Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

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Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by Mattyblueeyes » 06 Feb 2023, 17:48

Every game I get into basically im noticing small stutters or framerate hitches which I can't understand why as I recently just bought a new PC i9 13900k and a 4090 with 6000mhz ddr5 corsair ram MB is z970-f asus strix. I downloaded CapFrameX to check to see if the stuttering was on my end or the latency from the servers as im literally lagging every game it feels like. The trouble is idk what I'm looking at tbh the amount of stuttering is low but shouldn't the smoothness be 100 percent. It's like the same amount every game over 300 seconds. I've tried low settings high all the stutter fixes that are mentioned regularly. If it's not on my end then is anyone else experiencing this on a high-end PC i feel like I'm getting server lag every game also which idk if that is normal on PC on Warzone as ive always played on PS5. I've only had this PC for about a week or 2 so i don't think it can be the parts everything is stock apart from the RAM DOCP which i have tried both profiles 1 and 2 and off and it still occurs. It's a bit lower the stuttering number with Capped fps but i can still feel when the fps drops even when capped. Maybe im just being an idiot and this is a normal amount of frame time stuttering to be getting in any game I don't really understand it as im not used to playing games with a high end PC. I have Gsync on and my monitor is a Samsung G7 Odyssey 240hz vsync on in NVCP and im capping my fps at 236 in general.

https://gyazo.com/f0f8a46b5649e86b97d0f686a5fd5575 - Unlimited FPS

https://gyazo.com/bcfef52ec67a9726c6b6e6918d16f9c9 - Capped FPS at 150

Ive tried stability tests for my ram and cpu also and there have been no issues temps are all fine so I really don't think it could be on my end. The only other game ive tested is Tarkov and WoW in which i get some frame time stuttering also but both of these games are poorly optimized so it could just be the games im not sure at this point. Ive tried reinstalling drivers etc for gpu and doing clean install. I can't seem to find much information about this online, unfortunately. Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by jorimt » 06 Feb 2023, 18:14

Mattyblueeyes wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 17:48
I've moved this to the general board, since G-SYNC can't affect or improve system-side stutter. It only prevent sync-stutter.

As for your graphs, they look normal to better-than-average; none of the spikes exceeded 50ms, with most being well under 20ms.

For reference, occasional frametime spikes of 100ms or under is within the "normal" expected range, especially in online open-world games during background asset-streaming.
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Re: Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by Mattyblueeyes » 06 Feb 2023, 19:14

jorimt wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:14
Mattyblueeyes wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 17:48
I've moved this to the general board, since G-SYNC can't affect or improve system-side stutter. It only prevent sync-stutter.

As for your graphs, they look normal to better-than-average; none of the spikes exceeded 50ms, with most being well under 20ms.

For reference, occasional frametime spikes of 100ms or under is within the "normal" expected range, especially in online open-world games during background asset-streaming.
Well, I just did 2 more games and got these results both with uncapped frames so im assuming it is either the game or just normal like you said and possibly cause im looking for it im a bit more sensitive to it. Thank you for the response and clarification as i didn't really have much idea what I was looking at and obviously was worried it was my hardware I had paid a lot of money for but all the stability tests i have done appear fine with 0 issues.

https://gyazo.com/dd8934eb5b8826aef88ed216e4b97d3d

https://gyazo.com/c5994a0a3aef2e2fb3ee11f35258fdcc

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Re: Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by jorimt » 06 Feb 2023, 22:01

Mattyblueeyes wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 19:14
Thank you for the response and clarification as i didn't really have much idea what I was looking at and obviously was worried it was my hardware I had paid a lot of money for but all the stability tests i have done appear fine with 0 issues.

https://gyazo.com/dd8934eb5b8826aef88ed216e4b97d3d

https://gyazo.com/c5994a0a3aef2e2fb3ee11f35258fdcc
Sure, and yeah, those look within normal tolerances to me as well.

Frametime spikes directly indicative of poor and/or faulty hardware performance would typically be much more frequent (sometimes even with a predictable repetitive interval pattern) and consistently higher (sometimes upward of half seconds or seconds), regardless of the game being run, and as you've probably already seen, frametime performance can not only vary from game-to-game, but from session-to-session in the same game, regardless of hardware capabilities.

Very few developers prioritize perfect frametime performance, and even less achieve it.

Most of them don't even know how to properly budget any of their performance targets and just tend to cram in as much information per I/O transfer as possible. Not that I can fully blame them, seeing how many possible configurations and capabilities of hardware individual users can have on PC.

It also doesn't help that were in an age of "loadless" gaming worlds, where much of this stutter would have been masked by loading screens between areas, but no one wants those anymore. Expecting everything to render faster and faster in an age of ever increase refresh and framerates doesn't help either.
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Re: Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by Kennkennykenken » 08 Feb 2023, 21:23

Have you turned on xmp
Changed windows power options to performance

Also use these settings, seem to be the only guy who knows what he's talking about

https://youtu.be/xN5_1dDUQrc
https://youtu.be/nWGbFRje6sM

There's some weird things with warzone that cause stutter. Having spot cache shadows on LOW is actually causing issues, and also in windows hardware accelerated GPU scheduling ON is causing stutters.

Couple bonus videos
Visibility using NVIDIA filters
https://youtu.be/DCPIyzVEuIc

Improve sound
https://youtu.be/h-ea0dg63pk

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Re: Are these frametime stutters normal on Warzone 2

Post by axaro1 » 09 Feb 2023, 03:16

You can also try to force Re-Sizeable Bar by downloading the Nvidia Profile Inspector and tweaking a few values. This should help you a little bit.
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