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Re: Alienware AW2523HF announced

Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 13:04
by kyube
Discorz wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 03:52
kyube wrote:
06 Oct 2022, 16:32
Source: r/monitors discord, member DCBF_GGoki
Thanks for posting. Looks to be same as concurent 360 IPS panels but can't know for sure (M250HAN03.0, although there are M250HAN03.2, M250HAN03.3 in existence)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comme ... _measured/

A few UFOs here too.
It does seem like it's the usual 360hz IPS panel and tuning we already know of, yeah.

Re: Alienware AW2523HF announced

Posted: 13 Oct 2022, 12:32
by drmcninja
Can someone explain what the chart means? What is 0 to 255 measuring? Colors?

So this means response time is 4-5ms with G-Sync On and ~2ms with G-Sync Off?

What does that little green area in the GTG for G-Sync On, OD Extreme correspond to?

Re: Alienware AW2523HF announced

Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 02:08
by Discorz
drmcninja wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 12:32
Can someone explain what the chart means?
It can be quite confusing to understand at first. Even if u do understand, the chart information is sometimes useless. For now I'd recommend to stick with the UFO pictures as they translate the blur more realistically.

Basically given charts show how panel behaves when switching between combinations of grey colors (pixel response times/grey-to-grey/GtG) which tells u how much ghosting/trailing/smearing and overshoot there is (behind or throughout the ufo). And it tells only that. The overall motion sharpness (motion picture response time, MPRT) or clarity of the ufo can not be read out from these charts. We could say the two blend together. You could take my animated profile picture as example of what I meant.

Re: Alienware AW2523HF announced

Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 09:33
by drmcninja
So just enabling G-Sync changes response time from ~2ms to 4.5 to 5.0ms ?

Re: Alienware AW2523HF announced

Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 13:12
by Discorz
drmcninja wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 09:33
So just enabling G-Sync changes response time from ~2ms to 4.5 to 5.0ms ?
Pixel overdrive is what defines response times. In some cases like here, monitor applies different overdrive for VRR off vs on situations. Higher the overdrive gain, faster the response time. Too much overdrive results in overshoot which on testufo looks like white trailing/corona/inverse ghosting. U can see it on "VRR OFF Extreme and Super Fast" shots. For some people high overshoot is distracting and usually avoided. Its up to you basically.

To quickly explain each chart here is one transition for reference.
1st chart shows partial response time (num 0-1, but most reviewers apply high tolerances and do not do gamma correction which cuts off significant amount of response curve, so its not full time between 0-1).
2nd chart shows full response time (num 0-4 - includes overshoot time, usually most useful chart).
3rd chart shows amount of overshoot in percentage (num 3, if not gamma corrected data is distorted, but perhaps we should discuss this in another thread...).