Difficult choice! [ASUS MG279Q or Dell S2716DG?]
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:13
Which monitor is better the ASUS MG279Q or Dell S2716DG?
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If 240Hz is a high priority, but remember if you're not playing ultra-competitive sports (e.g. eSports, paid championships, etc) and you said you want to watch movies -- then considering high-Hz IPS is a worthy consideration, especially since it'll still be a lag-improvement over practically any 60Hz VA.Endy wrote:There is another option: Acer xb272bmiprz Predator(240Hz, TN, full HD.)!?
You can get all of the above with these monitors:Endy wrote:1) ULMB, G-sync. 2) IPS with beautiful colors.
It's not just "slightly less", really. It's huge. Years ago I upgraded from an old-school 60Hz gaming TN (77Hz OCed) that already had near-zero input lag (tested by Prad,) to a 144Hz TN and then to my current 144/165Hz IPS. Both the high-refresh TN and the IPS provide hugely reduced input lag compared to the 60Hz TN simply due to the higher refresh. And the TN and IPS feel the same to me lag-wise when both run at 144Hz. Actual lag tests do reveal small input lag differences in favor of the TN, but this isn't something I can actually feel. These differences come down to numbers that to me only seem interesting to high level competitive game players.Chief Blur Buster wrote:ASUS ROG PG279Q - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
Acer Predator XB271HU - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
AOC AG271QG - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
Viewsonic XG2703-GS - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
They are more expensive for your budget, obviously, but high-Hz IPS G-SYNC panels do exist. Both Jorim and RealNC has them, and they are pretty good, supporting IPS, G-SYNC, ULMB, 1440p, 165Hz. You will actually have slightly less input lag on these display than on existing 60Hz VA display. Not as low lag as TN, but you're still getting a big lag upgrade over a VA + 60Hz panel.
'Feel'-wise any and all 144hz (and obviously 240hz) monitors I've had felt much more responsive input-lag wise than any 60hz panel (when run at native refresh rate, of course). Even the Samsung CFG70 (at least the 24'') that was tested by pcmonitors.info reportedly only had +-4.14ms input latency input-to-screen-action, and that's a VA-panel (the faster Tn's going around +-3.2 according to that site), so I doubt if input lag is an actual thing to worry about with any of the popular, quality 144hz panels.RealNC wrote:It's not just "slightly less", really. It's huge. Years ago I upgraded from an old-school 60Hz gaming TN (77Hz OCed) that already had near-zero input lag (tested by Prad,) to a 144Hz TN and then to my current 144/165Hz IPS. Both the high-refresh TN and the IPS provide hugely reduced input lag compared to the 60Hz TN simply due to the higher refresh. And the TN and IPS feel the same to me lag-wise when both run at 144Hz. Actual lag tests do reveal small input lag differences in favor of the TN, but this isn't something I can actually feel. These differences come down to numbers that to me only seem interesting to high level competitive game players.Chief Blur Buster wrote:ASUS ROG PG279Q - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
Acer Predator XB271HU - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
AOC AG271QG - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
Viewsonic XG2703-GS - 27" 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz G-SYNC
They are more expensive for your budget, obviously, but high-Hz IPS G-SYNC panels do exist. Both Jorim and RealNC has them, and they are pretty good, supporting IPS, G-SYNC, ULMB, 1440p, 165Hz. You will actually have slightly less input lag on these display than on existing 60Hz VA display. Not as low lag as TN, but you're still getting a big lag upgrade over a VA + 60Hz panel.
TL;DR: do not be afraid of lag issues on these IPS displays. They might have other issues (more ULMB crosstalk compared to TN, IPS glow, BLB QA issues), but input lag isn't one of them.
If only that was available in Europe... The XG2560 can't be found anywhere here it seemsChief Blur Buster wrote:Yes, the best 144Hz of each panel tech, the brute Hz can quite compensate enough to be preferable over even a 60Hz TN.
Meaning, the best 144Hz+ VA and best 144Hz+ IPS, can feel preferable (latency-wise) to even a 60 Hz TN.
Now, the OP is playing on a 60Hz VA. So pretty much anything 144Hz+ will feel better, unless it is one of the laggier models (very old 120Hz monitors like the Samsung S23A700D did have quite a bit of lag) but modern 144Hz panels advertised as a "gaming monitor" will not unplayability except in the elite situations (paid career eSports players) where single-milliseconds begin to matter more. But for the majority, I wouldn't worry about latency of a panel tech. Likewise, there are good colorful TN panels almost as good as IPS/VA as long as you sit square-and-center in front of them, and not too close (no closer than one outstretched armlength) -- then the viewing angle of TN doesn't matter much. But monitors optimized for gaming, often don't prioritize color quality. If you want 240Hz with better TN color quality, I like the ViewSonic XG2530 as they precalibrate for better-than-average TN colors. But you are using an NVIDIA card and probably you prefer to have GSYNC (there also happens to be the ViewSonic XG2560 GSYNC monitor).