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Lev1n
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240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Lev1n » 07 Mar 2024, 02:33

Hello, I've been using Asus vg248qe since 2014. I used this monitor with 20 different rigs. Its still good for me. Recently my apartment lost power and and colors are got worsened. Brightness is 100 on everywhere(monitor menu nvidia etc). Its like i lightboost it to 120 hz. I cant use low brightness cuz of my migraine. I wanna buy new monitor but in Turkey options are limited dont wanna waste my money on garbage panels.

I searched a bit and have 2 monitors in my mind. These are xg2431 and second hand benq 2546k(from my friend). I use display scaling 1440x1080 thru cru. My question is which one should i buy?

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Sirius » 09 Mar 2024, 18:06

XL2546X, best Zowie for the price.
I have one actually.
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by kyube » 09 Mar 2024, 20:50

Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 18:06
XL2546X, best Zowie for the price.
I have one actually.
Can you do a testUFO pursuit shot and a crosstalk test of DyAc 2? Curious how it's performance is.
Curious how it stacks up to the XL2566K, X25 & S2522HG.
Not sure how the pricing is at your place, it's 540eur on geizhals... That's XL2566K pricing and the X 25 is much cheaper (and very likely better, knowing BenQ and their track record)
It better have sub 1ms MPRT strobing at that price point.

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Sirius » 09 Mar 2024, 21:37

kyube wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 20:50
Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 18:06
XL2546X, best Zowie for the price.
I have one actually.
Can you do a testUFO pursuit shot and a crosstalk test of DyAc 2? Curious how it's performance is.
Curious how it stacks up to the XL2566K, X25 & S2522HG.
Not sure how the pricing is at your place, it's 540eur on geizhals... That's XL2566K pricing and the X 25 is much cheaper (and very likely better, knowing BenQ and their track record)
It better have sub 1ms MPRT strobing at that price point.
The 66K are garbage if you want my opinion, too much crosstalk and cannot be tuned properly enough for my taste + the horrible coil whine and it was not perfectly smooth ( i've had 3 )
The X25 have poor contrast performance and seeing ppl on dark scene is hard ( black EQ is bad )
And the S2522HG, it's just bad, too grainy, slow, i don't like.

The 46X doesn't have coil whine ( maybe a little but you need to have the perfect ears ) while the 66k can be heard clearly.
It have a very good response time and input lag feeling, better crosstalk handling than old Zowie but 1080p small 25inch is the only limitation here, the DyAc2 is better than old if you want my opinion but it's not incredible either, i will do that here ( UFO test ) tomorrow, stay tune here ! ( it's time for me to sleep where i'm haha )

Just it's just a shame that no 1440p IPS is good apart from the PG27AQN, I even wonder why they don't release cheaper 240hz 1440p with ULMB2 with better panels because the current 1440p IPS are ultra bad (except the PG27AQN but it costs too much)

My next one will be the MSI OLED 1440P 360hz, I would decide between it or the Zowie, I stayed for years on an Acer XV272UX 1440p 240hz IPS and it is horrible, this XL2546X is better, the return to 1080p TN 25 inches hurts but I feel so free in my movements.

The price where i'm is 550 euro.
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by kyube » 09 Mar 2024, 21:46

Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 21:37

The 66K are garbage if you want my opinion, too much crosstalk and cannot be tuned properly enough for my taste + the horrible coil whine and it was not perfectly smooth ( i've had 3 )
The X25 have poor contrast performance and seeing ppl on dark scene is hard ( black EQ is bad )
And the S2522HG, it's just bad, too grainy, slow, i don't like.
Perhaps you've experienced frameskipping on your XL2566K models or you cannot sustain 360fps for proper 360hz DyAc experience on the XL2566K.
That panel shines when doing 240hz strobing with QFT, tuned with Blurbusters Utility or running native refresh rate unstrobed.
It achieves ~0.3ms MPRT when strobed, which is a astounding result. it beats CRT's in motion clarity.

Eagerly waiting for your XL2546X pursuit shots.

