Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

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nightmaster47
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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by nightmaster47 » 28 Feb 2016, 05:00

Falkentyne wrote:Beats me.
You're comparing TV's and gaming monitors also...
I can't answer this for you. All I do is play video games...

and remember I took this picture from *10 feet* away.
that's about 3 meters.

If I take it from 3 feet it looks bad like yours because of TN gamma shift. The camera lens is too small. It's a cheap HMX-F90 camera. And it's a 27" 1080p monitor also.

Yes I got quite lucky with it. No backlight bleed or bad pixels at all. And everyones getting horrible backlight bleed and panel lottery on the 1440p 144hz Gsync IPS monitors..
So.. only selecting from few-dozens.. What a shame.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by nightmaster47 » 28 Feb 2016, 13:18

Why is this happening? As far as I know they all (monitors and TVs mentioned here) have Edge LED. But TVs are just ideal no matter of size..

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by Oofloom » 01 Mar 2016, 04:07

I may be misremembering (thanx Dubya!), but I think high-hz monitors generally don't have image quality as good at typical 60hz monitors. Again, IIRC, the high-hz monitors have gamma problems and possible other issues due to refreshing at such high rates.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by nightmaster47 » 07 Mar 2016, 12:37

Just look at this. This is ridiculous! A 110 EUR 21.5" TN 60Hz (ViewSonic VA2248-LED) is better than all this 400-700 EUR+ 144Hz TNs.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by aeliusg » 07 Mar 2016, 17:24

nightmaster47 wrote:Just look at this. This is ridiculous! A 110 EUR 21.5" TN 60Hz (ViewSonic VA2248-LED) is better than all this 400-700 EUR+ 144Hz TNs.

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You understand that ideally you wouldn't be able to read the text, right? You can have the same effect as on the Viewsonic with your Dell, just move it down a bit so it is below eye level. Red text is all you will see.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by nightmaster47 » 07 Mar 2016, 23:52

Lololol. You don't even understand what that test means. In means my ViewSonic almost doesn't have color shift, when you're looking directly on it. While this new fancy (crappy) 144Hz all have color shift even if you looking directly in the center of the screen.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by aeliusg » 08 Mar 2016, 01:15

nightmaster47 wrote:Lololol. You don't even understand what that test means. In means my ViewSonic almost doesn't have color shift, when you're looking directly on it. While this new fancy (crappy) 144Hz all have color shift even if you looking directly in the center of the screen.
No, I understand it. You're mad that the screen doesn't have uniformly terrible gamma like your previous TN. Like I said, you can have it the same way by putting the screen mostly below eye-level. Everything will be washed-out like your old screen, but at 8-bits it still looks better than that garbage you're holding on to. Enjoy. :)

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by Glide » 08 Mar 2016, 04:29

nightmaster47 wrote:So, I was mistaken when told iiyamas are the best.
In terms of quality they are like others.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF BAD MONITOR (COLORS UNIFORMITY):
http://i.imgur.com/x4B663I.jpg
That just looks like it's a panel with bad viewing angles to me, not a uniformity issue.
nightmaster47 wrote:THIS IS ACCEPTABLE/GOOD LEVEL (cheap ViewSonic VA2248-LED21.5” TN 60HZ):
http://i.imgur.com/iTdFn9d.jpg
This is just as bad as the image above.
It just seems to be less noticeable because the panel (or image) is far less saturated.
If I increase the saturation of the photo, the viewing angle is just as bad. (orange on top, yellow on the bottom)
The general uniformity is much worse as there are ugly horizontal bands across the whole panel.
nightmaster47 wrote:THIS IS HOW IT MUST TO BE (PEFRECT/CLOSE TO PERFECT COLORS UNIFORMITY, LG 47” fullHD TV 47LV4500 100-200Hz):
http://i.imgur.com/SPIUTWc.jpg
And here we see why you should only buy IPS panels if you care about viewing angles.
nightmaster47 wrote:Just look at this. This is ridiculous! A 110 EUR 21.5" TN 60Hz (ViewSonic VA2248-LED) is better than all this 400-700 EUR+ 144Hz TNs.
http://i.imgur.com/gF3bCiF.jpg
That is a terrible result. I don't think you understand how that is supposed to look.


Don't buy TN or VA panels if you care about viewing angle. Get one of the new IPS monitors - probably the Acer XB271HU.

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by nightmaster47 » 08 Mar 2016, 08:10

Glide
Ok, thanks for info.

So, all TNs are so bad?

Anyway on my ViewSonic it's not so noticeable. Just because of panel size?

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Re: Is it possible to get a decent 144Hz screen? (QC?)

Post by Glide » 08 Mar 2016, 09:40

nightmaster47 wrote:So, all TNs are so bad?
They can be varying degrees of bad, but yes they're all bad in my opinion.
I'd avoid VA panels too. (note: AHVA is IPS-type, not VA-type)
nightmaster47 wrote:Anyway on my ViewSonic it's not so noticeable. Just because of panel size?
Probably a combination of lower contrast, lower saturation, and smaller size.

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