Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

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wallC
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Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by wallC » 14 Jan 2022, 07:09

Hi!

My friend and I were debating a little about what fps_max should be set to in CS:GO, he referred to a Linustechtips video which said the optimal max would be double the hz of your monitor (in our instance 240hz = fps max set til 480).
My thought process is to have it locked where you're not dipping too much, to keep the drops minimal/consistent (not have 500fps somewhere, then dropping to 260fps). Higher fps = less input lag? Bigger dips in fps 500 to 250 = variance in input lag and inconsistency?

What would be the optimal solution for especially CS:GO?

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by woodyfly » 15 Jan 2022, 22:18

For me I notice less stuttering when my fps is set to 240 or 480. I don't know if its tearing or what but anytime my fps is near around 280-300+ my game looks very unsmooth. It's not until I get to like 500+ fps csgo looks smoother. I just chalk it up to some kind of issue with my pc or electrcitry

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by MatrixQW » 15 Jan 2022, 22:45

woodyfly wrote:
15 Jan 2022, 22:18
For me I notice less stuttering when my fps is set to 240 or 480. I don't know if its tearing or what but anytime my fps is near around 280-300+ my game looks very unsmooth. It's not until I get to like 500+ fps csgo looks smoother. I just chalk it up to some kind of issue with my pc or electrcitry
That's "normal" and yes, it's tearing.
The further your fps move away from the monitor's hz the tearing will spread and you will get a sluggish/unsmooth feeling.
Only when you achieve very high fps the tearing becomes less visible.
Keeping fps close to hz will avoid that unsmooth tearing.

If you use multiples of the Hz you get one horizontal tear line (transparent and moving vertically) added.
Hz will be 239.xx, with 240 fps the line moves up.
240Hz -> 240fps=1 line ; 480fps=2 lines ; 720fps=3 lines, and so on.
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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by MatrixQW » 15 Jan 2022, 22:59

wallC wrote:
14 Jan 2022, 07:09
Higher fps = less input lag? Bigger dips in fps 500 to 250 = variance in input lag and inconsistency?

What would be the optimal solution for especially CS:GO?
Higher fps give less input lag but you need to use a value where the fps will never drop from.
If you can't get 480fps during the whole match then you should use 240.

WelcomeInNewWorld
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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by WelcomeInNewWorld » 15 Jan 2022, 23:04

This person is right, it is recommended to have the double. Personally I have a 240 Hz screen but as I am closer to 240 FPS in full game with anti-cheat than 400 FPS, I switched to 144 Hz. 144 Hz @ fps_max 300. The game is great

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by FPSMaster » 16 Jan 2022, 05:27

Try out capping FPS to the exact number. 144+144 is 288. You get almost no tearing and it feels much smoother/responsive.

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by FPSMaster » 16 Jan 2022, 05:27

Try out capping FPS to the exact number. 144+144 is 288. You get almost no tearing and it feels much smoother/responsive.

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by MegaMelmek » 16 Jan 2022, 07:41

Linustechtips, gamernexus and so on they do know nothing about gaming.. they do know how to build PC and test 440Hz monitor but they cant test real advantage in gaming because they are not gamers….

MatrixQW
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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by MatrixQW » 17 Jan 2022, 13:40

MegaMelmek wrote:
16 Jan 2022, 07:41
Linustechtips, gamernexus and so on they do know nothing about gaming.. they do know how to build PC and test 440Hz monitor but they cant test real advantage in gaming because they are not gamers….
Even if they are not gamers, the tip is correct. Something you can try with any game.
The benefit is less tearing.

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Re: Any benefit of having max fps to double the hz of your monitor? Ex 240hz=max fps 480.

Post by MT_ » 08 Mar 2022, 18:05

If you've optimized your PC enough so that in-game fps limiter is accurate enough and you can sustain double (or triple etc) fps of your fixed refresh display, then yes there are benefits.

Minimal tearing thus easier to see things faster imho, at the expense of some latency. I run csgo at 240fps on 120hz monitor and use cl_showfps 1 gives me almost clean 240fps at all times. (Dont check with netgraph as its less accurate.

Another benefit would be that you dont start to buffer frames because of occasional gpu maxing out.

It sure gives consistent gameplay. I prefer this to uncapped tearing mess.

However if you cap game to set fps but it is totally inaccurate then you might be better off with gsync or uncapped.
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