Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?

[mystick7]

it looks like zowie is still a bit better even with Dyac off, but Is that a significant and impactful improvement in motion clarity and will it result in a better gaming experience?

For fps games, switching from the XV252QF to the XL2566K made me perform slightly better.

I'm not sure about what matters for fighting games, I guess it is all about timings and animation clarity. We could argue that if the game is stuck at 60fps you'll see the same frame for 6 refreshes so the difference in response times might not be extremely noticeable because most transitions will already hit the target by the end of first refresh, I'd only consider the Zowie for games like Valorant/Overwatch/R6s/... unless you got money to burn.

I'll be honest, if I was you I'd probably go for the XG2431 due to its almost unique variable-scanrate panel (which makes 60hz latency comparable to 240hz latency) paired with 60hz single strobe capability, you'd get both low latency with no crosstalk and no fps<strobe rate artifacts which means that you could match CRT level of clarity with much lower lag, both the Acer and the Zowie seem extremely overkill but if you really want to go for a 300+hz monitor and sacrifice clarity for a few milliseconds of lag, then it's all about what you value:

better colors? Acer
better clarity? Zowie

Hi okay, when it comes to fighting game, what's most important is the response time, 60hz vs 360hz is a 14.4 ms difference in delay, since one frame is 16.6ms, that's an almost one frame advantage, which is actually very noticable, next thing is motion clarity of course.

one other thing i am now confused about, SF6 has the option to turn off motion blur in the game, let's say I go for the zowie XL2566K, should I keep that option turned on or turn it off ?

[mystick7]

If game is locked to 60 then you need to look for 60 Hz 60 fps ufos for comparisons, these are at 360+. It's always a different story at low vs max refresh rate. Unfortunately games that are locked at low frame rate are also locked from improving sample-and-hold motion clarity.

When it comes to strobing you definitely want perfect Hz=FPS sync which can be tricky to achieve without compromises like latency or screen tearing. And for 60 fps strobing you'll need a monitor that supports 60Hz and currently only XG2431 can do that. But note that strobing is flickering, especially at such low frequencies. So make sure you can handle it before purchasing.

i don't mind screen tearing, i actually paly with v synch OFF, but flickering, THE xg2431 is not even available in europe, and i would rather have the speed of the 360hz monitors to be honest, as that's what matters the most in fighing games.

[Avi]

But note that strobing is flickering, especially at such low frequencies. So make sure you can handle it before purchasing.

What do you mean by that? Lower refresh rate produces more flickering with strobing?

[Discorz]

i don't mind screen tearing, i actually paly with v synch OFF, but flickering, THE xg2431 is not even available in europe, and i would rather have the speed of the 360hz monitors to be honest, as that's what matters the most in fighing games.

In 60fps locked games its not possible to fully experience 360hz (you'll still get 60Hz-like blur even at 360Hz), but at least you get partial (not full) latency benefits. In that case use max input refresh rate, optionally you can use vrr to remove tearing for better experience. If u end up using vrr get a display that has a well tuned overdrive at 60Hz. I'll assume 66K does better here with 30-level overdrive for fine tuning, while acer is only 2-3 level.

[Discorz]

What do you mean by that? Lower refresh rate produces more flickering with strobing?

Yes!

Lower frequency (60Hz) is more irritating than high frequency strobing (120+Hz). That's why on most monitors we don't see a support for anything bellow ~100Hz. Even strobing at ultra high frequency (1000Hz PWM dimming) is still flickering and sensitive eye can find it irritating.

[axaro1]

Hi okay, when it comes to fighting game, what's most important is the response time, 60hz vs 360hz is a 14.4 ms difference in delay, since one frame is 16.6ms, that's an almost one frame advantage, which is actually very noticable, next thing is motion clarity of course.

one other thing i am now confused about, SF6 has the option to turn off motion blur in the game, let's say I go for the zowie XL2566K, should I keep that option turned on or turn it off ?

You are confusing response times with input lag, Discorz made a good point regarding 60fps performing similar to 60Hz at 360Hz.

Ingame motion blur settings should never be used if you want to achieve the best competitive experience.

[mystick7]

Hi okay, when it comes to fighting game, what's most important is the response time, 60hz vs 360hz is a 14.4 ms difference in delay, since one frame is 16.6ms, that's an almost one frame advantage, which is actually very noticable, next thing is motion clarity of course.

one other thing i am now confused about, SF6 has the option to turn off motion blur in the game, let's say I go for the zowie XL2566K, should I keep that option turned on or turn it off ?

You are confusing response times with input lag, Discorz made a good point regarding 60fps performing similar to 60Hz at 360Hz.

Ingame motion blur settings should never be used if you want to achieve the best competitive experience.

Hi, You are right, i meant input lag, 360hz has a 14.4ms advantage compared to a 60hz monitor, okay so since in sf6 there is the option to turn off the motion blur, there is no motion blur to reduce in the first place, dyac+ will not be needed, so XL2566K is, in theory, the winner since it will give the best motion clarity and speed overall ?.

[roro13200]

I'm relaunching this post because I have the 2566k and also play sf6, and I admit I don't know which parameter used at the moment, knowing that I can't stand the feeling of the vrr

[Supermodel_Evelynn]

I'm relaunching this post because I have the 2566k and also play sf6, and I admit I don't know which parameter used at the moment, knowing that I can't stand the feeling of the vrr

Here is what you can do, go to steam and purchase Lossless_Scaling App for $7

It allows for 2X or 3X frame generation this will allow street fighter 6 to run at 120 FPS or 180 FPS, this way you can use the DYAC+ feature without suffering any cross talk issues.

This is what I do with my XG2431, and lossless_scaling has a basic pwm sync feature so it eliminates tearing in fighting games.

AMD's AFMF 2 looks better but it has bad tearing without VRR enabled and 120 FPS still looks like crap without strobing on an LCD

All these ZOwie esport monitors are trash without strobing enabled, they are slow and bad and cannot compete with OLED.
They shine with Strobing.

I don't know who told you to buy that TN monitor, if you were buying a monitor for fighting game and had no intentions of using frame generation to get 120 FPS then why didn't someome recommend you buy the XG 2431 which is far better since its IPS

Or hell a OLED which is far better and costs about the same.

360 HZ is worthless for fighting games because fighting games are still locked to 60 FPS

If you wanted to get the best monitor for fighting games why not get a OLED monitor? it's miles better than any of these garbage LCD

[roro13200]

THANKS
I've always heard that TN panels are good for competitive games, plus 360hz and supposed to offer very laggy input despite the games being capped at 60fps.

the application you are talking about I bought it some time ago on Steam,

but this does not bring significant additional input lag?