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Re: What should the test look like?

PostPosted: 05 Oct 2017, 09:26
by VinnyM
Chief Blur Buster wrote:Did you have very good, smooth looking 144Hz before? Most of the "I had smooth 144Hz before but now I have stuttery 144Hz" problems tends to get fixed via a refresh software redo of the system.

Did you try:
-- Uninstall and reinstall graphics drivers? (don't just reinstall -- do a full uninstall first)
-- Reinstall the OS?

Also, accidental changes to detail levels can add to stuttering. If this is a possible cause, you may want to turn off all AA and use factory default graphics-detail settings, to get closer to what you used to have before at the same refresh rate. Many settings, including shader settings, shadow settings, AA settings, view-distance settings, can all add to increased stutters. You might have some kind of a framepacing issue. The same frame rate can be much more stuttery if it has very bad frame pacing.

Long-term, you might also want to consider a VRR monitor (G-SYNC or FreeSync) -- since variable refresh rate is much more forgiving of certain kinds of frame pacing issues (as long as gametime and frame visiblity time stays in sync, the pacing can be even random as long as it's synchronous between the game and refresh cycles -- and stutter is still hidden by the variable refresh rate nature)


-Yes I've uninstalled my graphic drivers using DDU.
-First thing that I've tried was reinstall the OS.
Well, there's no way to solve these frame pacing issues without using any kind of sync? The G2460PF is a freesync monitor, but I got NVidia GPU.
The thing is that I used to play 144hz smooth as silk, about the settings, I've tried almost all, (I used to have "Balanced" on nvidia control painel, tried that too, but didnt help)
You think that maybe my gpu is causing that? Since the framerates test / HZ test are OK (hz test show 143.9998 but I dont think that's the problem, right?)
I'm kind desperately trying to find a reason to this,
There's anything that I can do to help you understand my problem better?

Re: What should the test look like?

PostPosted: 05 Oct 2017, 13:32
by Chief Blur Buster
VinnyM wrote:Well, there's no way to solve these frame pacing issues without using any kind of sync? The G2460PF is a freesync monitor, but I got NVidia GPU. The thing is that I used to play 144hz smooth as silk, about the settings, I've tried almost all, (I used to have "Balanced" on nvidia control painel, tried that too, but didnt help)

(A) Can you test http://www.testufo.com/frameskipping again at all refresh rates (60Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz and 144Hz).
I'm trying to cover all bases, leave no stone unturned, just in case the game is switching refresh rates (different from desktop), and only one refresh rate is frameskipping. Ideally, I'd like you to post a photograph of each refresh rate, but 144Hz will do.

(B) Did you ever fiddle with a Custom Resolution Utility before? Try uninstalling all changes.
(e.g. If you tried ToastyX CRU.exe, try running the "reset-all.exe" utility to uninstall the settings you changed via CRU.)

(C) Failing the above;
-- Can you also turn on/off FreeSync via the monitor menus?
-- Can you reset monitor to factory defaults?
-- Try unplug-and-replug (that sometimes made a difference for a different kind of problem; it cleared a corrupted picture setting on certain monitors that was being kept in a sort of RAM).
There might be some bug-triggering behaviour, e.g. switching GPUs from a FreeSync to a non-FreeSync GPU, and the monitor is still remembering the old FreeSync GPU. This probably isn't it, I'm currently just guessing at longshot-fixes.

Let me know what you find out.

Re: What should the test look like?

PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 15:19
by VinnyM
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
VinnyM wrote:Well, there's no way to solve these frame pacing issues without using any kind of sync? The G2460PF is a freesync monitor, but I got NVidia GPU. The thing is that I used to play 144hz smooth as silk, about the settings, I've tried almost all, (I used to have "Balanced" on nvidia control painel, tried that too, but didnt help)

(A) Can you test http://www.testufo.com/frameskipping again at all refresh rates (60Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz and 144Hz).
I'm trying to cover all bases, leave no stone unturned, just in case the game is switching refresh rates (different from desktop), and only one refresh rate is frameskipping. Ideally, I'd like you to post a photograph of each refresh rate, but 144Hz will do.

(B) Did you ever fiddle with a Custom Resolution Utility before? Try uninstalling all changes.
(e.g. If you tried ToastyX CRU.exe, try running the "reset-all.exe" utility to uninstall the settings you changed via CRU.)

(C) Failing the above;
-- Can you also turn on/off FreeSync via the monitor menus?
-- Can you reset monitor to factory defaults?
-- Try unplug-and-replug (that sometimes made a difference for a different kind of problem; it cleared a corrupted picture setting on certain monitors that was being kept in a sort of RAM).
There might be some bug-triggering behaviour, e.g. switching GPUs from a FreeSync to a non-FreeSync GPU, and the monitor is still remembering the old FreeSync GPU. This probably isn't it, I'm currently just guessing at longshot-fixes.

Let me know what you find out.



Really thx for the fast replys, I'll gather those information and post here, I just dont know if I can do it this weekend.