so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

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sk1p
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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by sk1p » 22 Mar 2020, 01:47

davidoo wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 17:59
Just purchased the monitor earlier. Waiting for it to arrive.

Whats the most optimal settings, for lowest input latency? Freesync/ULMB and all such stuff off?
I recommend for the lowest input lag turn off Freesync/ULMB and all such stuff, use default 240hz and 60 OD mode, also use scaling on display, there is the screen shot of my settings http://prntscr.com/rki9ky

With 280hz mouse is smimming in CS GO ) with OD 80 strange feeling of the game. I tested all these settings in CS GO and best game feeling and results I have on default 240hz, 60OD and display scaling without check mark( I don't know how it's say in English)) it's on my screen shot)

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by Burgz » 22 Mar 2020, 03:06

sk1p wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 01:41
alexander1986 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 17:21
sk1p wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 02:02
Hi!

Registered there to answer you. (English is not my native)

I bought Asus VG279QM for CS GO and already using for two weeks. And I like it, but not without drawbacks.

I had before many TN 240hz panels: Benq Zowie XL2540, Alienware AW2518HF, LG 27GK750F, Asus Nitro XF252QX.

All of them I returned to the shop because of input lag, I had before them Asus VG248QE(144hz, TN) and this one was faster then all of these TN panels and I can play better with VG248QE. I like most XF252QX - input lag(3.3 ms regarding to tftcentral) was near VG248QE, but VG248QE faster.

What I can say about Asus VG279QM: yes, colors better than VG248qe, but I like also colors with XF252QX and it interesting for me to compare them in real life, but I don't have XF252QX , returned to shop in August. View angles weren't problem for me on TN because I sit in front of a monitor, but VG279QM has IPS view anlges and it's good ! )

About 27 and FullHD: yep,I see a little bit of "corn" while reading text, but this is not problem for me, there are no problems in games with it, but I would recommend to take Asus VG259QM better(the same panel, but 24.5 variant for FullHD which is more optimal to my opinion).

About input lag: VG279QM has 2.3ms input lag regarding to tftcentral and I can play good with it in CS GO ! As good as with Asus vg248qe and sometimes better, but one thing I want to note: I didn't know before that with Geforce videocards it's better to set scaling on Display in Nvidia settings, before I always used scaling on GPU( also my VG248QE didn't have display variant, only GPU), with scaling on display you have lower input lag than on GPU. I didn't check this moment with 240hz TN panels and probably I could play well with it, but as I said didn't know that before and was using GPU scaling. Also VG279QM has 2.3ms against 3.3ms of XF252QX, in theory VG279QM should be faster.

About response time: 3.6ms regarding to tftcentral with 240hz and 80 overdrive mode, but I am using 240hz and 60 OD(default setting) - seems to me better in CS GO, also tft recommends to use stock 240hz without overclocking to 280hz. So with 240hz and 60 OD you have 5.1ms response time regarding to tftcentral and I can play with it very well in CS GO, it's hard to notice a difference between the fastest XF252QX(with 2.6ms) and VG279QM.

One strange thing I want to note that I can see better smoothness of 240hz on TN, but on IPS it seems like 144hz, but I checked 144hz mode and smoothness more on 240hz(like it should be). Subjectively, but it seems smoothness of 240hz more noticable on TN, but I don't know exactly)) For me main that I can play good with VG279QM in CS GO, before I could not do it with TN 240 panels.(like with my previous Asus vg248qe)

And also I don't see cross-hatching effect there, before I saw it with all TN panels. Also there is no ghosting effect.

So my conclusion that Asus VG279QM best 240hz panel which I ever used.

Good luck! )

hello, thanks a lot for the detailed answer ! : )

its interesting that you find this monitor better than for example xl2540 in CS go hmm very interesting! but maybe not so strange since xl2540 is older generation panel compared to new TN 240hz "0.5ms" panels, still interesting !

actually I also have asus vg248QE now for almost 8 years since 2013 or 2012 is when I bought it lol, but I still love it today, very solid monitor overall :d

