05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by SmoothVelvetSlav » 27 May 2020, 01:01

id like to thank everyone for their contributions to this thread!

is there a reason the VG259qm is over 100-150cad cheaper than the MAG251RX

at this point theres no questions i should just buy the VG259qm? as i cant get it any cheaper for the time being, but the asus is 437cad no brainer right?

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by goa604 » 27 May 2020, 03:41

Crazy, i would never expect wired ps controller lag would be higher than bluetooth. Has anyone perhaps tried Asus rog pg258q? I have a chance to grab one used for 300 euro with warranty till 2023. I am currently on samsung cfg73. Cheers

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by life_at_1ms » 27 May 2020, 04:58

Did you test any over 1080? If so, then what's the best of the higher resolution ones? (I'm looking for 27", or 30" max).
Thanks.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Gunta0 » 27 May 2020, 05:02

New Screen MSI Optix PAG272QR2 Gaming Display with 27″ IPS Panel 1440p and 165Hz Refresh Rate with 10bits. I have no idea what it's worth compared to other 1440p in the same range.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by iopq » 27 May 2020, 05:48

life_at_1ms wrote:
27 May 2020, 04:58
Did you test any over 1080? If so, then what's the best of the higher resolution ones? (I'm looking for 27", or 30" max).
Thanks.
I have not heard of any over 1080p that are 240Hz

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 27 May 2020, 05:55

Alienware AW2521HF review(peak performance tests and general observations only), the freesync 240hz IPS monitor with some sort of variable overdrive.

Tools used

1. $500 digital oscilloscope
2. photosensor
3. data extrapolation to determine input lag

what is being measured?

pixel response times 10%-90%

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FAST overdrive @240hz
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2. Super-fast overdrive @240hz (NO g-sync)

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3. Super-fast overdrive @237hz (g-sync compatible on)
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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by RLCSContender* » 27 May 2020, 06:00

Coming soon, the best(based off my tests) and fastest 1440p IPS monitors (that doesnt' cost $2000). unfortunately the asus tuf VG27AQ didn't make the cut.

LG 27GL850-b (144hz 1440p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-p3)
Viewsonic Elite XG270QG (165hz 1440p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-P3)
Asus ROG Strix XG279Q (170hz 1440p IPS monitor) (125% SRGB 95% DCI-p3)

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MSI MAG251RX (240hz 1080p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-P3) (lottery panel)

can these 1440p REAL wide gamut IPS monitors be better than the MSI MAG251rx?(the overall best 240hz IPS monitor based off of my tests and my observations)


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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by life_at_1ms » 27 May 2020, 07:49

RLCScontender wrote:
27 May 2020, 06:00
Coming soon, the best(based off my tests) and fastest 1440p IPS monitors (that doesnt' cost $2000). unfortunately the asus tuf VG27AQ didn't make the cut.

LG 27GL8500-b (144hz 1440p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-p3)
Viewsonic Elite XG270QG (165hz 1440p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-P3)
Asus ROG Strix XG279Q (170hz 1440p IPS monitor) (125% SRGB 95% DCI-p3)

vs

MSI MAG251RX (240hz 1080p IPS monitor) (133% SRGB 98% DCI-P3) (lottery panel)

can these 1440p REAL wide gamut IPS monitors be better than the MSI MAG251rx?(the overall best 240hz IPS monitor based off of my tests and my observations)


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Thanks for that! I'm considering going with LG 27GL8500-b for now... How are the blacks? I do some video editing and deal with a lot of text so the colors & higher resolution is important.

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Re: 05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 27 May 2020, 09:35

RLCScontender wrote:
27 May 2020, 05:55
3. Super-fast overdrive @237hz (g-sync compatible on)
Heads up on motion blur photography:
First two pursuit images has a camera defocus,
The third pursuit image’s “sync track” has a significant tracking error that appears much worse compared to the other two.