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Sirius » 10 Mar 2024, 08:05

kyube wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 21:46
Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 21:37

The 66K are garbage if you want my opinion, too much crosstalk and cannot be tuned properly enough for my taste + the horrible coil whine and it was not perfectly smooth ( i've had 3 )
The X25 have poor contrast performance and seeing ppl on dark scene is hard ( black EQ is bad )
And the S2522HG, it's just bad, too grainy, slow, i don't like.
Perhaps you've experienced frameskipping on your XL2566K models or you cannot sustain 360fps for proper 360hz DyAc experience on the XL2566K.
That panel shines when doing 240hz strobing with QFT, tuned with Blurbusters Utility or running native refresh rate unstrobed.
It achieves ~0.3ms MPRT when strobed, which is a astounding result. it beats CRT's in motion clarity.

Eagerly waiting for your XL2546X pursuit shots.
I've had 3 so I don't think that's the case and i'm done with this 66k tbh.
I've tried some QFT trick and 240hz ofc with Blur Buster's Utility and i've don't like the feeling + the horrible coil whine and It always have crosstalk, not enough good for me eyes.
I prefer the 46X and it seems to be more eyes friendly.

I sent here this evening blur test.
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Sirius » 10 Mar 2024, 19:55

kyube wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 21:46
Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 21:37

The 66K are garbage if you want my opinion, too much crosstalk and cannot be tuned properly enough for my taste + the horrible coil whine and it was not perfectly smooth ( i've had 3 )
The X25 have poor contrast performance and seeing ppl on dark scene is hard ( black EQ is bad )
And the S2522HG, it's just bad, too grainy, slow, i don't like.
Perhaps you've experienced frameskipping on your XL2566K models or you cannot sustain 360fps for proper 360hz DyAc experience on the XL2566K.
That panel shines when doing 240hz strobing with QFT, tuned with Blurbusters Utility or running native refresh rate unstrobed.
It achieves ~0.3ms MPRT when strobed, which is a astounding result. it beats CRT's in motion clarity.

Eagerly waiting for your XL2546X pursuit shots.
Sorry for late reply !

[ UFO TEST ] : BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 Premium - OD 13 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCn2c7TJPQ

[ UFO TEST ] BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 OFF - OD 15 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmr_aD9_kLI

I've not managed to get better with my smartphone ( Galaxy S21FE ) at this moment because i make these video very quickly in my friend house but in two days i will take the Zowie at my home and i will do another video UFO in better quality and replace this both videos.

My opinion about this monitor doesn't change but...1080p 25 inch TN panel in 2024...nah my eyes don't very like it, note that i don't play at CS/Valorant or games like that, Apex Legends are my main game but i play a lot of COD Cold War and i play rarely at Overwatch, i'm pretty sure in several weeks i will have an OLED 360hz on my setup xD
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by kyube » 11 Mar 2024, 12:51

Sirius wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 19:55


[ UFO TEST ] : BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 Premium - OD 13 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCn2c7TJPQ

[ UFO TEST ] BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 OFF - OD 15 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmr_aD9_kLI

Thank you.
Just to be sure, both of these are done at 960pps, correct? Could you attempt 1920pps as well once you got time?
Could you also do these two tests while using DyAc 2?

https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk
viewtopic.php?t=9406#p87695 => discorz MPRT ruler

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Sirius » 11 Mar 2024, 21:00

kyube wrote:
11 Mar 2024, 12:51
Sirius wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 19:55


[ UFO TEST ] : BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 Premium - OD 13 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCn2c7TJPQ

[ UFO TEST ] BenQ XL2546X - DyAc 2 OFF - OD 15 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmr_aD9_kLI

Thank you.
Just to be sure, both of these are done at 960pps, correct? Could you attempt 1920pps as well once you got time?
Could you also do these two tests while using DyAc 2?

https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk
viewtopic.php?t=9406#p87695 => discorz MPRT ruler
960pps yes.

i will do that in two days :D !
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: 240 HZ Suggestion

Post by Lev1n » 13 Mar 2024, 07:08

Sirius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 18:06
XL2546X, best Zowie for the price.
I have one actually.
Im not gonna pay that much money to a monitor. You used both 2546k and xg2431. xg2431 is half of the cost of 2546k in my country. Which one you suggest?

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