VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

[Sirius]

How’s your experience with this monitor and the xg259cm? seeing that you’re currently testing out both of these monitors. I’m stuck on deciding between two of these, heard that vg279qm only worth it if you could get the quisda panel

Note that i'm talking about the VG279QM 27 inch, not the 25inch variant which call VG259QM

The magic panel story is only for the VG259QM, not the VG279QM, right ?

At least, mine from VG279QM is good for a 27 inch 1080p but I'm going crazy, yesterday I played in Ultra 1440p on the Acer XV272UX of my wife in Apex Legends ( my main game ) and I was able to play better because I could see my opponents better (yes it can be very stupid what I said but it's the truth, in ULTRA settings ! in 144hz lock !)

In fact, my *ss would be too bad to take a TN or a small 25 inch screen, because in fact I'm a big fan of the latest Rachet & Clank and Pokemon games, I play them a lot and when I have a 1440p or a 4K, it's just too good, there is a real advantage.

I don't know what I really want anymore, at times I'm going to play very badly on high hertz 1080p screen because the visibility is not the best and at times it's on the 1440p high graphics screen that I'm going to play badly, very strange, in 144hz I did not notice any overshoot even at OD (Overdrive) 80 ! that's good !

Anyway, sorry for off topic, It's only my personal opinion, don't pay attention , the VG279QM for now is good, for the price i think it's the best 1080p at the moment, i've noticed weird thing with the ELMB, on UFO Test the UFO are very blurry because of the crosstalk but in games weirdly i like it.

The XG259CM is good too but have for my taste a slower panel, it feel slower in terms of input lag and the 240hz feeling feels like 180/200hz in this panel, plus I heard someone say here that the XG259CM has the same panel as the Dell S2522HG so in the end I know why I don't like the feeling of this panel.

I will test some 27inch/28inch 4K 144hz screen for testing in some days, I am nearsighted and very strongly corrected astigmatism I may need better sharpness, in fact I feel that better overall visibility helps me better than just based on motion clarity, I'll see that.



The biggest negative point of the VG279QM is that you can't have two profiles to change like that quickly for games or Youtube / Twitter for evening, I always do that personally, a profile to play and a profile when I want to go on Youtube / Rtings etc, otherwise it burns the eyes

In addition it is not even compatible with Asus Widget Display...

[Exile]

How’s your experience with this monitor and the xg259cm? seeing that you’re currently testing out both of these monitors. I’m stuck on deciding between two of these, heard that vg279qm only worth it if you could get the quisda panel

Note that i'm talking about the VG279QM 27 inch, not the 25inch variant which call VG259QM

The magic panel story is only for the VG259QM, not the VG279QM, right ?

At least, mine from VG279QM is good for a 27 inch 1080p but I'm going crazy, yesterday I played in Ultra 1440p on the Acer XV272UX of my wife in Apex Legends ( my main game ) and I was able to play better because I could see my opponents better (yes it can be very stupid what I said but it's the truth, in ULTRA settings ! in 144hz lock !)

In fact, my *ss would be too bad to take a TN or a small 25 inch screen, because in fact I'm a big fan of the latest Rachet & Clank and Pokemon games, I play them a lot and when I have a 1440p or a 4K, it's just too good, there is a real advantage.

I don't know what I really want anymore, at times I'm going to play very badly on high hertz 1080p screen because the visibility is not the best and at times it's on the 1440p high graphics screen that I'm going to play badly, very strange, in 144hz I did not notice any overshoot even at OD (Overdrive) 80 ! that's good !

Anyway, sorry for off topic, It's only my personal opinion, don't pay attention , the VG279QM for now is good, for the price i think it's the best 1080p at the moment, i've noticed weird thing with the ELMB, on UFO Test the UFO are very blurry because of the crosstalk but in games weirdly i like it.

The XG259CM is good too but have for my taste a slower panel, it feel slower in terms of input lag and the 240hz feeling feels like 180/200hz in this panel, plus I heard someone say here that the XG259CM has the same panel as the Dell S2522HG so in the end I know why I don't like the feeling of this panel.

