What monitor is better to g-sync? Dell Alienware AW2521H vs MSI Oculux NXG253R

[Worstylolzs]

Hello,

after the long time i finaly bought Dell Alienware AW2521H. But now i still can't stop thinking about MSI Oculux NXG253R. I was reading RTINGS tests for both monitors and oculux have better overshoot at 60hz. On 120 oculux dont have results, but alienware got overshoot on that HZ.
Compare:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/co ... shold=0.10

My question:
Will better overshoot results on oculux 60hz matter when i use g-sync with 360hz? Sadly i dont find 120hz results on oculux, but alienware got overshoot on 120hz. I play apex legends, where my fps can fluctuating and can drop to 100-120 fps, but soon i will update pc. So can this result cause worse g-sync(360hz) experience?

Thank you for you future answers!

[Discorz]

Hello,

after the long time i finaly bought Dell Alienware AW2521H. But now i still can't stop thinking about MSI Oculux NXG253R. I was reading RTINGS tests for both monitors and oculux have better overshoot at 60hz. On 120 oculux dont have results, but alienware got overshoot on that HZ.
Compare:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/co ... shold=0.10

My question:
Will better overshoot results on oculux 60hz matter when i use g-sync with 360hz? Sadly i dont find 120hz results on oculux, but alienware got overshoot on 120hz. I play apex legends, where my fps can fluctuating and can drop to 100-120 fps, but soon i will update pc. So can this result cause worse g-sync(360hz) experience?

Thank you for you future answers!

The two monitors are tested with different test benches. AW2521H response time results are test v1.2 and NXG253R is v1.1. Older version don't test VRR. And G-SYNC monitors are known to behave different in fixed and VRR situations. So it's not a same scenario comparison. This is nicely demonstrated here - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10150. OD Super Fast @360Hz 240fps vs @240Hz 240fps is good example. At 60Hz AW25 has no overshoot in any of the situations so no worries there.

In this case
v1.1 will test:
Response Time @ Max Refresh Rate = 360Hz input, 360fps
Response Time @ 60Hz = 60Hz input, 60fps

v1.2 will test:
Response Time @ Max Refresh Rate = 360Hz input, 360fps
Response Time @ 120Hz = 360Hz input, VRR 120fps
Response Time @ 60Hz = 360Hz input, VRR 60fps

My advice would be to not bother wasting money on negligible differences. From what I've seen all these 360Hz monitors are basically identical. If u really want a proper upgrade wait for future high refresh rate OLEDs.

[Worstylolzs]

Hello,

after the long time i finaly bought Dell Alienware AW2521H. But now i still can't stop thinking about MSI Oculux NXG253R. I was reading RTINGS tests for both monitors and oculux have better overshoot at 60hz. On 120 oculux dont have results, but alienware got overshoot on that HZ.
Compare:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/co ... shold=0.10

My question:
Will better overshoot results on oculux 60hz matter when i use g-sync with 360hz? Sadly i dont find 120hz results on oculux, but alienware got overshoot on 120hz. I play apex legends, where my fps can fluctuating and can drop to 100-120 fps, but soon i will update pc. So can this result cause worse g-sync(360hz) experience?

Thank you for you future answers!

The two monitors are tested with different test benches. AW2521H response time results are test v1.2 and NXG253R is v1.1. Older version don't test VRR. And G-SYNC monitors are known to behave different in fixed and VRR situations. So it's not a same scenario comparison. This is nicely demonstrated here - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10150. OD Super Fast @360Hz 240fps vs @240Hz 240fps is good example. At 60Hz AW25 has no overshoot in any of the situations so no worries there.

In this case
v1.1 will test:
Response Time @ Max Refresh Rate = 360Hz input, 360fps
Response Time @ 60Hz = 60Hz input, 60fps

v1.2 will test:
Response Time @ Max Refresh Rate = 360Hz input, 360fps
Response Time @ 120Hz = 360Hz input, VRR 120fps
Response Time @ 60Hz = 360Hz input, VRR 60fps

My advice would be to not bother wasting money on negligible differences. From what I've seen all these 360Hz monitors are basically identical. If u really want a proper upgrade wait for future high refresh rate OLEDs.

Thanks for the answer.
So you wanna say in short: "Worsty" stop thinking about sh*ts and just enjoy 360hz monitor with g-sync. When you want it so long and finally bought for nice price 318$. So its maybe best answer what you can say, because it's true i maybe overthinking this so much.

I see you got alienware too, are you playing with G-sync? And how much happy are you with that monitor?
And what preset mode you are using for FPS games?
Thanks.

[Kyouki]

As a owner of the AW2521H can highly recommend it. Great monitor.

