Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

[nolikeee]

after 2 mounth im back on asus xg27aqm 270hz its faster (imput lag) on max overdrive then acer 390hz. im playing csgo only.

Do you have any numbers?

I play at maximum overdrive and yes there are overloads, but they are not as strong as they were on the Acer XB273U GX. I realized a very important thing is that it makes no sense to talk about the same panel in different monitor companies because different manufacturers configure the software in absolutely different ways (different overclocking \ delays \ colors, etc.). So back to csgo, I use maximum overclocking at level 5 and indeed there are small overloads there, but I'm ready to put up with it because I get an incredibly responsive panel. level 4 and is not close to the speed at level 5. My previous 2 360hz monitors, which were 2521H and XV252QF, did not have such a responsive panel. I don't have numbers, but I have eyes and a lot of experience in the game, I've also seen a lot of monitors before and have something to compare with. before that I had (Asus MG279 PG279 LG 27GL850 HP 27 X AW2720HF AW2721H Samsung G7 VG279QM AW2521H XV252QF and now the latest XG27AQM ) I would also like to consider 24G2ZU for the test, which I have in Moscow for $ 350.

[Yeahdud]

After 30 days of use, I've returned it. Pixel response time is indeed not ideal, motion blur is there, it throws me off and its hard for me to react/track when someone's wide peaking me from close(feels like I'm fighting a ghost) without VRB. Acer OSD settings are not ideal, Would have liked a more in depth sharpness setting instead of O to EXTREME SHARPNING also some color settings don't save. player models just don't pop out on this monitor. Input wise and 390hz is nice but pixel response... its not there yet. VRB brightness is just annoying. I'm coming from a 144hz monitor, with past 240hz experience xl2546, xl2540k. Or I'm the most unlucky person in the world or benq zowie panels qc is terrible, I've only had dead pixels from them 5 out of 5 monitors some nice stuck/dead pixels. still looking to get my hands on one without issues.

[Notty_PT]

Let´s play a game!

2 different monitors compared at 1080 pps. One of them is Acer Nitro 390hz with overdrive normal.

You decide wich one seems faster, left or right. Afterwards, I will reveal wich one is the Acer and what is the other monitor

[Axaion]

unless theyre at the same hz, you cant really compare them like that, a5hun has a video on this

[michaelcycle00]

Let´s play a game!

2 different monitors compared at 1080 pps. One of them is Acer Nitro 390hz with overdrive normal.

You decide wich one seems faster, left or right. Afterwards, I will reveal wich one is the Acer and what is the other monitor

390hz Acer on the left 100%. The right one is the HP Omen X 25 maybe?

[lizardpeter]

390hz Acer on the left 100%. The right one is the HP Omen X 25 maybe?

Yeah, I agree. However, on my XV252QF I can see the three lines on the UFO clearer than that and there appears to be less ghosting. It's probably because I use extreme for OD.

[michaelcycle00]

390hz Acer on the left 100%. The right one is the HP Omen X 25 maybe?

Yeah, I agree. However, on my XV252QF I can see the three lines on the UFO clearer than that and there appears to be less ghosting. It's probably because I use extreme for OD.

Also agree 100%. Notty's pic doesn't say much tbh. 2 different pics from 2 different people and who knows how they took each (despite the speed). I can also nitpick the most favourable picture for the right monitor and the least one for the left one to make one look better over the other. Just watch Brandon Taylor's Acer 390hz review and see the UFO pic he shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4omNr5723I&t=482s min: 7:03

If we go by that pic then whatever monitor is in the right (of Notty's pic) isn't as good as the Acer.

[Notty_PT]

Not to hurt anyone feelings, but the pics are from OptimumTech reviewer on youtube

THe nitro 390hz is about to win the votes on Rtings tho, so soon enough we will see how much better than the other 360hz monitors it performs, considering none of them are even top 15 most responsive monitors on Rtings.

