Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

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Vocaleyes
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by Vocaleyes » 08 Jun 2022, 18:21

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kokkatc
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by kokkatc » 11 Jun 2022, 02:34

Slender wrote:
04 May 2022, 15:32
it all started with the fact that I noticed that the mouse behaved differently each time it was launched.
Scrolling through the Internet, I found a guide of a person well-known in narrow circles.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/how-t ... e.1750736/
In this guide, he found the reason and the algorithm by which this happens, but the method in his guide does not completely eliminate the problem.
The fact is that it does not matter at all where the keyboard part of the mouse is located, it is only important that it is there.
In order to fix the problem you need.
1) Disable the mouse.
2) Clear the registry of old devices (device cleanup tool).
3) Insert the mouse, go to the device manager directory of your mouse, and disable everything except the mouse driver.
(if the branch cannot be disabled, remove the device that prevents you from doing this, then the branch can be disabled).
4) Go to the mouse directory, and delete the mouse driver (attached screenshoot)
5) Reboot

P.S Zowie mice dont have this issue, only mouse driver, not anymore.
Hi Slender, I hope you can help me out with this. I started resetting the mouse using the method from the link you posted. It works initially but comes back very quickly and the input lag comes back again. I'm having a little bit of trouble comprehending the steps you posted in your method. I have a Razer Viper V2 PRO and it's difficult to compare what I'm seeing to your guide. Can you help? I attached 2 snips. My mouse directory stemming from the usb controller and a snip of my 'Mice and other point devices' directory and keyboard directory. Can you let me know what I'm supposed to disable?

I already cleared devices from the device removal tool.
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Slender
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by Slender » 11 Jun 2022, 03:31

kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 02:34
Slender wrote:
04 May 2022, 15:32
it all started with the fact that I noticed that the mouse behaved differently each time it was launched.
Scrolling through the Internet, I found a guide of a person well-known in narrow circles.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/how-t ... e.1750736/
In this guide, he found the reason and the algorithm by which this happens, but the method in his guide does not completely eliminate the problem.
The fact is that it does not matter at all where the keyboard part of the mouse is located, it is only important that it is there.
In order to fix the problem you need.
1) Disable the mouse.
2) Clear the registry of old devices (device cleanup tool).
3) Insert the mouse, go to the device manager directory of your mouse, and disable everything except the mouse driver.
(if the branch cannot be disabled, remove the device that prevents you from doing this, then the branch can be disabled).
4) Go to the mouse directory, and delete the mouse driver (attached screenshoot)
5) Reboot

P.S Zowie mice dont have this issue, only mouse driver, not anymore.
Hi Slender, I hope you can help me out with this. I started resetting the mouse using the method from the link you posted. It works initially but comes back very quickly and the input lag comes back again. I'm having a little bit of trouble comprehending the steps you posted in your method. I have a Razer Viper V2 PRO and it's difficult to compare what I'm seeing to your guide. Can you help? I attached 2 snips. My mouse directory stemming from the usb controller and a snip of my 'Mice and other point devices' directory and keyboard directory. Can you let me know what I'm supposed to disable?

I already cleared devices from the device removal tool.
ps.. try to uninstall all razer drivers after setting up your mice
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by skkiNN » 11 Jun 2022, 04:53

skkiNN wrote:
08 Jun 2022, 15:56
Vocaleyes wrote:
08 Jun 2022, 15:24
What if there is no option to disable USB input devices?
@Slender please man can u make a video tutorial for doing this fresh mouse install? im missing some steps because of my bad english and im so sure i'm having mouse issues like u described.
Please broskiii @slender help me out :(

Slender
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by Slender » 11 Jun 2022, 09:20

skkiNN wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 04:53
skkiNN wrote:
08 Jun 2022, 15:56
Vocaleyes wrote:
08 Jun 2022, 15:24
What if there is no option to disable USB input devices?
@Slender please man can u make a video tutorial for doing this fresh mouse install? im missing some steps because of my bad english and im so sure i'm having mouse issues like u described.
Please broskiii @slender help me out :(
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kokkatc
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by kokkatc » 11 Jun 2022, 23:01