I will test some 27inch/28inch 4K 144hz screen for testing in some days, I am nearsighted and very strongly corrected astigmatism I may need better sharpness, in fact I feel that better overall visibility helps me better than just based on motion clarity, I'll see that.



The biggest negative point of the VG279QM is that you can't have two profiles to change like that quickly for games or Youtube / Twitter for evening, I always do that personally, a profile to play and a profile when I want to go on Youtube / Rtings etc, otherwise it burns the eyes

In addition it is not even compatible with Asus Widget Display...

Pretty sure the magic panel story is for both of the monitor no? since it kind of the same with the difference is that one is 27” and one is 25”. Either way how it is compares to mag251rx? I saw tons of people complains about the color and contrast on the vg279qm. Im leaning on getting the xg2431 or the xg259cm since both the msi and the vg279qm uses older panels and I think getting a monitor with newer panel is better? I had tried the xg249cm before for a bit and since it’s the 24.8” version of xg259cm which I didn’t really like because it feels a little small for me personally so I’m skeptical about getting the xg2431

[Sirius]

Pretty sure the magic panel story is for both of the monitor no?

I don't know, anyway I can't know that the panel is in it but I find it fine.

since it kind of the same with the difference is that one is 27” and one is 25”

Clearly not the same at all, I had 4 VG259QM, I must have come across the QSIDA panel once and yet I never liked it, especially the colors which were awful to me

Either way how it is compares to mag251rx?

I don't know it's been a long time since I had this one and it didn't shock me but it was rather "correct" without strobing

I saw tons of people complains about the color and contrast on the vg279qm

So, you have to know that there is a particular feeling, you will always find that the screen is super bright/contrast/pop colors, strangely I prefer to play with a contrast of only 35 (base I always put higher on my monitors) but at once you find the correct settings it will be fine, of course it will clearly not be the best for Twitter (uh, it's X now) / Youtube and that kind of chill task

m leaning on getting the xg2431 or the xg259cm since both the msi and the vg279qm uses older panels and I think getting a monitor with newer panel is better?

New panel does not necessarily mean better performance but it's sure that if you take a TN/IPS from 2017/2018 you'll probably cry xD
The smoothness for the VG279QM is good but keep in mind that 1080p at 27 inch is not the "perfect" choice for visibility/sharpness

I had tried the xg249cm before for a bit and since it’s the 24.8” version of xg259cm which I didn’t really like because it feels a little small for me personally so I’m skeptical about getting the xg2431

YOU ARE LUCKY! because I had the same experience as you! I had the XG249CM (one of the worst I've had honestly) it was quite slow, not bright and mostly SUPER SMALL, that's why a few months later I was reluctant to try the XG2431 but I did it!
The XG2431 in terms of "crosstalk" and motion clarity was ok!, it's one of the "best" IPS for that but honestly, it clearly won't benefit you, you won't perform better, it's not a magic screen.

The XG2431 does not have a good feeling in terms of input lag, I even tried a second time because a guy on Reddit told me that my old one had a problem (the second was the same and my opinion had not changed ):

- A disturbing input lag with strobing (too disturbing)
- Without strobing it was really meh and uninteresting
- OSD control was one of the worst I've seen on a monitor
- The black equalizer was quite weird
- Not bright (in strobing on the highest modes even in the dark you have trouble seeing things clearly)

In the end, having perfect motion blur on paper does not make a screen a perfect screen, clearly not, you have lots of other parameters that come into account such as personal tastes such as a better ergonomic OSD, a screen that swaps between several profiles quickly, a custom overdrive etc.

You do what you want but I don't recommend the XG2431, at least for Apex, Overwatch and Osu, I found it bad.

But remember that I don't have the absolute truth, especially if you play other games.

