BenQ XL2546S now announced on zowies website !

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BenQ XL2546S now announced on zowies website !

Post by alexander1986 » 09 Apr 2020, 11:09

https://zowie.benq.com/en/product/monit ... 2546s.html

have been waiting for this to appear on the zowie website for quite some time now, the xl2746S is already available and in stock in my country for example but have been skeptical about 1080p on 27" because of the larger pixels / less dense pixel pitch, but this is perfect for me anyway!

gonna get this one as soon as some shop has it in stock here in Sweden :mrgreen:

has the newer generation "0.5ms" TN panel, DyAc+, Freesync (and probably G-SYNC compatible) , out of all 240 hz strobed monitors I have seen testufo examples of BenQ always seem to have the best crosstalk and overdrive implementation at 240hz strobed anyway, another plus is being able to use the large VT 182 hz trick on these monitors for 182hz/182 fps with improved strobing quality (and its also easier to keep 182 fps stable in games rather than 240)

am excited anyway !

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Re: BenQ XL2546S now announced on zowies website !

Post by sosuyike » 09 Apr 2020, 12:00

Nice news, now is about 2-3 months until it hits the shops i think.
I saw this

Typ. brightness (cd/㎡)‎
320


Almost every panel is 400 cd/㎡ maybe its a typo?

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Post by Chief Blur Buster » 09 Apr 2020, 12:53

That's possibly DyAc+ strobed brightness. That's fairly bright for a strobe backlight.

DyAc is one of those voltage-boosted strobe backlight technologies that resist light loss during strobing. The good voltage-boosted strobe backlights can get about as bright as non-strobed (LEDs can usually be flashed over specifications by about 3x-5x power briefly, if cooled afterwards, like the OFF period between strobes).

What this means is DyAc+ is probably about 80% as bright as non-strobed. Some strobe backlights only achieve 10%-20% brightness of non-strobed.
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Re: BenQ XL2546S now announced on zowies website !

Post by ayukreizi » 10 Apr 2020, 00:04

would this new version be a noticable/significant upgrade from the normal XL2546? Or is it barely noticable? Personally I definitely noticed going from 144 to 240 for example.

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Post by Scorpion667 » 12 Apr 2020, 12:52

I have an XL2546 coming, eta tomorrow.

Not having realized the "S" model is on the horizon, I'm starting to regret my decision although I am coming from a 120hz XL2420T. Would it be worth returning the XL2546 and waiting for XL2546S? I suspect it's using the same panel as KD25F however I can't find direct, reliable input lag comparisons between that and XL2540/2546. Does someone have any comparisons between those?

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Post by Chief Blur Buster » 12 Apr 2020, 13:00

Scorpion667 wrote:
12 Apr 2020, 12:52
Not having realized the "S" model is on the horizon, I'm starting to regret my decision although I am coming from a 120hz XL2420T. Would it be worth returning the XL2546 and waiting for XL2546S? I suspect it's using the same panel as KD25F however I can't find direct, reliable input lag comparisons between that and XL2540/2546. Does someone have any comparisons between those?
XL2540 and XL2546 is pretty similar, the main difference is that XL2546 has a bunch of frills including much brighter DyAc strobe backlight (because ov voltage-boosted strobe backlight) -- much less light loss with DyAc-branded BenQ ZOWIE than those without the DyAc label. If you enjoy blur reduction and want brighter, then the DyAc ones are better.

Also -- IMHO, for Blur Busters -- the 0.5ms vs 1.0ms GtG is a bigger deal to me than the input lag difference between XL2546 and XL2546S.

Why is that 0.5ms a big deal to me? Strobe crosstalk reductions for DyAc. A 0.5ms reduction in GtG can potentially produce a greater-than-50% reduction in 240Hz DyAc strobe crosstalk. With no extra refresh rate headroom for strobe crosstalk reductions (240Hz has very little time for cramming GtG-between-refresh-cycles in the VBI), a monitor has to rely on the speed of GtG to prevent refresh cycles from ghosting into each other (high speed videos). Assuming you keep DyAc enabled during play.

Obviously, the devil is in the details -- such as how reliable the GtG ratings are and what the GtG100% rating is (since 0.5ms is a VESA GtG 90% measurement cutoff threshold) -- and how well the strobe tuning was done. But BenQ gaming monitors are very strobe-tunable (given Blur Busters Strobe Utility), except for the lack of easy user-accessible 128-level overdrive gain.
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Post by Mr1991 » 12 Apr 2020, 15:46

ayukreizi wrote:
10 Apr 2020, 00:04
would this new version be a noticable/significant upgrade from the normal XL2546? Or is it barely noticable? Personally I definitely noticed going from 144 to 240 for example.
Not going to be massive really, excited to see the specs tho hopefully they can lower the input lag a bit to match some of the newer ones

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Post by owenise » 14 Apr 2020, 14:32

So do you think the new 2546s when arrive, its gonna came with a tb painel with 0.5 MS? With 24.5 inches? Regrats

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Post by Chief Blur Buster » 15 Apr 2020, 09:52

owenise wrote:
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So do you think the new 2546s when arrive, its gonna came with a tb painel with 0.5 MS? With 24.5 inches? Regrats
It's TN, it's 0.5ms rated GtG and it's 24.5 inches. Yes.
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Post by michaelcycle00 » 15 Apr 2020, 12:33

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
15 Apr 2020, 09:52
owenise wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 14:32
So do you think the new 2546s when arrive, its gonna came with a tb painel with 0.5 MS? With 24.5 inches? Regrats
It's TN, it's 0.5ms rated GtG and it's 24.5 inches. Yes.
Hey Chief! Since I've noticed you are usually the one who replies to a lot of posts regarding problems with both the BenQ XL2540 & XL2546, I'd like to ask you something. Well basically, I've seen some people say it's blurry and causes huge eyestrain, among other things... While on the other hand, I've seen some others swear by the monitor and say it's the best thing a gamer can get (I won't be quoting pro's here since they really can't say anything bad about the monitor due to having a partnership with BenQ). My question is, would it have something to do with slow pixel responsiveness? Are pixel transitions not fast enough when you're doing flick shots? If that's the thing what benefit do you really get compared to a matured 144hz TN panel? Sharper looking images while doing normal movements perhaps? If I'm doing 360's I would expect better performance than a 144hz, not worse. And here's the thing, when BenQ advertises the new XL2546S in their social medias they don't even mention that this updated version uses a newer panel, they just talk about DyAc+. And when you ask them if it'd be a good option to upgrade from the XL2546, they tell you that while this new panel has a "slightly" faster response time and a tuned version of DyAc (necessary to have it be able to work with the faster .5ms panel), the gameplay benefits will be similar to the original and they even recommend you the XL2540 if you won't be using DyAc, which makes me think that they really didn't change much and both the blurriness and eyestrain is a very concerning thing to me.

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