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BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by DV2FOX » 19 Mar 2024, 00:51

In the search for a monitor change , from my BenQ XL2420T TN to TN (due to IPS and VA having their worse issues for my use) i came across BenQ's XL2546X

However i've read that it might have some disadvantages on Reddit about it , atleast from the title https://www.reddit.com/r/MotionClarity/ ... /?sort=new

So my questions are, compared to my actual monitor mentioned above:

1. Does it have any improvements regarding colours etc? (I know TN's colors are crappy, even after calibration, but no worser issues like IPS/VA and TN technology might've changed a bit for the better in a way)

2. When the link above's title says that running it at 120hz might be horrors in games (And keep this in mind this: I'm talking about PC USAGE, NOT CONSOLE!), what do they mean?.I mean, clearly you're not moving away from above 24-25" 1080p. Does it means there's loads of ghosting/traces/blur?

3. Any other possible things i should keep in mind?. Is that DyaC that important or can i disable and enjoy the monitor still?

Uses: AAA games a la ALAN WAKE 2, RESIDENT EVIL, DOOM ETERNAL, anything that comes, along basic colour usage in Photoshop

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Supermodel_Evelynn » 21 Mar 2024, 12:24

There is no improvements regarding colors, TN colors are dog shit.

The monitor works great at 240 HZ with DYAC 2

Works like dog shit at 120 HZ with DYAC 2 is filled with cross talk and no support for blur buster strobe utility either.

These Zowie monitors are overpriced TN junk, get the blur buster 2.0 XG2431 IPS right now on sale for $144 on Amazon new free shipping

The XG2431 has horrible matte coating tho very hazy and grainy but so does Zowie and most monitors.

There might be a way to peel it off

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by DV2FOX » 21 Mar 2024, 13:13

I've seen reviews about the VS one, but most of em says that after months or even 1 year of use the monitor simply dies, and i'm not ready to have a ride with that money spending Russlan roulette

Are there any NON OLED/VA alternatives?

Yes, i know TN's colors are not good at all, but i grew with em and seeing all the issues seen on IPS backlight bleed and VA's smearing is, again, a "Pick your poison" world that's hard to choose

ZOWIE monitors have Coil Whine, other brands are overpriced. It's a hard time even tho people says it's easier for being 2024 tech

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Supermodel_Evelynn » 22 Mar 2024, 06:46

This is NOT true at all, me and my friend both gave XG2431 going on 3 years now and works fine.

Those models that died are a very vocal minority of anecdotal evidence and reddit idiots looking for karma points.

There is absolutely no statistical evidence that shows the XG2431 has any sort of higher failure rate than anyother brand. I have had DELL monitors that failed on me in 3 months, people have had ASUS ROG monitors that failed, I have seen more reviews of samsung monitors failing than anyother brand

Viewsonic is one of the most durable brands that exist. Many of the other brands also use Bots and Fake Reviews which they pay for in order to get their 4.5 star rating on Amazon etc

Stop being scammed by so called "reviews"

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 22 Mar 2024, 12:21

DV2FOX wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 13:13
I've seen reviews about the VS one, but most of em says that after months or even 1 year of use the monitor simply dies, and i'm not ready to have a ride with that money spending Russlan roulette

Are there any NON OLED/VA alternatives?

Yes, i know TN's colors are not good at all, but i grew with em and seeing all the issues seen on IPS backlight bleed and VA's smearing is, again, a "Pick your poison" world that's hard to choose

ZOWIE monitors have Coil Whine, other brands are overpriced. It's a hard time even tho people says it's easier for being 2024 tech
Hi, i have actually the XL2546X and weirdly, this is the best Zowie that i've seen, i've never managed to accept any Zowie monitor for a long time because it's small 25inch, DyAc have crosstalk even with better parameters and idk why but i cannot managed to keep one on my desk for long time but finally, i keep one, the XL2546X.

