[Solved] Wrong Lod Bias | Jitters (Desync) - Damaged I/O System (Chipsets)

[Slender]

But so far this double cursor is the strangest thing.

There is no point in wasting time explaining in the "off-topic" section. People write any nonsense here and it is not moderated.
And explaining why this happens will take a lot of time. After that, the author of this topic will print 50 posts.
And my efforts will be in vain. Since newcomers will not read the entire topic.

By the way, on your video from the hardware store. The recording has the usual motion blur. And on the first video there are also 2 cursors.
https://youtu.be/RGQ-rSAmZVs
But this has nothing to do with the fact that video capture programs record 2 cursors - hardware and software.


The answers to this question are in the official part of the forum, including the posts of the Сhief Blur Busters.
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im ask my friend, he use 100% scale factor.

This is mysticism bro, I finally believed in the truth. May the creator of this topic forgive me. For everything said earlier.

yes, in the first video there are really two cursors, only the second cursor is created by ghosting. In the second video there are 3 cursors, 1 is real, 2 is fake, 3 is a ghosting cursor.

You can always download Windows 7 and disable DWM, you will have only one cursor, if you think that your input lag is caused by this triple-cursor thing. Also your mouse cursor is ignored in game, in some games you can use raw input.

install w7 and show it

[1000WATT]

You can always download Windows 7 and disable DWM, you will have only one cursor, if you think that your input lag is caused by this triple-cursor thing. Also your mouse cursor is ignored in game, in some games you can use raw input.

This is all clear. kill dwm will remove 1 cursor when recording via capture programs. But it will not remove extra cursors when recording with a camera. People here do not understand that these are different things. And the author of the topic says that 2 cursors mean a damaged computer, motherboard bridge, processor, freesync processor in the monitor and mouse. In general, change everything and if you are lucky, you will have 1 cursor. And if after the purchase there are still 2 of them, then the seller sold you a used, damaged product. And you need to change everything, because, for example, a freesync chip in an old monitor infected with damage will damage the new components that you bought.

[Future]

There is no point in wasting time explaining in the "off-topic" section. People write any nonsense here and it is not moderated.
And explaining why this happens will take a lot of time. After that, the author of this topic will print 50 posts.
And my efforts will be in vain. Since newcomers will not read the entire topic.

By the way, on your video from the hardware store. The recording has the usual motion blur. And on the first video there are also 2 cursors.
https://youtu.be/RGQ-rSAmZVs
But this has nothing to do with the fact that video capture programs record 2 cursors - hardware and software.


The answers to this question are in the official part of the forum, including the posts of the Сhief Blur Busters.
viewtopic.php?t=8040





This is mysticism bro, I finally believed in the truth. May the creator of this topic forgive me. For everything said earlier.

yes, in the first video there are really two cursors, only the second cursor is created by ghosting. In the second video there are 3 cursors, 1 is real, 2 is fake, 3 is a ghosting cursor.

You can always download Windows 7 and disable DWM, you will have only one cursor, if you think that your input lag is caused by this triple-cursor thing. Also your mouse cursor is ignored in game, in some games you can use raw input.

install w7 and show it

I don't have older enough hardware that supports Win7 without additional problems, otherwise I would've shown it myself. You can always buy old second hand pc and test it, in case you have the time for useless experiments that have been tried long ago. But you don't get the point - what can't possibly cause input lag, cannot be part of the solution of an input lag problem. In case you don't run your games in windowed mode of course.

You can always download Windows 7 and disable DWM, you will have only one cursor, if you think that your input lag is caused by this triple-cursor thing. Also your mouse cursor is ignored in game, in some games you can use raw input.

This is all clear. kill dwm will remove 1 cursor when recording via capture programs. But it will not remove extra cursors when recording with a camera. People here do not understand that these are different things. And the author of the topic says that 2 cursors mean a damaged computer, motherboard bridge, processor, freesync processor in the monitor and mouse. In general, change everything and if you are lucky, you will have 1 cursor. And if after the purchase there are still 2 of them, then the seller sold you a used, damaged product. And you need to change everything, because, for example, a freesync chip in an old monitor infected with damage will damage the new components that you bought.

See, that's the problem. There was a guy here, who claimed that air purifier completely fixed his input lag issue. Or air humidifier, I might be wrong. Anyhow, that's possible... even theoretically. Air could make your mouse and keyboard switches sticky, your mouse sensor tricky, static could build up, mouse pad could become draggy. Then the same guy appears out of nowhere and he claims that the author of this thread helped him to solve his input lag problem building new pc.

