Zowie xl2546 or asus pg258q?

[Doom Slayer]

Hello, i've just RMA my c24fg70 monitor as it has issues on 144 hz (very blurry, lots of distortion and it's a mess when strobbed as it just magnifies all of the symptoms as well as textures flicker with or without strobing) and most likely I will get money back so I am in a dilema which is the better performing monitor.
In my country zowie xl2546 costs 520e (xl2540 costs 560e don't ask me why or how because i have no clue lol) while asus pg258q costs 660e... I am willing to add even 200e on my return money as long as monitor has clear picture for competitive gaming. As i have read about competitive monitors it all boils down to pg258q or zowie xl2546. If i'm wrong please correct me.
I am overclocker myself so i honestly don't care if i have to calibrate MBR as long as i can get the better results. I will tune it whole week if i have to until i get perfect results that monitor can produce. I'm perfectionist and will push it to it's sole limit.

So if you guys can share some wisdom with me please. Which monitor has better clarity and lower input lag? As i understanf gsync monitors are alteady calibrated and are for those who cba to tune monitor themselves but in the end which monitor will offer best results in the endpg258q out of the box or the zowie xl2546 extremely tuned? Or maybe a third monitor model that will be better then these two?

Please share your wisdom and don't bias yourself around my questions involving asus and zowie... give me your best!

[k2viper]

You need to decide, whether you want full 240hz strobing or not.

If yes, 2546 benq can strobe at 240hz.
If no (or you dont care), asus pg258q could have slightly better 240hz nonstrobed quality, but it cannot strobe at full 240hz, only at 144 if I recall correctly. Acer XB252 can also be considered as good as Asus.

Thats if you want 24".
At 27" you probably would like a LG 27GK750F-B (see my thread around). Or look for (user) reviews of the new Benq XL2740 - it should strobe at 240hz (blur reduction enabled via service menu), there was an owner on this forum, but he havent shown up for some time.

[Doom Slayer]

I'm looking for crisper and clearer image but since strobing provides better and clearer picture id go with strobbing. I'd love if non strobbing image would be crisp and blur less but thats what we will notice at 500hz and up. 240hz doesn't have as much blur you can see details on ufo but i bet from 500hz and up it would be acceptable lvl of crispness but we need that 1 khz.

[k2viper]

Then go for XL2546 as 24", LG 27GK750F-B for 27", they both provide strobing at full 240hz.

[Doom Slayer]

So zowie should in the end provide clearer image once heavily tuned?

[Chief Blur Buster]

How important is Motion Blur Reduction strobing to you?

Another consideration is that several 240 Hz monitors (BenQ, LG) have huge headroom in Vertical Totals.
Which means 120Hz strobed on a good 240Hz monitor can look better than 120Hz strobed on 144Hz.

240Hz strobed (on 240Hz) will always have more crosstalk than 120Hz (on either 144Hz or 240Hz).

So if strobing is numero uno, get massive refresh rate headroom, to get higher quality motion blur reduction at lower refresh rates.

[Doom Slayer]

How important is Motion Blur Reduction strobing to you?

Another consideration is that several 240 Hz monitors (BenQ, LG) have huge headroom in Vertical Totals.
Which means 120Hz strobed on a good 240Hz monitor can look better than 120Hz strobed on 144Hz.

240Hz strobed (on 240Hz) will always have more crosstalk than 120Hz (on either 144Hz or 240Hz).

So if strobing is numero uno, get massive refresh rate headroom, to get higher quality motion blur reduction at lower refresh rates.

Hi chief!
Well i'm playing overwatch very competitively and i can reach average of 240fps in the game no problems and it's not only the MBR that's important but input lag as well and as i read ... there's lower input lag when playing at higher refresh rate even if the framerate is static. So MBR and input lag both need to be accounted in together. I don't know how well it can strobe at 240 and how better the image clarity would be at 120 due to strobe crosstalk reduction... although it's bad to have fps drop bellow strobbed refresh rate i might even choose 180hz as that is the lowest it drops to(would that be the golden middle between the 2?) Until new hardware tech releases that can push overwatch 300fps minimum...

All in all... i'm overwhelmed chief. I want to have crispy image clarity for moving objects and i want to have as low input lag as it can go (i'm playing on 1000hz polling) so that i can have that "conmected feel" as much as possible.

[k2viper]

Well i'm playing overwatch very competitively and i can reach average of 240fps in the game no problems and it's not only the MBR that's important but input lag as well and as i read ... there's lower input lag when playing at higher refresh rate even if the framerate is static. So MBR and input lag both need to be accounted in together. I don't know how well it can strobe at 240 and how better the image clarity would be at 120 due to strobe crosstalk reduction... although it's bad to have fps drop bellow strobbed refresh rate i might even choose 180hz as that is the lowest it drops to(would that be the golden middle between the 2?) Until new hardware tech releases that can push overwatch 300fps minimum...

