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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by pinobot » 07 Feb 2015, 16:25

Intensity 21 area 0

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intensity 25 area 0

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think 20~21 is playable, 25 is too dark for me.
25 is a little darker than the 'Impulse' setting on my Sony TV.

I kinda like Intensity 21 Area 45

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In FPS games , stuff that's moves fast while spinnen around your axis is in the top two-thirds of your screen.

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 07 Feb 2015, 16:56

Interesting.
Your intensity 21 area 0 looks like Strobe duty 007 or 8 on mine (judging from the thickness of the crosstalk at the top UFO). Your 21 setting has more crosstalk at the top than my strobe duty 006 (1.0ms). so your persistence is probably higher than 1.0ms at intensity 21.

But your max intensity is 25 on yours which corresponds to duty 001 on mine, looks identical to my 001. (0.167ms persistence), although that's hard to tell from a camera shot.
but I have no idea what your 002, 003 and 004 correspond to, because 021 intensity on yours does not correspond to strobe duty 005 on mine at all, it's higher than 006....

Your intensity 21 area 45 looks a lot like my strobe duty 006 area (strobe phase) 054. That's a nice setting to use for FPS games especially if you are prioritizing the top of the screen looking good, while the Hud is at the bottom. Your observation is correct about FPS games and the top of the screen :D

You just have to be careful if you increase the refresh rate while still using a VT tweak (only a problem if you go from 100 to 120hz at area 054-->054 will shut off the backlight). But since you're using 120hz you're fine (can't use VT tweaks at 144 hz anyway).


Note that I can not use a higher strobe duty than 006 with phase 054...all higher values (higher than 1.0ms persistence) get ignored.
So with phase 54 I can only use 001-006 persistence (0.167ms to 1.0ms persistence). This is at 100hz, though. So phase 60 shuts off the backlight.

At your 120hz it would probably be duty 006, phase (area) 045.

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by pinobot » 07 Feb 2015, 19:12

Finally settled for intensity 20 area 44.

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by CybeRFernandes » 07 Feb 2015, 19:15

pinobot, which VT Tweak are you using?

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by pinobot » 07 Feb 2015, 20:05

VT 1500

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100Hz Intensity 21 Area 55

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 07 Feb 2015, 20:54

It's a bit different for 120hz, but one thing I noticed when you "invert" the strobe phase, at 100hz, 059 strobe phase --which gives you the lowest persistence (0.167ms with a VT 1500 tweak, regardless of strobe duty/intensity setting), one point of strobe phase before the backlight shuts off, has a difference of exactly ONE PIXEL of crosstalk position at the top of the screen higher up, compared to strobe phase (area) 000, with strobe duty 001 on Z (or intensity 25 on 2430T). At area 59, the top crosstalk is fully and 100% completely off the screen with NO hint of the beginning of the "black" field (if you notice, the black field is when the position of the images starts to get 'shifted' to the right; you can see that if you raise or lower the strobe phase). But at area 0 (strobe phase 000) combined with strobe duty 001 (which is also 0.167ms persistence assuming a VT tweak), you can see the VERY FIRST pixel of crosstalk strobe pulse settling errors at the top of the screen. Only the first pixel, though. So there's just 1 pixel of difference, between phase=59/intensity=irrelevant as its forced to lowest persistence, vs strobe phase 000, strobe duty 001. But at strobe phase 058 and as you go lower (at 120hz this starts at 050 and you go downwards), you see the top look perfect as the bottom crosstalk starts moving slowly up.

At area 059 at 110 hz (50 at 120hz), you can't use duty (intensity) adjustments, since as I explained, area 058 only allows 0.167 and 0.333ms persistence for duty, and area 057 only allows 0.167, 0.333, and 0.5 ms, and so on), so you have to lower the area value to free up more intensity adjustments. So you can get the top or bottom of the screen to your liking, depending on the game you are playing.
(that corresponds to 050, 049 and 048 area at 120hz, etc).

*edit* again
Your 100 hz area 55 intensity 21 should correspond to 0.835 ms persistence, which is equal to strobe duty 005 and strobe phase 055 on mine (anything above 0.835ms gets ignored)

I think the highest usable setting that isn't too dim is area/phase 056, which gives strobe duty=4 0.668 ms (maximum), or 0.500, 0.333 or 0.167ms as the values you can change. Looks like these settings still are valid for XL2430T. (which you can use on yours as intensity 25, 24, 23 or 22, I'm assuming). That's 0.668ms is still a bit too dark for my liking, so I limit myself to 055 area (0.835ms maximum persistence).

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by pinobot » 07 Feb 2015, 21:10

100Hz Intensity 25 Area 59 (60 is black)

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I think it's too dark for me to game with these settings. Lowering the intensity from 25 doesn't make the screen lighter.
If i low the intensity to 24 and the area to 58 the screen does indeed get brighter, then 23-57, 22-56, etc etc.
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 07 Feb 2015, 21:19

Yeah.
At area 59, youre at the lowest persistence. Higher values aren't possible because raising area past a certain point (with a VT tweak) drops the maximum persistence available. When you're 1 point from where the screen backlight shuts off, only 0.167ms is available.
At area 58, you can use 0.167ms and 0.333 ms. (24 and 25 intensity).
Are area 057, you can use 0.167, 0.333 and 0.5ms (23, 24 and 25 intensity)
And so on. :)

That's the price you pay pushing the strobe phase (area) that high to put the crosstalk at the bottom (to improve the top).
It is a quite nice feature to have, as long as you remember to be careful about changing refresh rates to a higher value with another VT tweak active.

Now if only we could do something about those overdrive artifacts!!! (but Benq blur reduction does not use per line overdrive, so there probably isn't much you can do anyway...)

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by CybeRFernandes » 07 Feb 2015, 21:26

I've tryied the VT 1500 tweak and the settings according to pinobot, 120hz, with 20 intensity and 44 area but the monitor it's significantly less brighter which makes cs:go gameplay look terrible :|

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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by pinobot » 07 Feb 2015, 23:01

CybeRFernandes wrote:I've tryied the VT 1500 tweak and the settings according to pinobot, 120hz, with 20 intensity and 44 area but the monitor it's significantly less brighter which makes cs:go gameplay look terrible :|
Forget about that setting.

At 120 Hz try:
Intensity 25 - Area 50 = black screen
Intensity 25 - Area 49 or 0
Intensity 24 - Area 48 or 0
Intensity 23 - Area 47 or 0
Intensity 22 - Area 46 or 0
...
...

At 100 Hz try:
Intensity 25 - Area 60 = black screen
Intensity 25 - Area 59 or 0
Intensity 24 - Area 58 or 0
Intensity 23 - Area 57 or 0
Intensity 22 - Area 56 or 0
...
...
The difference between the two settings (like Area 59 or 0) is the choice between the crosstalk on top of the screen or the bottom of the screen.
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