On a side note, I used to be on this forum some years ago and things didn´t work like this. Right now it seems hard to talk bad about certain products (not talking about this monitor only). People seem to overly defend their phurcases until the end. This place used to be full of monitor enthusiasts that spent their 500€ on each model and made all their complains anyway. I mean we reached a point where people on here is debating professional reviewers values, and even worse, going against guys that make a living from actually playing fast paced videogames, wich seems incredible to me Is like most on this thread can´t accept the idea that these panels aren´t that good. Just check the damn numbers on Rtings Filters (you can choose your own filters on the Monitor Table Tool

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table

All I see is even 144hz and 165hz panels beating the 360hz ones. On certain parameters you can´t even see a single 360hz model on the first 2 pages

Sure, Acer Nitro is not there, yet, but does anyone believe it will be twice as fast as the other models using the same panel, just because of 30hz more? Doubt it. But hey, will wait for Rtings numbers anyway, and then at least I can back up my claims with actual numbers

[lizardpeter]

The nitro 390hz is about to win the votes on Rtings tho, so soon enough we will see how much better than the other 360hz monitors it performs, considering none of them are even top 15 most responsive monitors on Rtings.

When I talk about responsiveness, I am talking about the time it takes for actions I do to appear on screen. If you are using RTINGS, you can see that the fastest recorded monitor is a 360 Hz one. In terms of response time, the rise and fall time of the Asus 360 Hz monitor is right there behind the OLEDs (obviously) and the G9. I just plugged in my 240 Hz TN monitor to see what I thought about it compared to my 390 Hz one. Yeah, honestly I can see a bit more ghosting on the 390 Hz. However, it doesn't really matter to me. The increase of 150 Hz makes everything much clearer overall. Using the Frog Pursuit program at 500 FPS, I can go to substantially faster settings while keeping the same clarity as the 240 Hz monitor (ex. 7 px/fps vs 5 px/fps).

As for talking about people who make a living playing games, don't forget that for years many stay on the same panels and don't seem to have any issue. A ton of them also have sponsorships. Those Zowie monitors everyone recommends are honestly not good at all. There are still a ton of pros playing on them even when not using Dyac. I could easily swap between my 240 Hz and 390 Hz monitor on COD and still be a top player. I don't think it affects performance that much. Fortnite is pretty fast paced. Many pros use 360 Hz, and it's skewed towards the top earners.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

[Notty_PT]

The nitro 390hz is about to win the votes on Rtings tho, so soon enough we will see how much better than the other 360hz monitors it performs, considering none of them are even top 15 most responsive monitors on Rtings.

When I talk about responsiveness, I am talking about the time it takes for actions I do to appear on screen. If you are using RTINGS, you can see that the fastest recorded monitor is a 360 Hz one. In terms of response time, the rise and fall time of the Asus 360 Hz monitor is right there behind the OLEDs (obviously) and the G9. I just plugged in my 240 Hz TN monitor to see what I thought about it compared to my 390 Hz one. Yeah, honestly I can see a bit more ghosting on the 390 Hz. However, it doesn't really matter to me. The increase of 150 Hz makes everything much clearer overall. Using the Frog Pursuit program at 500 FPS, I can go to substantially faster settings while keeping the same clarity as the 240 Hz monitor (ex. 7 px/fps vs 5 px/fps).

As for talking about people who make a living playing games, don't forget that for years many stay on the same panels and don't seem to have any issue. A ton of them also have sponsorships. Those Zowie monitors everyone recommends are honestly not good at all. There are still a ton of pros playing on them even when not using Dyac. I could easily swap between my 240 Hz and 390 Hz monitor on COD and still be a top player. I don't think it affects performance that much. Fortnite is pretty fast paced. Many pros use 360 Hz, and it's skewed towards the top earners.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

With an overshoot error of whooping 11%, with a 144hz TN panel in front of it and with the same value as the Dell S24 165hz and Nitro 240hz, both with less overshoot error than the Asus. And this is on the highly subjective RIse/fall time (see why here -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZUgKpzTA0 ). If you look at the total response time number you need to scroll down to actually find the ASus 360hz model And if we check the Dark response time, wich is as, if not more important, then things get even worse. Plus remember, it´s a 360hz panel with the obvious more refreshes advantage over the other competitors that easily beat it.

So I really don´t know where you got the idea of it being the fastest monitor they recorded. It wasn´t even close to being the highest scoring one. In fact it isn´t even top 40 on the best Pixel response time score for a reason.

Don´t forget I had all of these monitors, I returned them for a reason. They are not faster, but you have bad models to compare with, it´s my only explanation. I can´t understand how someone can say these panels are faster. I really can´t. Refresh rate isn´t everything, literally every review, UFO tests and numbers show I am right.

This is Strobing at Extreme, from OptimumTech review. I mean, wtf is this, how can this even remotely be considered good? I have no idea. My eyes would bleed if I had to track targets everyday with such an awful trailing