Discuss the upcoming generation (August+) 2018 monitors

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Discuss the upcoming generation (August+) 2018 monitors

Post by BlurZapper » 21 Jul 2018, 09:48

List of monitors I am looking into:

MSI Oculux NXG251
Release; "Q4 at $599"
- pros: New AUO TN panel with supposed better "view angles and color rendering".
.5 ms response time, 240hz, 300 nit
- cons: 1080p and Q4 release
(Info from TFT Central)

1440p 240hz TN
Release; "July" According to TFT although no example monitors yet.
- pros: First 1440p with 240hz, possibly using the .5 ms response time TN panel too
Also possibly like above monitor "better view angles/color rendering"

TFT Central provides a table of future AUO releases, ctrl-F AU Optronics TN Film Panel Options Summary at http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/hi ... h_rate.htm

No news on 1440p 240hz yet, July is almost over. Hoping for August to have some news to drop, as it has been quiet since May.

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Post by Notty_PT » 21 Jul 2018, 16:47

Personally only interested on the Asus XG248Q 240hz monitor, already available for pre order in my country. Waiting for reviews on input lag and 60hz behaviour too.

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Post by k2viper » 22 Jul 2018, 15:14

I'm interested in 27" 240hz on newer "0,5ms" AUO panels. No models announced yet.
Also I hope with these new panels, Nvidia will allow G-SYNC's ULMB to function at full 240hz.

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Post by ahmedpc03 » 23 Jul 2018, 00:57

iam interesting to see the new technology of the panels (micro led) that well replace the oled.
and it well be available on the market by the end of this year and well be more available in 2019

hope to see a gaming monitor using micro led soon

oled is 0.01 ms response time which is almost 0, and hope the micro led well be the same thing

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Post by k2viper » 23 Jul 2018, 02:19

ahmedpc03 wrote:oled is 0.01 ms response time which is almost 0, and hope the micro led well be the same thing
Do not expect blur-less operation of these, even with such minimal response times, they're still sample-and-hold displays.

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Post by RealNC » 23 Jul 2018, 08:18

k2viper wrote:
ahmedpc03 wrote:oled is 0.01 ms response time which is almost 0, and hope the micro led well be the same thing
Do not expect blur-less operation of these, even with such minimal response times, they're still sample-and-hold displays.
Yep. Rolling scan OLED is what would be optimal here. They basically scan the image out more similar to a CRT compared to a strobed LCD, which results in less harsh flicker. There was a rolling scan OLED release by Dell that did rolling scan at 60Hz, but it cost $4000 and is now discontinued.

However, I'm afraid that if/when OLED manufacturers solve the pixel retention problems on big panels, they will simply move away from rolling scan and just do sample and hold. I suspect the only reason that Dell display was using rolling scan is to save the pixels, not to reduce motion blur. If they can, they will do sample and hold and only sell rolling scan monitors at a "premium." (Much like what they do with strobed LCDs currently, even though adding strobing to a monitor is dirt-cheap by now.)
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Post by k2viper » 23 Jul 2018, 10:10

RealNC wrote:However, I'm afraid that if/when OLED manufacturers solve the pixel retention problems on big panels, they will simply move away from rolling scan and just do sample and hold. I suspect the only reason that Dell display was using rolling scan is to save the pixels, not to reduce motion blur. If they can, they will do sample and hold and only sell rolling scan monitors at a "premium." (Much like what they do with strobed LCDs currently, even though adding strobing to a monitor is dirt-cheap by now.)
Isnt there already a microLED displays produced and publicly running?
I remember Overwatch League main stage uses Samsung wall-wide panel, but its not microLED I think. Anyway there's probably existing working prototypes, and we can already look and suppose what scanout type they are using.

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Post by ahmedpc03 » 24 Jul 2018, 01:01

k2viper wrote:
ahmedpc03 wrote:oled is 0.01 ms response time which is almost 0, and hope the micro led well be the same thing
Do not expect blur-less operation of these, even with such minimal response times, they're still sample-and-hold displays.
maybe you are right

but at least low motion blur with good colors and contrast than the tn

i hope to see computer monitors using the micro led panels

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Post by Q83Ia7ta » 24 Jul 2018, 16:14

How you guys think will that 1ms -> 0.5ms change be good noticeable like 144hz -> 240hz jump?

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Post by RealNC » 24 Jul 2018, 16:23

Q83Ia7ta wrote:How you guys think will that 1ms -> 0.5ms change be good noticeable like 144hz -> 240hz jump?
There will be no change for normal operation. For strobed operation though (motion blur reduction modes) this should really minimize crosstalk, or even eliminate it completely. I hope.
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