ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by evmadic » 20 Dec 2023, 13:21

Inco^ wrote:
18 Dec 2023, 14:54
evmadic wrote:
18 Dec 2023, 12:32
forcedreg wrote:
18 Dec 2023, 05:57
gab848 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 01:52
You'll still need the newest version of Windows 11 23H2
I would run it at 500 hz in W10, extra 40 Hz is not worth the disadvantages of W11 in my opinion. I wonder if Microsoft considers fixing it for W10 when these monitors get more popular.
Any idea if the monitor offers a 500hz option or would we need to use CRU?
It does offer 500 Hz.
540 Hz, 500 Hz, 480 Hz, 240 Hz, 120 Hz, 60 Hz are options in NVCP.
Thanks for this
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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by gbmaster » 22 Dec 2023, 06:19

just a quick question, is there any downside to using ULMB2 in terms of input lag / response times?

bought the monitor this week and happy with it so far

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Boop » 22 Dec 2023, 06:46

gbmaster wrote:
22 Dec 2023, 06:19
just a quick question, is there any downside to using ULMB2 in terms of input lag / response times?

bought the monitor this week and happy with it so far
Use the Reflex Analyzer built into the monitor to see if there's a latency difference.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by masneb » 01 Jan 2024, 02:13

As a side note to tweaking here, make sure you turn on wide gamut, makes the monitor not look nearly as washed out.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by masneb » 07 Jan 2024, 13:00

To anyone else that owns this monitor, is motion clarity better at 240hz? For some strange reason when things get really fast paced in OW2, it's easier to track everything at 240hz. It's like the monitor gets hazy or blurry at 480-540hz in very fast paced sequences. ULMB doesn't seem to matter.

Starting to think I have a bad panel.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by gab848 » 07 Jan 2024, 14:59

daviddave1 wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 16:28
gab848 wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 04:43
daviddave1 wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 14:25
gab848 wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 08:15

So, I just got this Monitor. It seems black bars is not possible on it? Also the eSports ratio is broken you get black bars but the screen is not aligned properly to the menu of the games. I should've done my research. Custom resolution doesn't work, black bars don't work, eSports ratio doesn't work properly and no sharpness setting in the OSD. Such a shame, otherwise the Monitor would be absolutely amazing. I think I will return it and keep my XL2566K. Can this Monitor do black bars? PG27AQN. When you switch to eSports Mode 25 inch. Does it do black bars on this mode? Can you create custom resolutions at 360Hz ULMB 2.0 On? Thanks to anyone taking the time to answer my questions.
daviddave1 wrote:
30 Nov 2023, 05:56

Keep in mind the screen is full so no black bars. Either with the ASUS menu Aspect Control on Full or Aspect Control on Aspect. Not sure if thats helpfull but just for info.
I did share the info on the lack of a blackbar option here in this topic. Your prob. read over it
See the quote just above this sentence.

I am not sure the PG27AQN needs DSB with the 25" inch mode 360Hz I think it does. So that's prob. no custom resolution with black bars on that setting.
Keep in mind the PG27AQN gets arround 100! nits darker then the XL2566K Dyac with ULMB2 on. It's was a very dark screen in my opinion with ULMB2 on. Unplayable even.
I would keep the XL2566K in any way over the PG27AQN if you like competitive play.
Ok, so I want to ask you again. Can you get black bars on any resolution? There is the option in the Monitor Aspect Control - eSports Pro Mode that provides 4 resolutions for black bars. But when this is used the in-game menu alignment is way off. My friend apparently can get black bars without this option. Using 5800x, RTX 4080. Can you try to get black bars on res such as 1024 x 768 or 1440 x 1080 or 1480 x 1080. When you use the eSports Pro Mode is the alignment fine to the in-game menu's? Thanks for your help. I'm just really confused how he can get black bars without even using this "eSports Pro Mode" aspect ratio...
WAIT YOU COULD BE ON TO SOMETHING HERE. Apologies about my statement that blackbars are not available on this monitor. Will edit that out.
I just tested it with Quake Champions but the menu acted weird could not move my cursor over the correct object. Got stuck. I then switched to Apex Legends. In the menu of APEX i choose 1024x768 AND in the monitor menu i Choose 1024x768 Under Image, Aspect Control, Esports Pro mode, Res 1024x768. U get black bars on all sides then. UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT. Screen looks good also. Menu works good.

Apex Legends example: Image

If u choose Aspect instead of ESPORTS Pro Mode 1024x768 U ASLO Get bars in Apex Legends but just on top and side

Example : Image
Screen looks a little blocky though and streched. Menu works good.

1440x1080 is only accessible if you put the monitor in Aspect mode. ( so 1440x1080 in Apex Legends and monitor in Aspect mode.) Image

Black Bars top and bottom, Screen looks good. Menu works good.

In Apex legends no problems in the menu. I am checking Quake Champions again right now..