[Discorz]

I noticed many people overthink when it comes to competitive gaming. 1ms of lag, 1ms of response time difference is negligible. They end up in a loop trying out dozens of similar or same basically monitors. I get it, its exciting. I kinda fell into same hole. But at the end of the day is it really worth it? These days a lot of information on monitors can already be found online, or even predicted.

Interestingly most fun days of gaming were probably when we didn't even know about all this stuff. Try not to get too deep into rabbit hole. Enjoy it while you can.

AW2521H is a good monitors, as always there is room for improvement. My main display is M32Q. AW ended up on my table because I wasn't able to resell it. Didn't plan to use it.

[Chief Blur Buster]

I noticed many people overthink when it comes to competitive gaming. 1ms of lag, 1ms of response time difference is negligible.

In 60-120Hz sample and hold, 1ms GtG differences is definitely fairly unimportant...

Now, there are unanticipated consequences I must caveat.
If you enable strobing, a 1ms GtG difference can increase strobe crosstalk by more than 10%-25% on some monitors. Big difference.

Did you know?



On one monitor model, a 1ms GtG increase created 3% vs 25% for specific areas on the screen, with a narrower lower-crosstalk zone.

Strobing is a situation where GtG is kind of a finish-line effect. If GtG finishes in the dark, strobe backlight doesn't have crosstalk. But if GtG is not finished by the time the backlight flashes, you have strobe crosstalk. With 3ms intervals between 1ms strobes on a 4ms interval (240Hz) on a BenQ XL2546, 1ms is a 33% increased chance of missing the GtG finish line to hide strobe crosstalk.

Be careful of contexts -- where it's often risky dictating which millisecond is unimportant, and which millisecond is important, because of The Amazing Human Visible Feats of The Millisecond.

If you're a strobe fan, this is important (True real-world GtG, not GtG spec, not MPRT spec).

[Worstylolzs]

Hello,

today is the last day, when i can return alienware and i still don't know what to do .
Return alienware and buy oculux or stay with alienware?

Anyone who got Oculux at home? For Alienware i read here good opinions, but what oculux?

In my opinions is alienware very good in compare with viewsonic xg2530 what i have here too, but i dont have any resources to buy oculux and alienware to compare.
Cons is in my opinion the inputs for cables where you got hard to put cable in and all cables are in one hole. Im scared this can cause some problems if cables are not good in shielding. Another thing is stand, where in my opinion is not that practic like oculux and viewsonic.

I noticed many people overthink when it comes to competitive gaming. 1ms of lag, 1ms of response time difference is negligible.

In 60-120Hz sample and hold, 1ms GtG differences is definitely fairly unimportant...

Now, there are unanticipated consequences I must caveat.
If you enable strobing, a 1ms GtG difference can increase strobe crosstalk by more than 10%-25% on some monitors. Big difference.

Did you know?



On one monitor model, a 1ms GtG increase created 3% vs 25% for specific areas on the screen, with a narrower lower-crosstalk zone.

Strobing is a situation where GtG is kind of a finish-line effect. If GtG finishes in the dark, strobe backlight doesn't have crosstalk. But if GtG is not finished by the time the backlight flashes, you have strobe crosstalk. With 3ms intervals between 1ms strobes on a 4ms interval (240Hz) on a BenQ XL2546, 1ms is a 33% increased chance of missing the GtG finish line to hide strobe crosstalk.

Be careful of contexts -- where it's often risky dictating which millisecond is unimportant, and which millisecond is important, because of The Amazing Human Visible Feats of The Millisecond.

If you're a strobe fan, this is important (True real-world GtG, not GtG spec, not MPRT spec).

Chief what is your opinion on this topic? Which of this two monitors is better for G-sync if i play in 100-300 FPS? Can this GtG affect me too if i play with G-sync?

Thank you for your answers guys!

[Discorz]

Did you know?

As always your statements are true.

Although I think no one should let themselves be bothered too much. Otherwise how does one enjoy it.

Especially in case like this where same vs same panel is in question.

Which of this two monitors is better for G-sync if i play in 100-300 FPS?

If u play in that range than G-SYNC's variable overdrive is the way to go. You won't have overshoot as framerate varies unlike on XG for example. G-SYNC is a set and forget overdrive. Both AW and NX are same panels and nvidia tuned, so the differences you might have imagined are extremely small in terms of gtg performance.

[Worstylolzs]

Hello
Funfact: i made final "Decision". The last day when i can return the alienware i try different cable(Club-3D) then you get from the alienware. I try to put cable in input, but i cant..... Because cable is so thick and how i say, alienware is not very practic monitor. This made my so angry .
The Argument why i want alienware to stay, make me to return alienware and because all this 360HZ are near same, i go return alienware and order MSI oculux, because MSI is more practic than alienware and maybe can be better response, but how you all say its not something what yo can see.

[Kyouki]

I am using a Club3D cable for my AW2521H and had no problems with fitment, strange.