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Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 10 Jan 2018, 23:45
by open
At this point I am just a hopeless fanboy for my PG258Q. So I noticed they are using it for the overwatch league. Clearly they picked the best 240hz monitor.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2018, 08:39
by DevinGil
opern wrote:At this point I am just a hopeless fanboy for my PG258Q. So I noticed that male extra works they are using it for the overwatch league. Clearly they picked the best 240hz monitor.


I didn't notice this! Are they using it on all the computers or is it player specific? I mean to check out the Overwatch League kick off but I was too bussy. I like how professional the production seems to be judging by a clip I've seen.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2018, 17:44
by Chief Blur Buster
Thanks for letting us know about this.

Very interesting to see them adopting 240Hz at this scale.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2018, 22:48
by open
For the preseason I remember them using something else. I wish I could pick their brains as to why they picked these. Off the top of my head I would say It is due to the pg258q being one of the brightest options. And also because of the limited 27" 240hz options. And also as a normalizing factor as most of the players have probably been using 24" monitors. And also the good pixel response times.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 04:29
by lexlazootin
Because Asus gave them monitors probably.

It would of made more sense to get Acers since they are cheaper but they probably got a deal.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 06:47
by mello
lexlazootin wrote:Because Asus gave them monitors probably.


This exactly. Event sponsors always provide everything, same goes for players and their teams. Sometimes players are forced to use certain gaming gear, not because it is the best, but because they have obligations to their sponsors.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 08:46
by dadduu
mello wrote:
lexlazootin wrote:Because Asus gave them monitors probably.


This exactly. Event sponsors always provide everything, same goes for players and their teams. Sometimes players are forced to use certain gaming gear, not because it is the best, but because they have obligations to their sponsors.


Apart from that i truly think players themself pushed the org to have 240HZs in this event to play the game at the best. We talking about Overwatch, and such a monitor makes a lot of difference compared to 144hz, which could be already obsolete for those kind of players that percfecly know/see/feel the differences.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 11:08
by mello
dadduu wrote:Apart from that i truly think players themself pushed the org to have 240HZs in this event to play the game at the best. We talking about Overwatch, and such a monitor makes a lot of difference compared to 144hz, which could be already obsolete for those kind of players that percfecly know/see/feel the differences.


Except that they actually dont... let me explain. Playing at a pro level means your skills (reflex, aiming, timing and decision making) are elite, it doesn't automatically mean that you see, feel or know the difference as far as gaming gear and monitors are concerned. And when the playing field is equal, then it doesn't really matter if they play at 240Hz or at 144Hz, as long as everyone is using exactly the same refresh rate. They are using 240Hz because currently these are the best monitors for eSports and Gaming and are advertised as such. For Overwatch, 240Hz will benefit mostly fast and mobile heroes like Genji or Tracer and maybe few others, and of course everyone will enjoy a slight input lag reduction and increased smoothness in comparison to 144Hz refresh rate.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 13:23
by sharknice
lexlazootin wrote:Because Asus gave them monitors probably.

It would of made more sense to get Acers since they are cheaper but they probably got a deal.


Maybe Asus gave them to them, but they could have easily bought them. They spared no expense. They have aeron chairs and every piece of equipment is extremely high end.
They probably spent a million dollars on just the stage. The entire thing is custom made completely covered in screens and looks amazing in action.

Re: Overwatch League Using PG258Q

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2018, 16:08
by Chief Blur Buster
dadduu wrote:Apart from that i truly think players themself pushed the org to have 240HZs in this event to play the game at the best. We talking about Overwatch, and such a monitor makes a lot of difference compared to 144hz, which could be already obsolete for those kind of players that percfecly know/see/feel the differences.

This!

240Hz monitors generally have the best eSports performance now, any other complaints nonwithstanding.

While the MIN lag does not go appreciably lower, the tighter MIN/MAX/AVG ranges means aiming is more powerfully accurate. Depending on the game, lag fluctuations are sometimes more evil than absolute lowest "MIN" lag. The real-world lag-randomization range is one refresh cycle for VSYNC OFF, even for frame rates far in excess of refresh rates.

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No matter what settings (VSYNC OFF versus GSYNC, etc), the lag fluctuation range (MIN/AVG/MAX) is reliably tighter at 240Hz.

Compare 1000fps VSYNC OFF apples-vs-apples.

But -- look closer -- even VSYNC OFF 1000fps at 60Hz has more lag randomness (MIN/MAX = 14/27 = 13ms lag randomness) than VSYNC OFF 238fps at 240Hz (MIN/MAX = 12/18 = 6ms lag randomness). One cannot deny the low-scanout-lag advantage of a higher refresh rate, at virtually any frame rate.

Real world game. Not synthetic lag tests.

This makes a big difference in aimfeel by well-honed players during eSports. There may be imperfections in certain 240Hz monitors but the competitive advantage outweighs all.

More frame rate reduces lag.
More refresh rate reduces lag.
Having more of both is best of both worlds for eSports.
Bring on the 1000Hz gaming displays ASAP (prediction: 2025)
--> Share this link to monitor manufacturers please. I have done so to a few I booked appointments with at CES 2018 <--

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