Ok I re-cecked Quake Champions 1024x768 Image black bars only on left and right with e-sports mode 1024x768 menu seems to work now.

On 1440x 1080 in menu of QC and Aspect in menu monitor THERE ARE NO BLACK BARS at all in Quake Champions! That's pretty weird. Image

Menu seems good.
So, after extensive testing side by side with the Zowie XL2566K. The ASUS ROG Swift Pro PG248QP is a much better monitor. The colours are far superior. Especially when you turn Wide Gamut On and change colour depth to 12 BPC. And if you do the colour calibration for it, it blows Zowie out of the water, but even the default calibration is fantastic. Zowie can only do 8 BPC, even the new model releases of ZOWIE XL2546X (240Hz Dyac 2) & XL2586X (540Hz Dyac 2). The Monitor is extremely smooth, even when playing games where the engines have a FPS cap limit where the FPS is way below 540 FPS. No screen tearing, smooth as butter. It also has outstanding input lag and close to no ghosting or trailing dependent on the Overdrive setting being used obviously. Much better in terms of input lag and ghosting than the Zowie XL2566K. I have also found an alternative way of how to get black bars without using the eSports mode on the OSD. NVIDIA Control Panel -> Adjust Desktop Size and Position -> Aspect Ratio -> Perform Scaling on Display -> Tick Override the scaling mode set by games and programs. Now the few "downsides" that it has. You cannot create custom resolutions when using 540Hz but this is due to NVIDIA drivers not the Monitor itself, so perhaps in the future it'll be fixed and we might get 540Hz option in Windows 10 Pro, long shot but possible. When using a popular resolution for eSports games such as 1440 x 1080p black bars you can only do 480Hz. It doesn't have some crucial features which it should have considering it's being marketed as "The best eSports gaming Monitor". No Sharpness in the OSD, no Black Equalizer in the OSD (there is Dark Boost - Off, Level 1-3) which is not even close to Zowie's Black Equalizer. Also, when using Motion Blur NVIDIA ULMB 2, the Overdrive setting is disabled and ULMB 2 can be used from 360Hz and above only. As far as the build quality goes, it's pretty average especially for such a high price tag, but the QC as far as dead pixels go isn't as bad as Zowie's Monitors. Also when using ULMB 2 sometimes it turns itself off when you minimize and maximize games and the fact that you can't change the Overdrive (OD) setting when using ULMB 2 isn't ideal either. The goal of this short review is to help people decide whether to buy this Monitor or not. I'm personally curious about the Zowie XL2586X (540Hz), it will have a colour depth of only 8 BPC and it won't be able to do custom resolutions either at 540Hz, not until NVIDIA release other drivers.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 07 Jan 2024, 15:21

gab848 wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 14:59
daviddave1 wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 16:28
gab848 wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 04:43
daviddave1 wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 14:25




I did share the info on the lack of a blackbar option here in this topic. Your prob. read over it
See the quote just above this sentence.

I am not sure the PG27AQN needs DSB with the 25" inch mode 360Hz I think it does. So that's prob. no custom resolution with black bars on that setting.
Keep in mind the PG27AQN gets arround 100! nits darker then the XL2566K Dyac with ULMB2 on. It's was a very dark screen in my opinion with ULMB2 on. Unplayable even.
I would keep the XL2566K in any way over the PG27AQN if you like competitive play.
Ok, so I want to ask you again. Can you get black bars on any resolution? There is the option in the Monitor Aspect Control - eSports Pro Mode that provides 4 resolutions for black bars. But when this is used the in-game menu alignment is way off. My friend apparently can get black bars without this option. Using 5800x, RTX 4080. Can you try to get black bars on res such as 1024 x 768 or 1440 x 1080 or 1480 x 1080. When you use the eSports Pro Mode is the alignment fine to the in-game menu's? Thanks for your help. I'm just really confused how he can get black bars without even using this "eSports Pro Mode" aspect ratio...
WAIT YOU COULD BE ON TO SOMETHING HERE. Apologies about my statement that blackbars are not available on this monitor. Will edit that out.
I just tested it with Quake Champions but the menu acted weird could not move my cursor over the correct object. Got stuck. I then switched to Apex Legends. In the menu of APEX i choose 1024x768 AND in the monitor menu i Choose 1024x768 Under Image, Aspect Control, Esports Pro mode, Res 1024x768. U get black bars on all sides then. UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT. Screen looks good also. Menu works good.

Apex Legends example: Image

If u choose Aspect instead of ESPORTS Pro Mode 1024x768 U ASLO Get bars in Apex Legends but just on top and side

Example : Image
Screen looks a little blocky though and streched. Menu works good.

1440x1080 is only accessible if you put the monitor in Aspect mode. ( so 1440x1080 in Apex Legends and monitor in Aspect mode.) Image

Black Bars top and bottom, Screen looks good. Menu works good.

