the only benefit from dvi is the 144hz supported thing.patrickisfrench wrote:Is there any benefit to me using this dual link dvi cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=1 ... 1&format=2
over the one that comes with the XL2720Z? enhanced colors? better refresh accuracy? better response times? or am I absolutely fine with stock cable, no difference at all?
XL2720z V2 + BB Strobe Utility = Greatest Gaming Monitor!
Re: XL2720z V2 + BB Strobe Utility = Greatest Gaming Monitor
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Chief, do you know if the upcoming Benq XL2720G will have the same blur reduction that the XL2720Z has along with gsync or no?
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I bought an XL2720z in the store "Netonnet" i Sweden. I checked the production date first and it was "mfg April 2014". Serial starts with ETA4Exxxx. Firmware 2.0
So it seems that April monitors and newer is likly to have 2.0 firmware
So it seems that April monitors and newer is likly to have 2.0 firmware
Re: XL2720z V2 + BB Strobe Utility = Greatest Gaming Monitor
Can someone please tell me where should I download ICC profile for XL2411Z?
And how do I turn it on in W7? I downloaded something, I set everything I could (or maybe not?) and I have it like this now:
(domyślne = default)
but colors are still really, really bad. I changed XL2411T for XL2411Z for the better colors (and 60Hz strobing), but I can see no improvement. In BF4 either I have really washed out image, or I don't see every camper hiding in deep shadows/dark areas. Maybe I didn't swiched the ICC profile properly?
What are your monitor/Nvidia(or AMD) panel/service menu settings?
BTW. I plan to flash V3 firmware to my V1 monitor today. Do I still need to use the "special timings" and resolutions afterwards?
BTW2. Will this monitor work properly in motion at 60Hz after V2/V3 update? Right now the blur reduction at 60Hz looks just terrible. I expect it to be as on Lightboost mode or CRT. Right now it's closer to non-strobed LCDs, and it doesn't even noticeably flicker (and I know it should flicker alot. I know from posts on this forum, that flicer at 60Hz is as bad as on CRT at 60Hz or even a little worse. But in my case - V1 - it almost doesn't flicker at all. That's why I hope for crystal clear image in fast motion at 60Hz, regardless of the mess I've got now, on V1. That's the main reason, besides the colors, I sold my 11T and bought 11Z. I can live with no improvement in colors and black levels, but both - colors and 60Hz (really important for 60fps capped games, like The Crew) - it would render the change a mistake.
And how do I turn it on in W7? I downloaded something, I set everything I could (or maybe not?) and I have it like this now:
(domyślne = default)
but colors are still really, really bad. I changed XL2411T for XL2411Z for the better colors (and 60Hz strobing), but I can see no improvement. In BF4 either I have really washed out image, or I don't see every camper hiding in deep shadows/dark areas. Maybe I didn't swiched the ICC profile properly?
What are your monitor/Nvidia(or AMD) panel/service menu settings?
BTW. I plan to flash V3 firmware to my V1 monitor today. Do I still need to use the "special timings" and resolutions afterwards?
BTW2. Will this monitor work properly in motion at 60Hz after V2/V3 update? Right now the blur reduction at 60Hz looks just terrible. I expect it to be as on Lightboost mode or CRT. Right now it's closer to non-strobed LCDs, and it doesn't even noticeably flicker (and I know it should flicker alot. I know from posts on this forum, that flicer at 60Hz is as bad as on CRT at 60Hz or even a little worse. But in my case - V1 - it almost doesn't flicker at all. That's why I hope for crystal clear image in fast motion at 60Hz, regardless of the mess I've got now, on V1. That's the main reason, besides the colors, I sold my 11T and bought 11Z. I can live with no improvement in colors and black levels, but both - colors and 60Hz (really important for 60fps capped games, like The Crew) - it would render the change a mistake.
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V1 does double strobe at 60hz. I believe the Eizo does the exact same thing. Double strobe is sort of useless.
V2 + does the strobe you want, but you either need to use the checkmark in the blur busters utility to enable 60hz single strobe, or you can enable it in the service menu.
V2 + does the strobe you want, but you either need to use the checkmark in the blur busters utility to enable 60hz single strobe, or you can enable it in the service menu.
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After a few months of use, I've come to the conclusion that the colors on the XL2720Z are absolutely horrible. The picture is way too dark / saturated, no matter what options you mess with (I've tried every gamma/contrast/brightness/color combo out there), and I'm guessing this is a function of the panel that BenQ chose. It's honestly not a realistic option if you're a competitive online FPS gamer as the benefits of motion clarity are far outweighed by the horrid colors resulting in poor target tracking, especially in darker areas.