This one is very different, colors are "bad" but still better than previous TN and tbh you get used to it very quickly, the DyAc2 performance is pretty good, there is always a little bit of crosstalk but this is clearly not the worse that i've tested, like, i prefer so much this XL2546X compared to the XL2566K.
Without DyAc the monitor perform very well and you'll be happy because this one doesn't have any coil whine !

The 66K was very bad in this regards ( i've had 5...yes :? ! )

I've made UFO Test, i'll do better UFO Test in few days :

DyAc 2 Premium - OD 13 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCn2c7TJPQ

DyAc 2 OFF - OD 15 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmr_aD9_kLI
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by DV2FOX » 22 Mar 2024, 13:03

First of all, i appreciate the KIND comment!!

Second, forgive me for the upcoming wall of text but if i don't detail things out you'd miss my objectives on a new monitor ^^;;;

Regarding the TN panel's "improvements" well ,heard TN panels evolved a tad bit for the better even if not going past their reason to be built (competitive) and SPECIALLY the coil whine part on the ZOWIE monitors (Curse you, BenQ..). I am looking for this specific panel because, for me, it has the "least of issues regarding a panel" from my POV (It might have an overall panel' brightness that doesn't have great blacks and has shit colours even after a bit of calibration, but at least it doesn't have DISTRACTING IPS backlight bleed nor VA's smearing...)

...But there's one small thing that worries me and that hasn't been asnwered AT ALL, and it's the 120hz mode's issues that i've stated in the 2nd point from the 1st post shown in the link from the same post (I do kindly ask to read through it)

What i'm trying to say is that there MIGHT BE SOME GAMES (GOG's OLD 60hz games like DUKE NUKEM 3D, BLOOD, DOOM, etc) and then new ones like DOOM ETERNAL, ALAN WAKE 2, etc) that might NOT be able to go past the 120hz option avaliable in their IN-GAME settings (Developers' decision) and if because of that i am going to have such strobing issues (or worse UFO testing ghosting) then i'd just hold off.

HOWEVER the redditor above might've mentioned the 120hz issue, but NEVER SHOWN a visual proof of how it looks like, be it a screenshot/photo, be it a video...

Because if that issue only happens on 60?/120hz but, let's say, doesn't happens in 144hz and 240hz modes (if that monitor has 144hz, of course), then i could jump the gun out on the XL2546X

I'd need to see 60hz (<--Frigging old games sense!) and 120hz (Some actual games' limitations) games' strobing or atleast the UFO sample thingy screenshots/video to see if they're EQUAL to my BenQ XL2420T, see last link below (Because if it's identical then NO PROBLEM, i've dealt/got used with it. Mostly noticed when panning an image with Adobe illustrator, for example but since it happens with black lineart and white background then no prob, but again, GAMES TOO!!)

As for my build to move such power etc, it's got a recent partial upgrade (with an ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS nor it's 32GB DDR4 RAM changed). A RYZEN 5800X3D NO OC, GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super, among other powerful stuff.

How my monitor's "traces"/strobe/crosstalk? looks like would be like the top image's "Faint" but more white-er on the UFO's red/white part in the following BB link

https://blurbusters.com/faq/advanced-st ... stalk-faq/

How my monitor does the UFO test in a just now recording by myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvUILDvQEEo

I don't know much about Dyac nor OD etc. I just want a similar or better experience with the new monitor, and not sure if compared to my monitor i'll see some input lag or whatever

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 22 Mar 2024, 16:51

DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 13:03
First of all, i appreciate the KIND comment!!