In Apex legends no problems in the menu. I am checking Quake Champions again right now..

Ok I re-cecked Quake Champions 1024x768 Image black bars only on left and right with e-sports mode 1024x768 menu seems to work now.

On 1440x 1080 in menu of QC and Aspect in menu monitor THERE ARE NO BLACK BARS at all in Quake Champions! That's pretty weird. Image

Menu seems good.
So, after extensive testing side by side with the Zowie XL2566K. The ASUS ROG Swift Pro PG248QP is a much better monitor. The colours are far superior. Especially when you turn Wide Gamut On and change colour depth to 12 BPC. And if you do the colour calibration for it, it blows Zowie out of the water, but even the default calibration is fantastic. Zowie can only do 8 BPC, even the new model releases of ZOWIE XL2546X (240Hz Dyac 2) & XL2586X (540Hz Dyac 2). The Monitor is extremely smooth, even when playing games where the engines have a FPS cap limit where the FPS is way below 540 FPS. No screen tearing, smooth as butter. It also has outstanding input lag and close to no ghosting or trailing dependent on the Overdrive setting being used obviously. Much better in terms of input lag and ghosting than the Zowie XL2566K. I have also found an alternative way of how to get black bars without using the eSports mode on the OSD. NVIDIA Control Panel -> Adjust Desktop Size and Position -> Aspect Ratio -> Perform Scaling on Display -> Tick Override the scaling mode set by games and programs. Now the few "downsides" that it has. You cannot create custom resolutions when using 540Hz but this is due to NVIDIA drivers not the Monitor itself, so perhaps in the future it'll be fixed and we might get 540Hz option in Windows 10 Pro, long shot but possible. When using a popular resolution for eSports games such as 1440 x 1080p black bars you can only do 480Hz. It doesn't have some crucial features which it should have considering it's being marketed as "The best eSports gaming Monitor". No Sharpness in the OSD, no Black Equalizer in the OSD (there is Dark Boost - Off, Level 1-3) which is not even close to Zowie's Black Equalizer. Also, when using Motion Blur NVIDIA ULMB 2, the Overdrive setting is disabled and ULMB 2 can be used from 360Hz and above only. As far as the build quality goes, it's pretty average especially for such a high price tag, but the QC as far as dead pixels go isn't as bad as Zowie's Monitors. Also when using ULMB 2 sometimes it turns itself off when you minimize and maximize games and the fact that you can't change the Overdrive (OD) setting when using ULMB 2 isn't ideal either. The goal of this short review is to help people decide whether to buy this Monitor or not. I'm personally curious about the Zowie XL2586X (540Hz), it will have a colour depth of only 8 BPC and it won't be able to do custom resolutions either at 540Hz, not until NVIDIA release other drivers.
Nice summary! tnx for sharing. I uploaded the ICC profile from TFT central.
The TFTCentral ICC profile makes a pretty big difference imo. Make sure to select reference mode in NVIDIA ctrl panel at colors and to select the ICC profile in the Windows settings of the monitor.
https://we.tl/t-ymniSVe4UW ( u can also dl it from tft but u need a 1 $ patreon account to do so)

From the downloadpage of tftcentral also the following additional info:

Preset mode: Racing
Notes incl. Gamma: Gamma 2.4. Gamut wide
Brightness: 20
Contrast: 50
R:100
G:100
B: 98
( I changed the settings to gamma 2.2 and played with the colors some more. But its a good start.)
| Now: ASUS PG248QP 540Hz. | Past : VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by masneb » 08 Jan 2024, 03:42

masneb wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 13:00
To anyone else that owns this monitor, is motion clarity better at 240hz? For some strange reason when things get really fast paced in OW2, it's easier to track everything at 240hz. It's like the monitor gets hazy or blurry at 480-540hz in very fast paced sequences. ULMB doesn't seem to matter.

Starting to think I have a bad panel.
Anyone? Give this a shot. See if motion clarity improves in fast paced action at 240hz instead of 480-540.

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by daviddave1 » 08 Jan 2024, 04:04

masneb wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 13:00
To anyone else that owns this monitor, is motion clarity better at 240hz? For some strange reason when things get really fast paced in OW2, it's easier to track everything at 240hz. It's like the monitor gets hazy or blurry at 480-540hz in very fast paced sequences. ULMB doesn't seem to matter.

Starting to think I have a bad panel.
prob not gonna help but make sure to install the driver of the monitor form the website of ASUS in the windows settings of the monitor.
| Now: ASUS PG248QP 540Hz. | Past : VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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Re: ASUS ROG Swift 500Hz Announced!

Post by Boop » 09 Jan 2024, 20:39

I wonder if this display will be updated to support G-Sync Pulsar (ULMB + GSYNC at the same time). Maybe it will be made available via a firmware update or Nvidia driver release.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/ne ... g-monitor/

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