I like to use my vg248qe with lightboost/strobing enabled at 10% / 120hz/120 fps or 120hz/240 fps in games because i'm oldschool CRT monitor gamer and sensitive to motion blur lol, and it does not feel much more laggy (to me anyway) than 144 hz without lightboost, maybe there is some extra milliseconds delay with lightboost but for me the crystal clear picture positives outweights the negatives, but of course this is subjective thing 100%


but I want to update to 240hz for lower lag and newer technology, and have been waiting for "perfect" 240 hz monitor to come, and was now waiting for xl2546S to be released, or maybe buy 2746S since this is available in my country, still not decided what to buy, xl2546S/2746S or this asus vg259QM/vg279QM monitor ^^



by the way if I can ask couple questions, did you test elmb-sync ON on the vg279qm at 240hz/240 fps ?

and maybe also other game than cs:go with maybe not solid 240 fps but varying fps 150-240 etc like pubg/fortnite or other more modern games, where its hard to keep 240fps 100% of time?

and/or elmb without elmb-sync ? so no freesync/gsync but strobing on?

it would be very interesting to know how you experience cross-talk and overdrive with elmb and/or elmb-sync ON on this monitor in this situations, at 240-280 hz/240-280 fps or 150-240 fps at 240 hz and so on,

and if possible maybe a photo of testufo blur test at 240/280 hz with elmb/elmb-sync ON would be very interesting to see also, I know there is screenshot on tftcentral but is not best example I think :p if you have chance to do this would be cool but is ok either way of course!


thanks again for the feedback ! is always nice to hear many persons and users real opinions and not just reviews from websites : ) cheers!
I don't use ELMB, but will try to test in the nearest future. I tried this on LG 27GK750F and my eyes hurted and also it adds input lag in CS GO, so I just leave it turned off. I tested in lower fps games Mechwarrior 5 mercenaries and Sekiro and there are no problems for me, I can play comfortable these games, don't have other on my PC right now, will try Doom Eternal soon. And as for my previous Asus vg248qe which I used for 2 years, my eyes don't tire on VG279QM after long 4-6 hours games in CS, but always were tired on VG248QE, wanted to note this as one more good thing.
That's probably because the VG248QE isn't flicker free iirc

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by sk1p » 23 Mar 2020, 06:35

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That's probably because the VG248QE isn't flicker free iirc
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Agree

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by hkngo007 » 25 Mar 2020, 16:05

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... e-aw2720hf

Dells 27" alternative. Appears to have lowest avg GtG of 3ms, all within refresh window and minimal overshoot, compared to all other ips 240hz.

Duno about colours etc tho -not huge priority for me.

I bought one! Happy to take questions- whenever it arrives....

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by alexander1986 » 26 Mar 2020, 10:11

hkngo007 wrote:
25 Mar 2020, 16:05
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... e-aw2720hf

Dells 27" alternative. Appears to have lowest avg GtG of 3ms, all within refresh window and minimal overshoot, compared to all other ips 240hz.

Duno about colours etc tho -not huge priority for me.

I bought one! Happy to take questions- whenever it arrives....
well, I don't know if it is possible to directly compare these numbers since they look a bit different testing methods? not sure, but if we look at *average* responsetimes it looks like the asus is quite a bit faster? , alienware aw2720hf from rtings at 240 hz "fast" /recommended OD setting :

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asus vg279qm from tftcentral.com at 240 hz overdrive 80 / recommended OD setting:

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3.6ms asus average response time vs 5.8 average alienware response time?

also the asus has the option of both VRR and strobing, at same time or separately, which I believe can be very useful for some people, maybe not for everyone though :p

maybe I am wrong but when looking at this data it seems the asus is quite a bit faster / more aggressive overdrive with super low overshoot anyway, and overshoot goes down to 0% if you run the monitor at 280hz (but then the response is not 100% within refresh window, although that will then be offset by the added motion clarity from the +40hz higher refresh rate, at least that is what tft central says in their testing)

personally i'm waiting for benq xl2546S now to be announced, and if its not announced in near future or released then will just get xl2746S I think !

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by hkngo007 » 28 Mar 2020, 12:27

Tftcentral according to this is using same 80% measurement (gtg 10 to 90%) as rtings.
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response_time.htm

Hopefully I'm not wrong haha but if I've read it right, tftcentral doesnt measure 0 to 100% - which is the 5.8ms dell rting figures. So the asus is at gtg 3.6ms vs dell at 3.0ms (not 5.8ms).