Second, forgive me for the upcoming wall of text but if i don't detail things out you'd miss my objectives on a new monitor ^^;;;
Don't worry i'll do the same very often xD

DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 13:03
Regarding the TN panel's "improvements" well ,heard TN panels evolved a tad bit for the better even if not going past their reason to be built (competitive) and SPECIALLY the coil whine part on the ZOWIE monitors (Curse you, BenQ..). I am looking for this specific panel because, for me, it has the "least of issues regarding a panel" from my POV (It might have an overall panel' brightness that doesn't have great blacks and has shit colours even after a bit of calibration, but at least it doesn't have DISTRACTING IPS backlight bleed nor VA's smearing...)
Well, yes, they evolved a little bit in terms of colors and viewing angles ( from left to right ) and it is not that horrible on my XL2546X tbh, like you said "least of issues regarding a panel" it's exactly that, in fact, contrast ratio in paper is maybe the same as IPS but i have also an Acer XV272UX ( 1440p IPS QD-IPS 270hz ) and it's horrible, i prefer so much the Zowie, because even for reading text, the Zowie is more eyes friendly, the backlight is ok whether during reading text at night or during games at day, i have multiple profiles for that anyway and yes, like you said about backlight bleed, it's better than my IPS, it's not OLED and it's not like a very very good VA panel ( even if i've never seen any good VA panel tbh lmao ) but this Zowie is pretty good for that and for a small LCD TN, about smearing...this one have a little bit of smearing when scrolling text but it's not horrible, you probably have too on your actual Zowie, that's an issue with VA and TN that can happen very often unfortunately but i don't have any smearing in games.

DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 13:03
...But there's one small thing that worries me and that hasn't been asnwered AT ALL, and it's the 120hz mode's issues that i've stated in the 2nd point from the 1st post shown in the link from the same post (I do kindly ask to read through it)

What i'm trying to say is that there MIGHT BE SOME GAMES (GOG's OLD 60hz games like DUKE NUKEM 3D, BLOOD, DOOM, etc) and then new ones like DOOM ETERNAL, ALAN WAKE 2, etc) that might NOT be able to go past the 120hz option avaliable in their IN-GAME settings (Developers' decision) and if because of that i am going to have such strobing issues (or worse UFO testing ghosting) then i'd just hold off.

HOWEVER the redditor above might've mentioned the 120hz issue, but NEVER SHOWN a visual proof of how it looks like, be it a screenshot/photo, be it a video...

Because if that issue only happens on 60?/120hz but, let's say, doesn't happens in 144hz and 240hz modes (if that monitor has 144hz, of course), then i could jump the gun out on the XL2546X

I'd need to see 60hz (<--Frigging old games sense!) and 120hz (Some actual games' limitations) games' strobing or atleast the UFO sample thingy screenshots/video to see if they're EQUAL to my BenQ XL2420T, see last link below (Because if it's identical then NO PROBLEM, i've dealt/got used with it. Mostly noticed when panning an image with Adobe illustrator, for example but since it happens with black lineart and white background then no prob, but again, GAMES TOO!!)

As for my build to move such power etc, it's got a recent partial upgrade (with an ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS nor it's 32GB DDR4 RAM changed). A RYZEN 5800X3D NO OC, GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super, among other powerful stuff.

How my monitor's "traces"/strobe/crosstalk? looks like would be like the top image's "Faint" but more white-er on the UFO's red/white part in the following BB link

https://blurbusters.com/faq/advanced-st ... stalk-faq/

How my monitor does the UFO test in a just now recording by myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvUILDvQEEo

I don't know much about Dyac nor OD etc. I just want a similar or better experience with the new monitor, and not sure if compared to my monitor i'll see some input lag or whatever
This monitor just have 60hz and 240hz refresh rate that can be selected in Nvidia Control Panel but i'm pretty sure you can probably do a proper 144hz resolution by using Custom Resolution Utility :D

You probably talk about crosstalk, old zowie aren't that good imo about that, i've never liked Strobing because of that, fortunately Blur Buster Utility exist do reduce that BUT it is not compatible with the XL2546X ( anyway...that's pretty sad... ) and crosstalk with this monitor honestly is ok ! it's not horrible, clearly ;)

So tell me, do you want that i try to do some UFO test or anything like that but in 60hz/120hz ? if you want, i can do that very quickly and upload on Youtube, i have a stand for smartphone and a Samsung Galaxy S21FE, i'm sure i can make a "good" UFO test about that.