[1000WATT]

https://youtu.be/QFen8vUAr_A this computer is dead, you can see 2 cursors at once without movement. static desynchronization.

[Tea]

Hi, I also have the same mouse speed problem that most people here have. The most important thing I noticed is that the screen stretching is different in two videos recorded under the same settings. It has become slower than before. It has been about four years. Here are two videos comparing the computer with the problem and the computer without the problem. Can you help me check if my problem is the same as the one you mentioned?
have problem: https://youtu.be/s57J9ajhTG4?si=7HpqayIOa_d6Xw0n
without problem: https://youtu.be/xqMiGXmZdng?si=it6pjo10scIPyhKb

https://youtu.be/JH1PJoYDypA?si=5J0VC0Ph7BHFQZw4&t=36
if you have double mouse on recordings with this technic like in video. So yes, it is same issue.
https://testufo.com/framerates-versus#p ... amerate=48 + dota test will show it too, jitters on 48 fps, and bottom one you cannot read any names on any screens. Both must be smooth and readble, top one will be just slower, but without any jitters.
+ There are more examples in my videos & read article.

Hello, OP, I recorded my other computer and found that there was no "double cursor" problem (https://youtu.be/dt1dsoJ4EcI), which is very suspicious because I am sure that both of my computers have mouse problems, but only the new computer I have been using now does not have the "double cursor" problem. I also want to say that, believe it or not, I found in the Internet cafe that their computers have no mouse problems, everything is very fast and accurate, they use a diskless system, and connect computers through servers and network cables, and most importantly, all their computers use pirated systems! I really want to know the answer

[Slender]

"PCi-express is very electrostatic discharge sensitive. ESD. To prevent ESD sparks damaging the board or the gpu : Please make sure you have proper ESD wristbands and crocodile beaks to connect to the ground plane of the motherboard before placing the gpu. Also complete disconnect the pc from any cable to prevent a ground voltage level elevation effect. You can preferably connect the chassis of the pc which is connected to the GROUND plane of the motherboard through proper ESD cable with (1MegaOhm) to real EARTH (Ground). And then connect your ESD wire connected to your wristband to the Grounded chassis of the pc which of course is also connected to the ground plane of the motherboard. To make sure that the metal parts of the chassis of the pc (the housing, the enclosure) is connected to the groundplane of the motherboard. Use a multimeter. It should be 0 Ohms. Otherwise, connect the ESD wristband and grounding to a ground connection on the motherboard. When placing the gpu , always touch the large metal parts of the gpu, the groundplane. Because that is where the charge will be stored the most as it has the highest surface area. And this way you will level the charge differences between the ground plane of the motherboard and the ground plane of the gpu card out. It takes a second or 2.

Never touch the PCI-express pins as these are ESD sensitive and the PCIexpress pins are impedance tuned during training of the PCI express links. Training is like testing and tuning for making the almost perfect electrical path for the data to pass over to. So, touching these pins may result in ESD damage and therefore reducing PCIexpress performance. PCI express is to a degree fault tolerant and will sent those PCIe datapackages again when CRC is wrong because of datacorruption. And every time a datapacket needs to be resend, is a reduction in useful databandwidth or PCIe bandwidth will happen because now the same packets needs to be send more often instead of only one time for each packet. Think, weird stuttering behavior or lower fps than possbile in almost worst case scenario. Worst case scenario is of course : no image.

One PCIExpress link is in a way a sort of, very fast RS485 line (A differential serial dataline (data+ & data-) and with an OSI layer on top of it. Similar to TCP/IP has CRC checks and USB has CRC checks. USB is also a differential serial link with an osi layer on top of it.

Also make sure the slot is clean an no copper swarfs are present on the pins as these can create short circuits. And burn out the motherboard and gpu.

CRC = "A cyclic redundancy check (CRC) is an error-detecting code commonly used in digital networks and storage devices to detect accidental changes to digital data. Blocks of data entering these systems get a short check value attached, based on the remainder of a polynomial division of their contents. On retrieval, the calculation is repeated and, in the event the check values do not match, corrective action can be taken against data corruption." Like sending the data again after not acknowledging the received corrupt data."

