oof_oof wrote:I get the impression that whatever i am seeing is either FRC ( only sometimes ) or .. maybe the ufo tests are fucking with my screens and making them seem worse. I do notice that I get insane weird flicker after using the inverse pixel walk tests. I should just stop even checking the tests instead of obsessing over them.
I really have no idea though. I am just really frustrated at this point and want to know what on earth the real problem is.
like could it be my asus motherboard being stupid? like what is it?!!
Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2546?
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I do not think the problem is the test or your pc. Otherwise the community would not report it so much. This happens to many more usersoof_oof wrote:I get the impression that whatever i am seeing is either FRC ( only sometimes ) or .. maybe the ufo tests are fucking with my screens and making them seem worse. I do notice that I get insane weird flicker after using the inverse pixel walk tests. I should just stop even checking the tests instead of obsessing over them.
I really have no idea though. I am just really frustrated at this point and want to know what on earth the real problem is.
like could it be my asus motherboard being stupid? like what is it?!!
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Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
The inversion artifact visibility varies a lot from monitor to monitor, but different models have less intense-looking inversion than others.
The ViewSonic XG2530, for example, does not have a visible chessboard-patterned inversion pattern, while is more visible in other models.
Voltage swapping algorithms (inversion) are supposed to be as invisible as possible but sometimes inversion artifacts appear.
The ViewSonic XG2530, for example, does not have a visible chessboard-patterned inversion pattern, while is more visible in other models.
Voltage swapping algorithms (inversion) are supposed to be as invisible as possible but sometimes inversion artifacts appear.
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Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
can watching that UFO test for like a min make it so my desktop background looks like it's flickering for the next little while?
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Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
then on your monitor there is no inversion of pixels or is it only little visible? interestingly, your monitor is the cheapest of all the 240hz monitors (at least in my country, Spain). Then should I request another unit or not? After 5 I do not have much hopeChief Blur Buster wrote:The inversion artifact visibility varies a lot from monitor to monitor, but different models have less intense-looking inversion than others.
The ViewSonic XG2530, for example, does not have a visible chessboard-patterned inversion pattern, while is more visible in other models.
Voltage swapping algorithms (inversion) are supposed to be as invisible as possible but sometimes inversion artifacts appear.
Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
This is something I mentioned a lot on the forum. Most 240hz monitors have bad inversion artifacts, but there are exceptions from the ones I tried.
Asus XG248Q, wich uses a different panel from all other 24,5 240hz models, doesn´t suffer from any artifacts. Asus PG258Q with Gsync enabled also doesn´t suffer from any, but this monitor has higher input lag and can show other kind of image problems:
My Asus XG258Q 240hz also has OD artifacts, altho I could reduce their effect a lot with custom settings, but you can still notice them. I only kept this monitor because it is too fast input lag wise, crushing the competition.
If you want a safe buy, Asus XG248Q is your choice. This monitor has no overdrive artifacts. It has a very aggressive coating tho, wich may cause smearing/grainy effect.
Asus XG248Q, wich uses a different panel from all other 24,5 240hz models, doesn´t suffer from any artifacts. Asus PG258Q with Gsync enabled also doesn´t suffer from any, but this monitor has higher input lag and can show other kind of image problems:
My Asus XG258Q 240hz also has OD artifacts, altho I could reduce their effect a lot with custom settings, but you can still notice them. I only kept this monitor because it is too fast input lag wise, crushing the competition.
If you want a safe buy, Asus XG248Q is your choice. This monitor has no overdrive artifacts. It has a very aggressive coating tho, wich may cause smearing/grainy effect.
Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
RE: Asus PG258Q - That looks like a screenshot to me. How would that be able to show monitor artifacts?
Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
Is that a screenshot? Looks like a screenshot... Those aren't "display artifacts". That's how the game looks.
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Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
I have the PG258Q and on the grey section only I can see a horizontal pixel inversion pattern of vertical lines.franmarquez95 wrote:https://www.testufo.com/inversion#patte ... bars&ppf=1
My investment appears in that pattern of this test. Only in the gray color, in the other colors of the test does not happen. Basically the pixels look fatter, like a chessboard. It shows if you get closer to the screen. Zowie tells me that it is normal in all 240hz monitors, they even told me that they compared my model with the Asus PG258Q. They told me I was more remarkable in the asus than in mine. I just want to know if the chessboard, whether in less or greater visibility, appears on all 240hz monitors with a tn panel.
I can say that the intensity in my current monitor is less than in the first Alienware AW2518HF. It was horrible ... But after 5 monitors like that ... it's probably a standard. Do not you think?
Re: Pixel inversion artifacts, something normal in Zowie XL2
theangryregulator wrote:RE: Asus PG258Q - That looks like a screenshot to me. How would that be able to show monitor artifacts?
I have no idea, it wasn´t made by me, took it from reddit. I faced the exact same problem on my PG258Q but I don´t know the name of those artifacts/problems. I noticed them on Quake Champions and other dark games, is like you can see "pixels" on some colour gradients. Like I said I have no idea what the correct technical term is.RealNC wrote:Is that a screenshot? Looks like a screenshot... Those aren't "display artifacts". That's how the game looks.
This PG258Q image problem made me want to sell it quick. Also PG258Q input lag was unaceptable for my standards. Apart from those artifacts, it has nice overdrive with Gsync enabled.
240hz monitors are basically made for competitive gamers that want their max potential. They are not good all around monitors, maybe except for the Asus XG248Q.