Thank you for the answer !Boomchakadah wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 04:22For motion clarity, yes.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 13:30Is TN always the king
I think it too !
Thank you for the answer !Boomchakadah wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 04:22For motion clarity, yes.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 13:30Is TN always the king
Sorry i have don't understand why you have say that.1000WATT wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 07:29Please don't mislead people.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 17:53In any case I'm too sad to see that in terms of motion blur IPS still don't come close to TNs, in reality you'll laugh but when you take the Asus IPS 360hz VS an Asus 144hz TN I I have the impression that the TN is always less blurry, I don't know if it comes from the Rtings tests but that's what we see.
Check the XG2431 IPS review.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 13:30Hi, i know, fast-ips becoming better than before but actually, in terms of motion blur only ( not for response time ) TN are always the winner, you can check on Rtings Website that with some IPS the Rtings logo is always very blurry with bigger letter than on TN.
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The TN and IPS venn diagram already overlaps now.
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I don't have this screen in my country and i don't like the Strobing stuff.Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 22:05Check the XG2431 IPS review.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 13:30Hi, i know, fast-ips becoming better than before but actually, in terms of motion blur only ( not for response time ) TN are always the winner, you can check on Rtings Website that with some IPS the Rtings logo is always very blurry with bigger letter than on TN.
It's Blur Busters Approved BFI mode is clearer than many TN panels.
Thanks for the huge comment but unefortunately i don't like strobing stuff it's cause me headache and i don't care about this technology ( sorry )Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 22:09The TN and IPS venn diagram already overlaps now.
The problem is most users don't see thousands of monitors (like I do) and is unable to cherrypick.
If you randomly choose 3 TN panels and choose 3 IPS panels, you may not see my experience.
That's where users make the wrong assumption.
There are clearly now IPS monitors that has less motion blur than TN monitors.
But sometimes people don't go apples-vs-apples (e.g. you get a 360Hz IPS and try to compare against a 240Hz TN) because the refeshtime:gtgtime ratios are wildly different, and it's possible to see more ghosting on 360Hz IPS than a 240Hz TN. But guess what? A good 240Hz IPS ghosts more symmetrically than a 360Hz IPS, since the leadGtG:trailingGtG asymmetry is worse with some IPS panels (for example GtG time of grey->white may be slower than white->grey ... creating asymmetric ghosting effects that look worse for some people). Even though 360Hz can have clearer motion, the motion blur may not be as symmetric as a 240Hz IPS or 240Hz TN. They are still working on improving those.
Also quality may be different for:
- Fixed Hz
- VRR
- Strobed
This is where, sometimes IPS<->TN can swap sides, for certain settings. The ViewSonic XG2431 (IPS) strobing is reported to be clearer than the XL2546K DyAc (TN) strobing, according to a few users, Hz for Hz, as one example.
XL2546K versus XG2431: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/co ... rison_1425
And real user reports also report the same. The Blur Busters Approved 2.0 (a programme for improving strobe quality) did a lot of work making IPS strobing better than many TN panels, as an example.
I have tried to invite BenQ to participate in Blur Busters Approved 2.0 but, currently, they are not interested. Perhaps this will change in the future.
1. HP OMEN X27, 240 Гц, TNAnonymous316387 wrote: i will show you multiple example :
Here is a random 1440p HP OMEN 27 inch 240hz TN panel with OD at level 3
IPS 360hz VS an Asus 144hz TNAnonymous316387 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 16:02Sorry i have don't understand why you have say that.1000WATT wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 07:29Please don't mislead people.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 17:53In any case I'm too sad to see that in terms of motion blur IPS still don't come close to TNs, in reality you'll laugh but when you take the Asus IPS 360hz VS an Asus 144hz TN I I have the impression that the TN is always less blurry, I don't know if it comes from the Rtings tests but that's what we see.
But that's definitely not my goal.
Have a nice day.
1000WATT wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 18:291. HP OMEN X27, 240 Гц, TNAnonymous316387 wrote: i will show you multiple example :
Here is a random 1440p HP OMEN 27 inch 240hz TN panel with OD at level 3
2. It cannot be a random panel. This panel is number 1 after oled (according to rtings*com)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/mo ... ponse-time
IPS 360hz VS an Asus 144hz TNAnonymous316387 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 16:02Sorry i have don't understand why you have say that.1000WATT wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 07:29Please don't mislead people.Anonymous316387 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 17:53In any case I'm too sad to see that in terms of motion blur IPS still don't come close to TNs, in reality you'll laugh but when you take the Asus IPS 360hz VS an Asus 144hz TN I I have the impression that the TN is always less blurry, I don't know if it comes from the Rtings tests but that's what we see.
But that's definitely not my goal.
Have a nice day.
Show at least 1 such comparison, picture to picture.
Be patient, study this forum. And then you will know what details to pay attention to. When we compare test images.Anonymous316387 wrote: You can clearly see that without strobing stuff, the Asus TN is slightly better than the other IPS in 240hz ( the text is thinner on the TN 144hz )
Sorry i don't understand what do you mean but i've nothing to study actually about comparing test images.1000WATT wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 14:34Be patient, study this forum. And then you will know what details to pay attention to. When we compare test images.Anonymous316387 wrote: You can clearly see that without strobing stuff, the Asus TN is slightly better than the other IPS in 240hz ( the text is thinner on the TN 144hz )