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- Get the files transferred to a PC and use Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC), full screen mode, drag slider to find near good frames, and then use Control-leftarrow and Control-rightarrow in MPC to frame step (if this doesn't work, disable the "Fast Seek" checkbox).
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Post by Pazos » 27 May 2020, 09:39

ItwasLuck wrote:
26 May 2020, 02:33
RLCScontender wrote:
22 May 2020, 18:03
input lag results for anyone curious on which has the lowest overall input lag. You would be surprised. The nitro xv273x is probably the lowest input lag of all the monitors right now(not named OLED)

the 25" predator has excellent input lag too. Man, i too was shocked. yes, when i played rocket league, you might think that 0.4 input lag difference is miniscule, but in a dexterity heavy game like rocket league, it adds up. one button press is 0.4, but if you press buttons in your controller 200 times a minute, this will determine whether you get a perfect blindsided shot on goal or a WHIFF that will send your car flyign open for a counter attack.

for competitive gaming, the acer clones have the lowest input lag but the worst g2g averages.*at least that's what i measured*

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I am definitely keeping my Acer XB253Q GX. It is an outstanding panel, definitely not like that MSI you got from the lottery (Oh, do I envy you!!!). But regardless for gaming, I am having such a blast with this monitor. I did the human benchmark test and I am getting sub 200ms results so I believe the results you posted are definitely not that accurate to the individual panels.

You mention that 0.4ms input lag is huge, I definitely agree. I came from a Samsung SVA panel (144HZ) and I have to say, everything just seems way more SNAPPY (even at the same 120HZ). I am tracking targets (using VRB @120HZ) so well that my HS accuracy went up 2 folds!

For a real-world test, I loaded up CoD and picked a gun I never use so that I can see instantly how accurate I am. After 11 games, I am getting a headshot accuracy of 55%.

Keep in mind, my next best accuracy (with the gun I use the most) is only 24%. I'd say that is a major difference.

If anyone is curious, on CoD Warzone my headshot accuracy is 24% with an MP5 and 55% with an MP7. I believe this clear advantage has to do with how easy it is to track a moving target. The fluidity allows me to take shots that I normally do not take. And I felt this even when sniping with an HDR.

You mentioned earlier that G2G is more important than input lag and I have to disagree entirely. For gaming, input lag means everything. As long as the G2G is low enough that motion blur isn't noticeable, input lag should be the decisive factor in determining the best panel for gaming. I am willing to sacrifice 1ms of G2G if I have 0% overshoot. I do wish the Acer panels had better overdrive settings. The only option you can ever use is Normal.

In terms of quality, I believe the Acer Predator is much better especially compared to the ASUS 280HZ panel. My first panel (and the one I kept) has amazing black uniformity and imperceivable IPS glow in normal low-light conditions. I will make an update later for color accuracy.

I am curious about VRB however. I am stuck at 120HZ and it is impossible to go up to 144HZ. I was wondering if only the Nitro panel allows VRB @144HZ.

If anyone is in the know, please tell me why the Acer panels are so much better than the rest when it comes to input lag! TFT Central did a great review of the Acer Nitro XV273 and they believe it to have 0 signal processing. The only lag from the panel is simply the pixel response time element.

I also was wondering why you refer to them as Acer clones when the Nitro version has slightly lower input lag in your tests. I honestly believe that they all use the same panel. The 27" panel could just be slightly better actually. The Acer's just seem best for gaming. The colors on mine are actually quite good and I am picking up an X-Rite to calibrate mine. I did some DCI-P3 tests and I definitely see a difference so my panel is well above the sRGB spectrum. Now how close I can get to DCI-P3 will just be the icing on the cake.

I just have to say, guys, I LOVE this panel. I honestly have never seen such a drastic improvement in my gaming performance from any SINGLE upgrade. I have upgraded graphics cards, went from air to water cooling over a decade ago, replaced all fans with GT Typhoons (if noise had any impact on concentration lol), upgraded my mouse from a Zowie FK2 to an FM UL2, upgraded my headphones to the Audeze LCD-2C with a SMSL SU-8 DAC / THX 789 amp setup. And while each of those changes helped me slightly, nothing compares to upgrading to this panel. The advantage that I have in-game is just so perceivable, I am lost for words.
I'm also interested in this monitor and the the nitro VG252QX can you please upload some blur test with 240 hz?

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