (in the past they had worked though but this is going a year or so now I run GSync on or OFF, VSync on or off etc and it still happens, so far the best I can get is to set a fixed refresh rate and cap games to that, this doesn't work for Tarkov as it will have a frame rate any where from 75 to 120 in the same game, I can turn on the spot and have it go through that.
The thing that has screwed me is the fact that it happens to two machines even after a fresh rebuild. I have no idea what is causing it but am stuck and need help as I have gone as far as I can investigating hardware issues (I sent the hardware to be looked at under warranty with no faults found so it is somethign my end).
Let me know if you can help. Ask me any and everything. This is still half of what I wrote either of the other two times and it is still getting a bit long. Hopefully someone reads through this far. Thanks.
Monitor: LG 27GL850-b
GPU: RTX2080, GTX1050, RX570
Mouse: Logitech G502, Razor Deathadder v2, misc generic mouse HP Acer etc
It has happened twice now!! First off I wrote for too long and the site timed out when I went to submit, so I lost it, lesson learnt I would copy and paste before the second attempt, the second time I had just added a YouTube link and wanted to preview to make sure it looked okay for when I posted it... IT LOGGED ME OUT AGAIN!!! ARGH!! I had just copy and pasted the YouTube link... I didn't copy the text as I didn't know the preview would need me to authenticate again... argh!! lesson learnt again D':
Any how, this is going to be super brief as I wrote far too much both other times, hopefully this will be enough for people to help me with.
I have an issue where my mouse seems to jitter or vibrate as I am playing games (I am assuming polling rate vs refresh rate isn't playing nicely with one another) and pan a camera around, it causes the game to look like it nearly has SLI stutter when I am playing a game, the video doens't quite show it off properly but that is mostly due to uploading to YouTube and also the specific thing I recorded for showing you all but suffice to say a game like Escape from Tarkov is impossible to play, it is actually nauseating to play Tarkov, I play night time maps to get around it, Destiny 2 renders at a high frame rate so it looks better but the issue is still present.
So if you look at this video (The video stutters at the beginning because I started recording too, that isn't normally happening, look at the frame time graph and you will see it gets super erratic when I pressed record) at about 0:05 you will see me move my mouse up and to the right and you will see the stuttering effect I am talking about, set the video to 0.25 if you need to see it more clearly, the video got smoothed out in the upload/recording process annoyingly, I set my mouse DPI to 125 for this test to try and highlight the issue, this happens all the time and it is harder to show in a video than I thought it would be.
On the hardware troubleshooting, assume I have swapped out every bit of hardware with a replacement (as I have), different USB ports used, different monitors, different mouse/mouse pads, different storage with different OS builds on it, different BIOS different everything basically, I have even used a UPS with power smoothing and now have an EMI filtered powerboard to rule out that as the possible fault.
On the settings I have used I have used the guides on this site to no avail (in the past they had worked though but this is going a year or so now I run GSync on or OFF, VSync on or off etc and it still happens, so far the best I can get is to set a fixed refresh rate and cap games to that, this doesn't work for Tarkov as it will have a frame rate any where from 75 to 120 in the same game, I can turn on the spot and have it go through that.
The thing that has screwed me is the fact that it happens to two machines even after a fresh rebuild. I have no idea what is causing it but am stuck and need help as I have gone as far as I can investigating hardware issues (I sent the hardware to be looked at under warranty with no faults found so it is somethign my end).
Let me know if you can help. Ask me any and everything. This is still half of what I wrote either of the other two times and it is still getting a bit long. Hopefully someone reads through this far. Thanks.
Monitor: LG 27GL850-b
GPU: RTX2080, GTX1050, RX570
Mouse: Logitech G502, Razor Deathadder v2, misc generic mouse HP Acer etc