[Sirius]

Hi, I made a small update of the topic, so I'm approaching 1 month soon with this VG279QM and... I'm going to send it back ! so I explain my experience:

I mainly play Apex Legends, I also play MMO very rarely (I got into it recently) and I also play Overwatch 2 from time to time, I also run COD Cold War just to test screens etc and I also go a lot on social networks.

Here are the positives and negatives point:



[Positives] :



- Cheap ( 350 euro ~ )

- Feels smooth the first few days, the impression of 280hz is present.

- IPS panel



[Negatives] :



- The 27 inch in 1080p resolution is infamous, never again!
In game impossible to understand anything and I even have trouble following what is happening in motion because it's disgusting, basically yes, I mean that a weak Pixel Per Inch adds a kind of ghosting , I don't understand how or why but in motion I really don't find it incredible, all that because it's pixelated

- Color accuracy for a IPS is horrible, is like the VG259QM, even the XG259CM do better colors.

- The feeling of having a veil of dirt, the anti-reflective treatment is weirdly good, not too grainy, but I have the impression that the black equalizer is strong or something, at least, I don't know, there is no depth to the image, it seems that nothing stands out, the enemy compared to the map/trees/grass are glued.

- Writing on forums or going on social media is really a hard task when you have experienced 1440p or even 4K it's really not that great, even with the best settings I don't like it at all !

- ELMB-SYNC or even simply the ELMB on this screen is absolutely useless, it perform very bad and the feeling in game is really bad.




[ Conclusion ] :

For CS:GO/Valorant usage, it is probably a good choice for the price but if you play at other games like Apex Legends, Overwatch or even Battlefield, avoid this monitor.

It's just my personnal experience ( even if certain point are totally objective ) but i can't recommend this monitor at all, i feel it is a little bit overrated.
At first I didn't pay attention to 1080p on this 27inch, I forced myself and said to myself (man you'll get used to it and after that it will be normal) where actually, TN panel , I "can" get used to, the 27 inch 1080p, no, absolutely not.

On this screen I just feel like I'm so stupid as if my brain didn't react, I tried with different keyboards, different mice, different PCs, always the same, I feel stupid and at times I don't react to the enemy, everything is "troubled" whatever it is with or without anti-aliasing.

There is what i see when i play ( An absolutely garb*ge image quality ) :

[MatrixQW]

How’s your experience with this monitor and the xg259cm? seeing that you’re currently testing out both of these monitors. I’m stuck on deciding between two of these, heard that vg279qm only worth it if you could get the quisda panel

Note that i'm talking about the VG279QM 27 inch, not the 25inch variant which call VG259QM
The magic panel story is only for the VG259QM, not the VG279QM, right ?


The biggest negative point of the VG279QM is that you can't have two profiles to change like that quickly for games or Youtube / Twitter for evening, I always do that personally, a profile to play and a profile when I want to go on Youtube / Rtings etc, otherwise it burns the eyes

In addition it is not even compatible with Asus Widget Display...

It has quisda panel, you can check through service menu (hold buttons power and joystick).
But what's the difference?
What's so magic about it?

Asus Widget Display works, use this version of DisplayWidget.

vg279qm-widget.jpg (157.52 KiB) Viewed 2788 times

[MatrixQW]

- Color accuracy for a IPS is horrible, is like the VG259QM, even the XG259CM do better colors.

There is what i see when i play ( An absolutely garb*ge image quality ) :

About the colors, I never tried other IPS monitors so I don't know how good or bad VG279QM looks but it is fine for me with Racing mode and color temperature 'Normal'.
According to Rtings, with their ICC profile post-calibration file, color inaccuracies are fixed but I read somewhere on BlurBusters that ICC files can cause issues, dont know wich type, if input lag or something.


As for those images they do look pretty weird, like not defined. You were standing still or moving?
What game is that? Apex Legends?
Maybe I can install it and try it on that same spot to see if it looks the same and is actually a pixel density thing.
I installed Doom 2016 demo from Steam and image quality seemed fine. Not sure how to compare this game with those images from that game.