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by alexander1986 » 29 Mar 2020, 02:15

hkngo007 wrote:
28 Mar 2020, 12:27
Tftcentral according to this is using same 80% measurement (gtg 10 to 90%) as rtings.
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response_time.htm

Hopefully I'm not wrong haha but if I've read it right, tftcentral doesnt measure 0 to 100% - which is the 5.8ms dell rting figures. So the asus is at gtg 3.6ms vs dell at 3.0ms (not 5.8ms).

I dont know :p comparing numbers from two different testing methods/sites is kind of just guessing I think at this point,

but if rtings makes a review of the asus then that would help of course, also both these sites have made review of the acer xf252q for example and have quite different results and numbers because of different testing method I think, can check that out if you want maybe it helps in this case, maybe Chief could comment on it !

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by hkngo007 » 29 Mar 2020, 05:15

Lol i agree chwif should comment. Funny u say comparing between websites is guessing yet u compared it anyway :p

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by alexander1986 » 29 Mar 2020, 07:02

hkngo007 wrote:
29 Mar 2020, 05:15
Lol i agree chwif should comment. Funny u say comparing between websites is guessing yet u compared it anyway :p
^^ to be fair I wrote this in the start of my first reply in the thread though:

"well, I don't know if it is possible to directly compare these numbers since they look a bit different testing methods? not sure, but if we look at *average* responsetimes it looks like the asus is quite a bit faster?"



both look like great monitors though, with fast responsetimes and low input lag for being IPS panels, the asus also has ELMB and ELMB-sync + 280 hz overclock capability though which could be very useful for some, maybe not interesting for others, etc..

but something to keep in mind with TN vs IPS, the fastest TN panels are still faster by a decent margin I think, especially the lowest measured response times, if we look for example at tftcentrals numbers from acers 240hz xf252 TN monitor vs tftcentrals numbers on the new asus vg279qm IPS monitor, we can see TN in reality being quite a lot faster on many transitions even if average numbers are somewhat similar:

acer xf252q 240hz OD normal:

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asus vg279qm 240hz OD 80:


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so when comparing one of the fastest TN panel vs one of the fastest IPS panel from the same website/testing methods, we see transitions under 1 ms in some cases on TN, which is quite significant I think anyway, if we look at lowest and highest numbers it seems to me that IPS is still ~2 to 3 ms slower vs TN on several transitions, even if average numbers are closer than the lowest/highest numbers, hard for me to say how much this matters though :p

when I first saw reviews of these new fast IPS monitors I immediately wanted to get the asus, but after more thinking i'll just wait for benq to release the XL2546S, for me colors are not important only motion blur and response (also don't like IPS glow on dark content) and if that doesnt happen sometime in near future then will just get the XL2746S that is available now.. just my 2 cents!

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Re: so with reviews out, is asus vg279QM now the best gaming monitor available?

Post by forii » 01 Apr 2020, 10:34

Guys I already bought this Asus, version of 24 inch - VG259QM, I waitng for deliver for now.

I really hope the version of VG259QM will not be worse compare to 27 inch, because I already found that 27 inch has wider gamma. Hopefully thats only downside, I really want faster version like these 27 inch with low input lag.

I got questions though.

You guys said:
"-strobing + VRR + overdrive 60 with the framerate capped at 200fps so there's not *too* much frame variation.
tftcentral seem to conclude that setting the overdrive to 80 is the best choice if your framerate will be in the 200-280 hz/fps range when using VRR and strobing at the same time on this monitor, and 60 if in the 120-200hz/fps range, and finally 40 if in the 60-120hz/fps range in the game and/or at the quality settings you choose to play at the time,"
What is actually strobbing and VRR?

If it comes to the Hz I know that 240hz is most stable and best option + override in OSD for 80, but after I read that I believe if my fps will be around 120-200 fps range the best will be 60 right?

I play Call of Duty Warzone and even with 1080ti aorusu + 8700k after OC I cant get more than 200 fps.

So actually I should use 60 override, 240hz and... how can I turn on strobbing + VRR? i dont get it
U guys mean ELMB? I heard this hurts the eyes, or it doesnt in this monitor?

I heard it is best to run highest Hz of monitor = 280hz + in this case override at 60 (because I get avg fps = 160) + g sync + v-sync at NVCP only and cap fps at 160~, + probably NULL at off or on (dunno if its worth to ON)

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