Anyway, this XL2546X doesn't have single strobe at 60hz or something like that but tell me what you want.

I play at Apex Legends mostly and it looks very good, i've tested a lot of monitors and it's for now the "best" for my use but maybe i will go on OLED because i will tested the MPG271QRX next month.

Oh and don't forget to ping my name when you put a comment because i've don't be notified ;)
Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by DV2FOX » 22 Mar 2024, 17:13

First of all, nice new Emul avatar. Suits ya ;3

Back on topic:

My monitor's NOT a ZOWIE AFAIK ^^;;...No Z red logo. Only the typical black stand with red touches for the headset holder, the cable management... It's from 2013. But i can imagine the "successor" XL2411K is one and... Well, ya know...

Well, in my monitor whenever i want to change the Hz (Only did it for Beatmania IIDX 28 BISTROVER emu) i simply right click on Windows 10's desktop on a free space, "Screen Settings"->Scroll down to "Advanced Screen Settings" and from there i can choose 50, two 59.940, 60, 99,93 and 120hz, hence the question about how many modes does the XL2546X monitor has with this NON Nvidia Panel method nor any other custom stuff (A screenshot of the menu i've just said, and can be seen below, would help)

My monitor's resolutions: https://prnt.sc/VytTh4FA-4W5

I mean, a friend of mine has an ASUS ROG XG27AQ and has 60hz , 120hz , 144hz and OC'd 170hz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 1baa4a05d7&

If it's not too much to ask, yes please, for 60hz and 120hz, and if 144hz are there too so be it.

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Falkentyne » 22 Mar 2024, 17:17

Benq/Zowie needs to start supporting 60hz single strobe on their monitors. They stopped enabling it ever since they switched from the Mstar scalers to the realtek versions (the last models that worked were XL2720Z, XL2420Z, XL2411Z and XL2430T).

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Re: BenQ XL2546X doubts

Post by Sirius » 22 Mar 2024, 20:01

Well...i've made a huge answer and i've delete the page by a mistake :evil: :lol:
no problem, I'll start again.
DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:13
First of all, nice new Emul avatar. Suits ya ;3
Haha, Umu Umu desu wa ! ( i really like Emul, funny )
DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:13
My monitor's NOT a ZOWIE AFAIK ^^;;...No Z red logo. Only the typical black stand with red touches for the headset holder, the cable management... It's from 2013. But i can imagine the "successor" XL2411K is one and... Well, ya know...
Oh sorry to be honest i've not read entirely the post at first, that's why haha ^^"
That's a pretty old monitor ! not even a gaming monitor, anyway i've find that your BenQ have a tons of Overshoot and that's...pretty bad, here is what i called Overshoot >

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DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:13
Well, in my monitor whenever i want to change the Hz (Only did it for Beatmania IIDX 28 BISTROVER emu) i simply right click on Windows 10's desktop on a free space, "Screen Settings"->Scroll down to "Advanced Screen Settings" and from there i can choose 50, two 59.940, 60, 99,93 and 120hz, hence the question about how many modes does the XL2546X monitor has with this NON Nvidia Panel method nor any other custom stuff (A screenshot of the menu i've just said, and can be seen below, would help)
Yes i know what you mean, here is what i have :

Windows :

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Nvidia :

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Like you see, no 144hz option but you can create that probably with the software Custom Resolution Utility.
DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:13
If it's not too much to ask, yes please, for 60hz and 120hz, and if 144hz are there too so be it.
Check that here : https://www.youtube.com/@AquilaeYT/videos

DV2FOX wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 17:13
Hopefully you can get pinged with the below. If not, let me know how to ping!

@Sirius
In fact, that's simple, you just need to make an answer by cliking on this little cube at the right >

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And then you need to scroll to the end of the text and start to write here below at the end after the "quote" >

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Current temporary test : XG2431 | Main monitor : actually nothing | I've had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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