[MatrixQW]

One of the best information i found is a thread here in blurbusters.
I found it yesterday and it has a massive impact to the grafic in fortnite.
I had much blur if i try to look at a weapon from the sky and now its gone.
Also it feels like the ghosting is a bit better. Have a look here if u want: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7414&hilit=VG279QM
I try the 120 Overdrive thing and it looks a lot better then before.
Also i try this color calibration thing from a youtube video, there is a link to a site which has a better color profile for the monitor. Looks better then before after i set it up. You can found it here if u want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wzEt0bM0QM

I'm answering here so the other post stays on topic.
That is true for VG259QM but the 27'' panel behaves different. You sure you have the 27'' ?
If you check Rtings response time tables for OD 80 and OD 120, at 120 there is alot of overshoot even with Shadow Boost and rise/fall is just slightly lower.
I tested OD 120 and the ufo shows the overshoot. OD 80 is better.

[Sirius]

It has quisda panel, you can check through service menu (hold buttons power and joystick).
But what's the difference?
What's so magic about it?

Asus Widget Display works, use this version of DisplayWidget.

vg279qm-widget.jpg

Like i said, sorry but i've resend this monitor few days ago but i do not know that we can know the panel model on service menu.

Asus Widget Display doesn't work for me on my unit and this software is really bad done imo, you doesn't have all things and i don't very like this software anyway.

[Sirius]

About the colors, I never tried other IPS monitors so I don't know how good or bad VG279QM looks but it is fine for me with Racing mode and color temperature 'Normal'.
According to Rtings, with their ICC profile post-calibration file, color inaccuracies are fixed but I read somewhere on BlurBusters that ICC files can cause issues, dont know wich type, if input lag or something.

Do not confuse the gammut that the screen can reproduce and the fact that it respects the colorimetric Delta, these are two different things.
As for ICC profiles, that doesn't mean much, I never use that thing, cause me some issues sometimes, mostly when i swap monitors for testing.

Even by "calibrating" it, it's neither a Wide Gammut, nor a screen that has a good Delta, at least, if you use parameters to play, because the screen have "good" colors only if you don't use high contrast/saturated colors etc, otherwise it will remain better than a TN because it's an IPS but the gammut that it can create is not good enough.
The XG259CM for example is better and have a better range before it start to have color clipping.
Like you said you never compared another IPS, that's probably why you find it good without issue.

As for those images they do look pretty weird, like not defined. You were standing still or moving?
What game is that? Apex Legends?
Maybe I can install it and try it on that same spot to see if it looks the same and is actually a pixel density thing.
I installed Doom 2016 demo from Steam and image quality seemed fine. Not sure how to compare this game with those images from that game.

What are you implying by weird ?
The photos were taken at a reasonable distance from where I am at an arm's length from the monitor, another really zoomed (accentuated) and another not zoomed where I brought the camera closer, an example to show what a 27-inch 1080p offers in Apex Legends with the naked eye.
Of course, you won't see the pixel lines like in the photos, that's logical, but you can see obviously the low pixel density that make blurry image with anti-aliasing or some aliasing without anti-aliasing.

[Sirius]

You sure you have the 27'' ?

No that's an Intel Core I9-Formula 1 800hz....
Ofc that's a VG279QM > 27 in the name is for 27inch

If you check Rtings response time tables for OD 80 and OD 120, at 120 there is alot of overshoot even with Shadow Boost and rise/fall is just slightly lower.
I tested OD 120 and the ufo shows the overshoot. OD 80 is better.

I didn't even dare to try the od 120 because in terms of motion clarity, 80 was already good and honestly don't get me wrong the response time was insane except that that's not what worries me but the overall image quality, like Boomchakadah said here :

Don't you think 1080p on a 27'' looks terrible?

Boomchakadah was right, It looks terrible, you can re-read the topic.

Oh, I only just noticed that you're the one who said that is perfectly fine even in the front, wait, uh ? :

By using less pixels, won't it increase density? Maybe I'm mistaken on how this works.
Anyway, you say terrible but it's fine for me. Browsing is not an issue and for movies and gaming which is what I aimed for is excellent.
To each their own.