All in all... i'm overwhelmed chief. I want to have crispy image clarity for moving objects and i want to have as low input lag as it can go (i'm playing on 1000hz polling) so that i can have that "conmected feel" as much as possible.

I'm also a competitive Overwatch player (sr 3500), having 300 fps avg with drops to ~240-250 in fights with stream, to 270 without stream. There is an existing hardware that can push Overwatch to 300fps, you just need a 5ghz 8700K or 7700K cpu (i have 7700k) and a GPU that would not bottleneck Overwatch at low settings (mine is gtx 1070).

I switched to LG's 240hz right as they become available, and currently I have nothing to complain about it as a comp player, overclocker and enthusiast. Input lag wise, monitor is fine, much more responsive then my previous 27" Asus VG278H I used with strobing.

There are pics of 240hz strobed and also 240hz nonstrobed in my thread (see around). I can ensure you that both 240hz strobed and 240 nonstrobed modes are perfectly usable in Overwatch with very little of input lag (regarding you have >200fps). Currently I stick to 240hz strobed mode, because I mainly play dps and tanks with tracking aiming techniques (like s76 or zarya). Picture is "perfectly" clear and smooth, I'm fully satisfied with it currently. I added quotes just because as an overclocker and enthusiast, I'm also a bit perfectionist.

I seriously recommend to consider LG 27GK750F-B if you plan to go 27", but if I was you, I'd looked for reviews of new Benq XL2740 which should also be as flexible and good as LG. Anyway, LG is a good bet because its 100 bucks cheaper then XL2740.

For 24" I believe XL2546 still should be better then others 24", with 240hz strobing and flexibility Benqs provide to tweak crosstak with Blurbusters strobe utility and its service menu.

[Doom Slayer]

Well i'm playing overwatch very competitively and i can reach average of 240fps in the game no problems and it's not only the MBR that's important but input lag as well and as i read ... there's lower input lag when playing at higher refresh rate even if the framerate is static. So MBR and input lag both need to be accounted in together. I don't know how well it can strobe at 240 and how better the image clarity would be at 120 due to strobe crosstalk reduction... although it's bad to have fps drop bellow strobbed refresh rate i might even choose 180hz as that is the lowest it drops to(would that be the golden middle between the 2?) Until new hardware tech releases that can push overwatch 300fps minimum...

All in all... i'm overwhelmed chief. I want to have crispy image clarity for moving objects and i want to have as low input lag as it can go (i'm playing on 1000hz polling) so that i can have that "conmected feel" as much as possible.

I'm also a competitive Overwatch player (sr 3500), having 300 fps avg with drops to ~240-250 in fights with stream, to 270 without stream. There is an existing hardware that can push Overwatch to 300fps, you just need a 5ghz 8700K or 7700K cpu (i have 7700k) and a GPU that would not bottleneck Overwatch at low settings (mine is gtx 1070).

I switched to LG's 240hz right as they become available, and currently I have nothing to complain about it as a comp player, overclocker and enthusiast. Input lag wise, monitor is fine, much more responsive then my previous 27" Asus VG278H I used with strobing.

There are pics of 240hz strobed and also 240hz nonstrobed in my thread (see around). I can ensure you that both 240hz strobed and 240 nonstrobed modes are perfectly usable in Overwatch with very little of input lag (regarding you have >200fps). Currently I stick to 240hz strobed mode, because I mainly play dps and tanks with tracking aiming techniques (like s76 or zarya). Picture is "perfectly" clear and smooth, I'm fully satisfied with it currently. I added quotes just because as an overclocker and enthusiast, I'm also a bit perfectionist.

I seriously recommend to consider LG 27GK750F-B if you plan to go 27", but if I was you, I'd looked for reviews of new Benq XL2740 which should also be as flexible and good as LG. Anyway, LG is a good bet because its 100 bucks cheaper then XL2740.

For 24" I believe XL2546 still should be better then others 24", with 240hz strobing and flexibility Benqs provide to tweak crosstak with Blurbusters strobe utility and its service menu.

Yeah... that lg model is not on sale here where i live and 27 inch is a bit big isn't it? Also most definitely it would be more expensive then xl2546 and hows that model in comparison to zowie xl2546? Is image any better or worse?

[k2viper]

and 27 inch is a bit big isn't it? Also most definitely it would be more expensive then xl2546 and hows that model in comparison to zowie xl2546? Is image any better or worse?

I dont own a xl2546 and cannot directly compare them.
27" may be big, but personally I have 2x24" on my workplace and 27" at home, both 1080p, and my experience is that I like 27" more.
Its kinda personal, you should decide for yourself between 24" and 27". I bought my LG for ~480usd, its not so expensive at least now.