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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby BattleAxeVR » 13 Sep 2018, 16:34

I think I'll wait for the reviews to come in, I want the absolute best Ti model possible, for eventual SLI'ing if the RAM is doubled of course.

One thing I found annoying while looking at all the vendors' options, is that the only one that has two HDMI 2.0b outputs is the Asus 2080 non-Ti.

So I ordered a DP 1.4 to HDMI 2.0b adapter given that all the rest have 3 displayport outputs and DP 1.4 is superior to HDMI 2.0b in terms of bandwidth, but I worry about there being any lag differential between the output ports. Say, for VR headsets like StarVR One that use dual HDMI connectors, one for each screen. I need them to be perfectly synced. I recall the non-commercial version of the StarBreeze headset having dual HDMI 1.4 connectors and having to use a DP-to-HDMI adapter, but it was still annoying. I don't see myself ever needing triple monitor setups, and actually I think DisplayPort might die as a standard once HDMI 2.1 comes out, which is far superior. Time will tell I guess. I just think a 35 inch 21:9 4K monitor is enough desktop real-estate for coding on, and don't really see myself doing triple monitors in that setup. Dual monitors, maybe, but I'd rather have two HDMI 2.0b and two DisplayPort 1.4 than 1 / 3. I guess I'm in the minority here. If VirtualLink takes off none of this matters, really.

I also got a Gigabyte motherboard for my new AMD Treadripper 2 workstation so I kind of like the idea of sticking to Gigabyte for the videocards too. They have that cool up / down / up fan config which makes sense to me as an engineer:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/ ... NG-OC-11GC

One thing I regret is only buying a 1200 watt power supply. I think I'll need 2000 Watt to be safe with SLI'd 2080 Tis and the 800 watts that an AMD 32-core workstation overclocked to 4.2 ghz takes.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby lossofmercy » 15 Sep 2018, 13:12

You are absolutely insane man, but more power to you.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby darzo » 15 Sep 2018, 16:40

It's in his line of work.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby mello » 16 Sep 2018, 05:42

There are some leaks already:

https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-gef ... e-unveiled
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIdTXc ... v3A/videos (6 videos so far)

Nothing special or mindblowing...just a steady progress as expected. But still, i am more interested how is the performance at 1080p and 1440p. 4k gaming at high fps 90+ or 144-200fps is still at least 1-2 gens away.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby darzo » 16 Sep 2018, 17:51

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx ... -official/

50% is not what some were expecting, without DLSS.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby open » 16 Sep 2018, 18:58

I would wait. The benchmarks from that video show anywhere from a couple percent increase to 263% increase. With most results falling into either the 50% or 20% region. The results from wccf seem like they are from an official nvidia reviewing guide according to the text at the top. They are all sitting around 50% increase for the 2080ti over the 1080ti.

If you watch or read any one of the turing "deep dive" breakdowns posted all over the internet at this point they go into more detail at the architecture changes between pascal and turing and it starts to look optimistic that they will pull over their core*clock ratio. This will be especially true given driver optimization and for games that use heavy int operations on the gpu.

But still the video is just all over the place. The benchmarks that were only a few percent better were likely bottlenecked by the cpu. and the benchmarks that were 260% better well I don't even know what to say about that. Good job nvidia if it is true.

And we should refrain from quoting the nvidia reviewer guide even if it is the most likely to be accurate. There is a reason we want to go with multiple 3rd party benchmarks. Also waiting for the last minute driver updates will be wise.

4-5 days from now we should start to get a final picture. These results are still interesting though.

Good job though darzo it looks like the first guess you posted of about 40-50% increase was very close to what we are seeing here.
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby darzo » 18 Sep 2018, 02:11

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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby open » 19 Sep 2018, 09:56

Yeah here we MAY be hitting it. The end of significant performance/price ratio gains to consumers. Although this is an extreme example, we are seeing a worsening trend across all areas. Some of it is just companies realizing they can abuse consumers. But in general we need something big to happen. Some big breakthrough in manufacturing. And it doesn't look bright. Companies are already struggling to meet their roadmaps and dropping out of the cutting edge due to inability to keep up with economy of scale.

The only thing that looks good to me is navi. Hope amd can pull it off. Hope next time nvidia think about the big picture implications of their tech. Ray tracing is very expensive and we need general efficiency gains from architecture more and more to pick up the slack from manufacturing difficulties.

But hey maybe rtx does better than the forbes article. I still want to see my chosen benchmarkers go to town. Will find out soon
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby darzo » 19 Sep 2018, 15:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtQyyqqFZzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrpsv0QIR0
https://www.game-debate.com/news/25796/ ... ew-rundown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8KtOAw6HnI

Looks like a disaster. Didn't know lower resolutions would apparently be getting bottlenecked too. I really fucked up buying the 4k 144hz monitor, and the higher refresh rate monitors at lower resolution don't seem to benefit much either. This is terrible. Drivers? What the fuck is Nvidia doing?
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Re: Nvidia GPU GTX 20XX Series likely revealed @ Gamescom 20

Postby RealNC » 19 Sep 2018, 16:13

There is no perf advantage per dollar at all with the new GPUs. They're just hoping RT and DLSS is going to be the selling point. And they're gonna market that like no tomorrow.

We're seeing increasingly negative effects due to lack of competition. I think the majority of people will still be on 1060s and 970s (the vast majority of PC gamers use one of those GPUs,) so games will most probably keep targeting those.
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