[Future]

"PCi-express is very electrostatic discharge sensitive. ESD. To prevent ESD sparks damaging the board or the gpu : Please make sure you have proper ESD wristbands and crocodile beaks to connect to the ground plane of the motherboard before placing the gpu. Also complete disconnect the pc from any cable to prevent a ground voltage level elevation effect. You can preferably connect the chassis of the pc which is connected to the GROUND plane of the motherboard through proper ESD cable with (1MegaOhm) to real EARTH (Ground). And then connect your ESD wire connected to your wristband to the Grounded chassis of the pc which of course is also connected to the ground plane of the motherboard. To make sure that the metal parts of the chassis of the pc (the housing, the enclosure) is connected to the groundplane of the motherboard. Use a multimeter. It should be 0 Ohms. Otherwise, connect the ESD wristband and grounding to a ground connection on the motherboard. When placing the gpu , always touch the large metal parts of the gpu, the groundplane. Because that is where the charge will be stored the most as it has the highest surface area. And this way you will level the charge differences between the ground plane of the motherboard and the ground plane of the gpu card out. It takes a second or 2.

Never touch the PCI-express pins as these are ESD sensitive and the PCIexpress pins are impedance tuned during training of the PCI express links. Training is like testing and tuning for making the almost perfect electrical path for the data to pass over to. So, touching these pins may result in ESD damage and therefore reducing PCIexpress performance. PCI express is to a degree fault tolerant and will sent those PCIe datapackages again when CRC is wrong because of datacorruption. And every time a datapacket needs to be resend, is a reduction in useful databandwidth or PCIe bandwidth will happen because now the same packets needs to be send more often instead of only one time for each packet. Think, weird stuttering behavior or lower fps than possbile in almost worst case scenario. Worst case scenario is of course : no image.

One PCIExpress link is in a way a sort of, very fast RS485 line (A differential serial dataline (data+ & data-) and with an OSI layer on top of it. Similar to TCP/IP has CRC checks and USB has CRC checks. USB is also a differential serial link with an osi layer on top of it.

Also make sure the slot is clean an no copper swarfs are present on the pins as these can create short circuits. And burn out the motherboard and gpu.

CRC = "A cyclic redundancy check (CRC) is an error-detecting code commonly used in digital networks and storage devices to detect accidental changes to digital data. Blocks of data entering these systems get a short check value attached, based on the remainder of a polynomial division of their contents. On retrieval, the calculation is repeated and, in the event the check values do not match, corrective action can be taken against data corruption." Like sending the data again after not acknowledging the received corrupt data."

Okay, but how is that related to "I have input lag in games, feels like I'm dragging my mouse through mud"? In case something like that happens, you will not feel only input lag, your system would be broken, like it won't be useable at all.

[texre]

I don’t know how I can help but I definitely want to help. My gaming experience the last 2 months have been so amazing. Building this pc all I can remember me saying in my head “this zdcross guy is full of it” then my first load up of windows it was so different looking ik something was either right or wrong. But my games are super consistent I get better everyday now. If you guys want help or clips or anything let me know. And zdcross I seriously can’t thank you enough lol I need to send gift.

[Slender]

I don’t know how I can help but I definitely want to help. My gaming experience the last 2 months have been so amazing. Building this pc all I can remember me saying in my head “this zdcross guy is full of it” then my first load up of windows it was so different looking ik something was either right or wrong. But my games are super consistent I get better everyday now. If you guys want help or clips or anything let me know. And zdcross I seriously can’t thank you enough lol I need to send gift.

nice to hear that on this forum
if you want help, make a more video how you play, that is best evidence.
like, balistics

[Future]

I don’t know how I can help but I definitely want to help. My gaming experience the last 2 months have been so amazing. Building this pc all I can remember me saying in my head “this zdcross guy is full of it” then my first load up of windows it was so different looking ik something was either right or wrong. But my games are super consistent I get better everyday now. If you guys want help or clips or anything let me know. And zdcross I seriously can’t thank you enough lol I need to send gift.

Can you please write down your old pc's specs and your new one? Have you changed your monitor and peripherals or you still use them?
Yes, please upload videos of your gameplay from your old pc and the new one so we could make a comparison between both.

I don’t know how I can help but I definitely want to help. My gaming experience the last 2 months have been so amazing. Building this pc all I can remember me saying in my head “this zdcross guy is full of it” then my first load up of windows it was so different looking ik something was either right or wrong. But my games are super consistent I get better everyday now. If you guys want help or clips or anything let me know. And zdcross I seriously can’t thank you enough lol I need to send gift.

nice to hear that on this forum
if you want help, make a more video how you play, that is best evidence.
like, balistics

The best evidence would be a video from his old system where he claims had input latency issues and the new one where he claims it's all fixed. Otherwise it's only perception and who knows, maybe he didn't have an issue at first place?