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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 25 Mar 2024, 05:00

DukeDice929 wrote:
25 Mar 2024, 02:33
XL2546X is an old TN panel, try something else.
It lacks variable refresh rate (G-Sync/Freesync), has more input lag on refresh rates less than 240 Hz (which is no go with 60-120Hz console gaming), bad angles (what TNs are known for). The only upside for this particular model is DyAc aka strobing. Otherwise stay away from it in 2024. Wait for more OLED panels or get yourself a good fast-IPS monitor.
This monitor is new with a double sided strobing.

It is G-sync compatible and are better than 99% of IPS.

OLED cost more than 1k.
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Supermodel_Evelynn » 26 Mar 2024, 10:22

Sirius wrote:
25 Mar 2024, 05:00
DukeDice929 wrote:
25 Mar 2024, 02:33
XL2546X is an old TN panel, try something else.
It lacks variable refresh rate (G-Sync/Freesync), has more input lag on refresh rates less than 240 Hz (which is no go with 60-120Hz console gaming), bad angles (what TNs are known for). The only upside for this particular model is DyAc aka strobing. Otherwise stay away from it in 2024. Wait for more OLED panels or get yourself a good fast-IPS monitor.
This monitor is new with a double sided strobing.

It is G-sync compatible and are better than 99% of IPS.

OLED cost more than 1k.
The double sided strobing seems pretty useless at anything below 240 HZ because of severe cross talk, something DYAC 2 was supposed to solve

Pretty much all IPS are G-sync / Freesync compatible

OLED are very cheap and you can get the latest OLED 360HZ with glossy screen I might add for $749 free shipping

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG-271QPX-Q ... ref=sr_1_1

^ MSI has launched these GLOSSY OLED at an astonishingly low price with 3 year burn in warranty thanks to new heat sink tech

Glossy monitors are a thing people used to dream about just 3 years ago let alone an OLED

Matte coating monitors especially TN looks like Vaseline smeared sh!t and severely degrades image quality.
However if Vaseline smeared sh!t is your thing you can get regular OLED gaming monitors for $700 or often $600 on sale.

All of which are significantly cheaper than a 540 HZ TN crap that can't even do real 540 HZ mind you those 540 HZ TN are more in line with 240 HZ OLED because of how slow LCD technology is.

With that said if the XL2546X supported strobe utility and 60 HZ single strobe mode it would easily be worth the price as strobing is absolutely necessary at 60 HZ where it has the biggest impact. But at this rate BenQ has no offering that competes with the XG2431 cause of blur buster 2.0 certification assuming you get a good working unit that is.

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Boop » 27 Mar 2024, 00:42

Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
540 HZ TN crap that can't even do real 540 HZ mind you those 540 HZ TN are more in line with 240 HZ OLED because of how slow LCD technology is.
Comparison of 540Hz TN, 500Hz IPS, 480Hz OLED, 360Hz OLED, 360Hz IPS, 240Hz OLED in Overwatch. No strobing.
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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 27 Mar 2024, 08:09

Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
The double sided strobing seems pretty useless at anything below 240 HZ because of severe cross talk, something DYAC 2 was supposed to solve
Zowie never claim that DyAc2 will give better performance at lower refresh rate, their monitors are always sold to perform at the desired hertz rate, like the XL2566K, they said that if you do less FPS there is no point in buying it.
They only claim that DyAc2 is more eyes friendly and having less crosstalk than old DyAc at same refresh rate.
Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
OLED are very cheap and you can get the latest OLED 360HZ with glossy screen I might add for $749 free shipping

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG-271QPX-Q ... ref=sr_1_1

^ MSI has launched these GLOSSY OLED at an astonishingly low price with 3 year burn in warranty thanks to new heat sink tech
Not all people live in US, OLED cost more than 1K in EU and in other country.
Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
Matte coating monitors especially TN looks like Vaseline smeared sh!t and severely degrades image quality.
However if Vaseline smeared sh!t is your thing you can get regular OLED gaming monitors for $700 or often $600 on sale.
I don't understand anything you say other than talking in a vulgar way, TN are not worse than IPS in terms of coating (did you see Alienware/Dell coating on their IPS/TN lmao ? they look horrible), semi-glossy are actually worse because they have much more reflections and reduce sharpness like matte but yes, no matte treatment should exist anyway.

However it is a good treatment in LAN competition.
Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
All of which are significantly cheaper than a 540 HZ TN crap that can't even do real 540 HZ mind you those 540 HZ TN are more in line with 240 HZ OLED because of how slow LCD technology is.
That's called Refresh Compliance but keep in mind that your IPS are pratically never compliant to their refresh rate, if you want higher refresh compliance on IPS you need to get a LOT of Overshoot on your face to get a true Hertz experience on some of IPS/VA panels.
TN are better in terms of refresh compliance and managed Overdrive better.
Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
With that said if the XL2546X supported strobe utility and 60 HZ single strobe mode it would easily be worth the price as strobing is absolutely necessary at 60 HZ where it has the biggest impact. But at this rate BenQ has no offering that competes with the XG2431 cause of blur buster 2.0 certification assuming you get a good working unit that is.
I have literally no issues with my XL2546X, works perfectly at 240hz, input lag are instantaneous, crosstalk are not bad at all at max refresh rate and it's for now the best TN experience that i've had with all TN monitor that i've tested, this one does not coil whine, does not have weird color clipping that you cannot fixed, does not have any overshoot, i don't care about low hertz, for solo games i play on my big LG Glossy OLED TV, i've played for 2 years with 1440p IPS and i prefer so much this TN panel, yes a TN panel believe it or not.

I can't wait to test the MSI that you'll link above, i've plained to test that since when it was release but the delivery is so long and i hope QD filters will not hurt my head like my previous QD monitors does.

You already have CRT's and XG2431 for 60hz/120hz strobe niche.
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 27 Mar 2024, 08:17

Boop wrote:
27 Mar 2024, 00:42
Supermodel_Evelynn wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 10:22
540 HZ TN crap that can't even do real 540 HZ mind you those 540 HZ TN are more in line with 240 HZ OLED because of how slow LCD technology is.
Comparison of 540Hz TN, 500Hz IPS, 480Hz OLED, 360Hz OLED, 360Hz IPS, 240Hz OLED in Overwatch. No strobing.540_480_comparison.png
The IPS Alienware look horrible to me, the PG27AQN without strobing looks dissapointing, PG27AQDM not that bad but clearly useless now (and have trash coating, text fringing etc).

To me, the LG 480hz and the PG248QP (with strobing, not strobing on this image sadly) are both best monitors actually.

But not everyone play CS/Valorant/LOL etc
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Supermodel_Evelynn » 30 Mar 2024, 23:19

I should be getting my XG2431 this Friday coming can't wait to test out the QFT trick with it and play some street fighter 6

Can't stand that nasty blur at 60HZ, I will use Extreme mode so the flicker won't be too bad but there is also the interpolation software on steam lossless_scaling frame generation app that runs it at 120HZ with slight increase in latency so I will also try that.

I have an intel video card, Arc A750 8GB model, it has something called "Smart Vsync" it can eliminate tearing without the use of VRR so that should work nicely maybe now I won't have to use RTSS

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