Slender wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 03:31
kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 02:34
Slender wrote:
04 May 2022, 15:32
it all started with the fact that I noticed that the mouse behaved differently each time it was launched.
Scrolling through the Internet, I found a guide of a person well-known in narrow circles.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/how-t ... e.1750736/
In this guide, he found the reason and the algorithm by which this happens, but the method in his guide does not completely eliminate the problem.
The fact is that it does not matter at all where the keyboard part of the mouse is located, it is only important that it is there.
In order to fix the problem you need.
1) Disable the mouse.
2) Clear the registry of old devices (device cleanup tool).
3) Insert the mouse, go to the device manager directory of your mouse, and disable everything except the mouse driver.
(if the branch cannot be disabled, remove the device that prevents you from doing this, then the branch can be disabled).
4) Go to the mouse directory, and delete the mouse driver (attached screenshoot)
5) Reboot

P.S Zowie mice dont have this issue, only mouse driver, not anymore.
Hi Slender, I hope you can help me out with this. I started resetting the mouse using the method from the link you posted. It works initially but comes back very quickly and the input lag comes back again. I'm having a little bit of trouble comprehending the steps you posted in your method. I have a Razer Viper V2 PRO and it's difficult to compare what I'm seeing to your guide. Can you help? I attached 2 snips. My mouse directory stemming from the usb controller and a snip of my 'Mice and other point devices' directory and keyboard directory. Can you let me know what I'm supposed to disable?

I already cleared devices from the device removal tool.
ps.. try to uninstall all razer drivers after setting up your mice
Hey man. Very much appreciate your response and you taking the time to detail that for me. I'm going to give this a go and report back.

Slender
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by Slender » 11 Jun 2022, 23:19

kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:01
Hey man. Very much appreciate your response and you taking the time to detail that for me. I'm going to give this a go and report back.
you have so much drivers on your mice.
try to use zowie mice, like fk2-c, ec3-c, za11,12,13-c, s2-c.

and send me a screen after apply

kokkatc
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by kokkatc » 12 Jun 2022, 00:39

Slender wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:19
kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:01
Hey man. Very much appreciate your response and you taking the time to detail that for me. I'm going to give this a go and report back.
you have so much drivers on your mice.
try to use zowie mice, like fk2-c, ec3-c, za11,12,13-c, s2-c.

and send me a screen after apply
What a nightmare Razer mouse drivers are but I think I was able to accomplish everything you asked me to do. Check screenshots to confirm. Thanks again!

Note: Turns out the 'Razer Control Device' driver is required to communicate w/ Razer Synapse Software so I can configure my mouse settings so I had to re-enable this one.
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Slender
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by Slender » 12 Jun 2022, 01:01

kokkatc wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 00:39
Slender wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:19
kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:01
Hey man. Very much appreciate your response and you taking the time to detail that for me. I'm going to give this a go and report back.
you have so much drivers on your mice.
try to use zowie mice, like fk2-c, ec3-c, za11,12,13-c, s2-c.

and send me a screen after apply
What a nightmare Razer mouse drivers are but I think I was able to accomplish everything you asked me to do. Check screenshots to confirm. Thanks again!

Note: Turns out the 'Razer Control Device' driver is required to communicate w/ Razer Synapse Software so I can configure my mouse settings so I had to re-enable this one.
all nice, but remove non connected old devices from devicecleanup

kokkatc
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Re: Mouse driver problem -- I have found a way to solve it

Post by kokkatc » 12 Jun 2022, 17:15

Slender wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 01:01
kokkatc wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 00:39
Slender wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:19
kokkatc wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 23:01
Hey man. Very much appreciate your response and you taking the time to detail that for me. I'm going to give this a go and report back.
you have so much drivers on your mice.
try to use zowie mice, like fk2-c, ec3-c, za11,12,13-c, s2-c.

and send me a screen after apply
What a nightmare Razer mouse drivers are but I think I was able to accomplish everything you asked me to do. Check screenshots to confirm. Thanks again!

Note: Turns out the 'Razer Control Device' driver is required to communicate w/ Razer Synapse Software so I can configure my mouse settings so I had to re-enable this one.
all nice, but remove non connected old devices from devicecleanup
Ahhh, thought I did that already. I think when I disabled all of those devices, new 'non-connected old devices' reappeared again. I just cleared it out again. I did make an observation on the keyboards drivers install dates however and wonder if it's a problem. After performing all of the steps and disabling all devices except the mouse driver on my USB controller I noticed one of the keyboard drivers disappeared. I've been looking at the install dates of keyboard drivers and the newest one being today dating 6/12 is no longer under keyboards in device manager. Now all 4 drivers only show the existing date of 6/3 which may have been the original install date.

Is it a problem that the most current keyboard installed driver is no longer under Keyboards in device manager? I attached a snip showing what all HID Keyboard Device driver install dates are. The newest installation dating 6/13 disappeared after a reboot from disabling other usb input drivers on my usb controller.
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