Re: XL2720z V2 + BB Strobe Utility = Greatest Gaming Monitor
i bought 2411z bec my lg w2363d 120hz died and it was perfect for me.this benq with some calibration can reach decent colors even better with icc profiles, but what make me crazy are some lights and especially sun lights direct or indirect that are always too bright and annoying like hell when i need to look around for enemies or track them with crosshair.no matter the settings even with very low brightness,gamma or whatever combination these lights always are too bright and blinding compared with other colors.maybe im very sensible to this bec i used a good lcd for 6 years with moderate brightness and by nature a led have more bright colors but that's too much for me,after 2 months i still have bad times finding enemies around the maps even in these games where i have more then 700 hours playtime
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I guess there is no single monitor good for online fps gaming now. There is also no single semi-professional graphic monitor (or simply ips) good for gaming even single player I guess (was interested in cx240 but then I have read prad.de response time tests). Am I right? VG248QE has pwm flicker, terrible colors even worse then in Benq, Benq has 10s input lag + this what you were saying, about Acer 144hz one thing we only know that it has very dark (lightboost 2) ULMB and work only for geforce, Eizo fg2421 17s input lag, middle black crash, pixel response time too slow, for online play not good enough, and for Rog Swift PG278Q you have to be ultra rich to have all the hardware needed for 120-144hz (120-144fps) ULMB in its resolution 2560 x 1440 for online play, beside image quality is not much better really and all this without any warranty for defect pixels or etc.SUOrange55 wrote:After a few months of use, I've come to the conclusion that the colors on the XL2720Z are absolutely horrible. The picture is way too dark / saturated, no matter what options you mess with (I've tried every gamma/contrast/brightness/color combo out there), and I'm guessing this is a function of the panel that BenQ chose. It's honestly not a realistic option if you're a competitive online FPS gamer as the benefits of motion clarity are far outweighed by the horrid colors resulting in poor target tracking, especially in darker areas.
To summerize, what sad depressing times gamers currently have but also for other users like graphics who can't enjoy even theirs professional monitors in games where is motion.
I don't know but I think today vsync/gsync tech can't be that great too - on all this monitors which are still having sample-and-hold blur. Only 120-144hz with strobe can give good motion, I'm eagerly waiting for a oled 16:10 with at least 120hz (real) monitor with some strobing/scanning, which will be also good for a professional graphic so everything in one - like in a good times of crt monitors. Maybe with rolling scan like in Oculus Rift.
So producers, please stop producing lcd! :]
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Hi guys, i have been reeding this forum for a long time and today i've received my xl2720z. I pluged it, turned off AMA, turned on blur reduction, installed the blur reduction utility, made the 1350 trick... And i still see an INSANE AMOUNT of crosstalk... Im kinda disapointed with this, i expected A LOT more for a really expensive monitor (i pay the double of its value for importing's fees)
Please help me i really expected more than this...
Sry for my english!
Love!
Please help me i really expected more than this...
Sry for my english!
Love!
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Re: XL2720z V2 + BB Strobe Utility = Greatest Gaming Monitor
What refresh rate?
If you're at 120hz, the 1350 tweak got ignored by the driver because the pixel clock bandwidth exceeds 330.00 mhz.
You need the toastyX Ati or Nvidia pixel clock patcher.
If you're at 100hz, it should work.
I think you should try 1500 VT, but you need different timings to make it work at 120hz (the normal timings will put you at 396(!)MHz pixel clock and cause swimming pixels):
Front porch 48,3
Sync width 32,5
Horizotal/Vertical totals 2080/1500
For 120hz. should be 374 MHz, just low enough to avoid corruption.
if you're just doing 1350 VT, then 88,4 / 44,5 / 2200/1350 still works at 120hz but stilli needs patcher.
For 100hz, you can use the 'defaults' that it usually gives you:
Front porch 88,4
Sync width 44,5
HT/VT 2200/1500.
100hz, Puts you right at 330.00 MHz, works with or without the patcher.
The absolute highest VT that will work is 1502, that would require the patcher (332 MHz bandwidth>330.00).
Once you do any of these changes, set Strobe phase to 000 in the service menu (far left slider in the windows blur busters utility).
If you're at 120hz, the 1350 tweak got ignored by the driver because the pixel clock bandwidth exceeds 330.00 mhz.
You need the toastyX Ati or Nvidia pixel clock patcher.
If you're at 100hz, it should work.
I think you should try 1500 VT, but you need different timings to make it work at 120hz (the normal timings will put you at 396(!)MHz pixel clock and cause swimming pixels):
Front porch 48,3
Sync width 32,5
Horizotal/Vertical totals 2080/1500
For 120hz. should be 374 MHz, just low enough to avoid corruption.
if you're just doing 1350 VT, then 88,4 / 44,5 / 2200/1350 still works at 120hz but stilli needs patcher.
For 100hz, you can use the 'defaults' that it usually gives you:
Front porch 88,4
Sync width 44,5
HT/VT 2200/1500.
100hz, Puts you right at 330.00 MHz, works with or without the patcher.
The absolute highest VT that will work is 1502, that would require the patcher (332 MHz bandwidth>330.00).
Once you do any of these changes, set Strobe phase to 000 in the service menu (far left slider in the windows blur busters utility).