No. Pixel density is how tightly packed together the pixels are in a given area. Using fewer pixels by reducing the resolution has no effect on pixel density.
I can't recommend a 27'' 1080p monitor considering that 27'' 1440p monitors can be found for around $350. 1080p on a 27'' is fine in tac shooters like CSGO and valorant, but in open-world battle-royale shooters like Apex and Warzone, you'll have trouble seeing targets at long range.

We've already talked about it, Boomchakadah has already answered you, it's too little, the density for the first few days seems sufficient but in real use, it's not while you can have for the same price 1440p today, AOC also done a 1440p 24inch.

It is not because you're satisfied with it and you don't have other screens to for comparison that it is recommendable and clearly visible, we all have different requirements, after all, some are still happy with 720p!

But in fact, this topic was intended to ask if the VG279QM was still good in 2023 with my criteria, which is different from you, I read reviews and decided to give it a try.
I tried it and I saw it with my own eyes without relying on certain opinions, because the opinion of yourself is often the best.
I sent it back and I didn't like it for all the reasons mentioned above :

[Negatives] :



- The 27 inch in 1080p resolution is infamous, never again!
In game impossible to understand anything and I even have trouble following what is happening in motion because it's disgusting, basically yes, I mean that a weak Pixel Per Inch adds a kind of ghosting , I don't understand how or why but in motion I really don't find it incredible, all that because it's pixelated

- Color accuracy for a IPS is horrible, is like the VG259QM, even the XG259CM do better colors.

- The feeling of having a veil of dirt, the anti-reflective treatment is weirdly good, not too grainy, but I have the impression that the black equalizer is strong or something, at least, I don't know, there is no depth to the image, it seems that nothing stands out, the enemy compared to the map/trees/grass are glued.

- Writing on forums or going on social media is really a hard task when you have experienced 1440p or even 4K it's really not that great, even with the best settings I don't like it at all !

- ELMB-SYNC or even simply the ELMB on this screen is absolutely useless, it perform very bad and the feeling in game is really bad.




[ Conclusion ] :

For CS:GO/Valorant usage, it is probably a good choice for the price but if you play at other games like Apex Legends, Overwatch or even Battlefield, avoid this monitor.

It's just my personnal experience ( even if certain point are totally objective ) but i can't recommend this monitor at all, i feel it is a little bit overrated.
At first I didn't pay attention to 1080p on this 27inch, I forced myself and said to myself (man you'll get used to it and after that it will be normal) where actually, TN panel , I "can" get used to, the 27 inch 1080p, no, absolutely not.

On this screen I just feel like I'm so stupid as if my brain didn't react, I tried with different keyboards, different mice, different PCs, always the same, I feel stupid and at times I don't react to the enemy, everything is "troubled" whatever it is with or without anti-aliasing.

There is what i see when i play ( An absolutely garb*ge image quality ) :

For the images just above, I prefer repeated but you say "As for those images they do look pretty weird, like not defined."

Sorry if i was not clear about that but yes, it's obvious that you won't see like that, it's an example, exaggerated, with physical and digital zoom to imitate as best as possible what we see on a game like Apex when we play a an arm's length away and in reality, that's what I was seeing (the second image is the most realistic, it's even perfect)
The last one is exaggerated to show pixel density and the first one is zoomed in heavily digitally and physically to show what a character model on Apex actually looks like from afar.

Well ! this topic ends there for me.

If you want to share information about your favorite monitor for others people, do so, but I also invite you to expand into new tests and comparisons, you will be able to see that there are a multitude of different and better monitors in different aspects.
If you want my personal and subjective opinion, I find it a shame to settle for 1080p 27 inches in 2023 and in the end, Boochakadah was right and I thank him for that, if you're happy with it, that's good for you and I hope that you will increase your knowledge over time and that you will test some others to see that there are much more exciting choices, I wish you a good day.