05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

[RLCSContender*]

i've never owned the asus vg259qm but i'm fairly certain it has the same specs as the 27" version.

Forii here owned both and claimed that the 25" version showed ghosting at 80 OD so he reduced it down to 60od

generally speaking, the 280hz Asus is around 4ms response time with the fastest overall and gave the best overall gamign performance out of all the MONITORS that i've ever used. as long as you are at 280hz, you have a slight advantage over anyone who doesn't own the 280hz asus

what's funny is why so many ppl are apprehensive about OC to 280hz. doesn't make sense to me but that extra kick in frames was worth it when i had the 27" version

[RLCSContender*]

Maybe instead of arguing which monitor will be better maybe voted together for MSI MAG251RX on RTINGS.com and then for the next ones that interest us to learn more and from professionalists?

i read this comment 5 times and i still dont understand what ur trying to say

Probably, he wanted review of MSI MAG251RX from rtings as it has authoritative opinion, but I believe to RLCScontender measurements and think he did great job! He deserve a donation, but sorry I am poor Russlan

Thanks

believe it or not, i started doing these myself BECAUSE of mainstream reviewers.

here's my 2 cents about those "reviewers". They CAN be helpful. it's better than NOTHING. For example, the Nano IPS panels are generally FASTER than majority of IPS panels and every single one of them has confirmed this.

But you have to be mindful of financial incentive especially if the performance differerences are CLOSE to each other(240hz ips monitors especially).

Some review websites tend to favor ONE panel over the other for no good reason whatsoever and some like to cherry pick favorable traits while ignore the others. Bias in the context of affiliate marketing in my opionion is very problematic among the reviewer community, and it's not difficult to cherry pick or sway certain traits to manipulate ppl into buying a certain product.

One thing ppl can easily fabricate are response times. All they are doing is attaching photodiode to the monitor, connected to an oscilloscope and they measure the response/fall times. But if financial incentive is in their mind, i simply do not trust them, because response times is probably the most important variable when deciding on a fast IPS panel. Again, that's just me. but as an engineer, i'm the type of person who likes to "think for himself" and that i'm not easily manipulated.

unlike ergonomics, brightness, and contrast ratios; response times especially are VERY difficult to REFUTE and argue against since most ppl dont' really know the underlying mechanisms on how they get those numbers (unless of course they tehemselves have an electrical engineering background).

One thing's for sure. They are definitely HUSH HUSH on what photosensor(or modified photosensor) they are using when attaching to their $300 oscilloscope(it looks like a $300 oscilloscope). They dont' really go into detail specifically what it's in that thing. My guess is, if ppl knew those specific hardware, then ppl can just do it themselves and can REFUTE THEIR measurements. And yes, it's really not that expensive to do it.

[iopq]

i've never owned the asus vg259qm but i'm fairly certain it has the same specs as the 27" version.

Forii here owned both and claimed that the 25" version showed ghosting at 80 OD so he reduced it down to 60od

generally speaking, the 280hz Asus is around 4ms response time with the fastest overall and gave the best overall gamign performance out of all the MONITORS that i've ever used. as long as you are at 280hz, you have a slight advantage over anyone who doesn't own the 280hz asus

what's funny is why so many ppl are apprehensive about OC to 280hz. doesn't make sense to me but that extra kick in frames was worth it when i had the 27" version

Thanks, unless there's a better option, I think I'll go with the 25" model. There's a sale on jd.com on the 18th of June so I'm going to go over the prices just one more time and compare to Taobao, but I'm certain this is going to be the best option since the MAG is not even sold here.

[RLCSContender*]

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yup, that's an excellent choice, the 280hz asus has the best peak performance out of the 240hz ips bunch(presuming u can get 280hz FPS in a game) thx to the +40hz frame advantage you get.

Generally speaking, the Alienware AW2521HF, Asus vg259qm/vg279qm, and the msi mag251rx are the THREE 240hz(280 for the Asus) monitors that i highly recommend and in my opinion, the three best. Asus for the PEAK performance, Alienware for build quality and performance, and MSI for Colors AND performance. Just make sure the in-game FPS is at least getting 280hz FPS

keep in mind, the asus vg259qm is fairly hard to come by. THat or it's heavily marked up because there's such a high demand. Here in the united s tates, it's only $320 MSRP on amazon but can go up as high as $480. For $320, that's a MASSIVe steal relative to the performance.

[Doriantny]

ok. I see a lot of people writing nonsense... So i have in front of my eyes the aw2521 and has so much motion blur that i cannot play... and gives me headaches. i have the old tn Acer HUA 165, and even on 144 the motion is so much better on the tn... It's soooo distracting in Apex or Cs this motion blur, that makes you so shit ). Yes there is better feeling, and smoother, but that's it... I had the xl2546 and it's a very big difference. So if you want the best motion blur clarity, go for 144 tn or 240. Cuz ips needs more time to grow, or it will never happen with this technology. Maybe mini led, micro led whatever nano led picolo led, atom led, but ips it's a no go if you want clear pictures at 144 or 240... i will send it back cuz i'm sooo dizzy from it. the X25f has the lowest input lag, but no strobing... and nitro has, but maybe is above the 4.17 from some testing on net.

[sk1p]

i've never owned the asus vg259qm but i'm fairly certain it has the same specs as the 27" version.

Forii here owned both and claimed that the 25" version showed ghosting at 80 OD so he reduced it down to 60od

generally speaking, the 280hz Asus is around 4ms response time with the fastest overall and gave the best overall gamign performance out of all the MONITORS that i've ever used. as long as you are at 280hz, you have a slight advantage over anyone who doesn't own the 280hz asus

what's funny is why so many ppl are apprehensive about OC to 280hz. doesn't make sense to me but that extra kick in frames was worth it when i had the 27" version

I see a bit advantage in CS GO when I use 80OD and 280hz, but can play well with stock 240hz and 60OD. Also I apprehensive 80OD and 280hz mode)) following the logics it's unnormal monitor mode(I think, but may be it's wrong opinion) or is it safely for power supply or some other parts of monitor during the long time using?

[bleach]

Forii here owned both and claimed that the 25" version showed ghosting at 80 OD so he reduced it down to 60od

Mine overshot above 60 OD as well

[rasmas]

RLCScontender would you recommend the MSI MAG251rx set at 120Hz (+ 12bit colour) or would you use 144Hz monitors?

I think i can mantain 120 fps, but doubt i can hold 240 on most games, or any.


I mean if i can be lucky and get the same panel as yours and not the newer and worse panel. Any advice on how to check if it is the "good one".

Thank you .

[axaro1]

i will send it back cuz i'm sooo dizzy from it.

Drink some water dude you sound dehydrated, I'm comparing my VG259QM at 280hz with my XG2402 144hz TN(one of the best 144hz TN) and the difference in motion blur is imperceptible.
The response time on the Asus is crazy good imo

[RLCSContender*]

Forii here owned both and claimed that the 25" version showed ghosting at 80 OD so he reduced it down to 60od

Mine overshot above 60 OD as well

how bad?

u shouldn't see overshoot at 80 OD because when i measured the VG279qm, there was very minimal overshoot(like 1-2%)

then again, maybe the 25" version just doesn't have the same overdrive tuning as the 27" version.

Forii here claimed that at 80 OD, there was overshoot so he plays at 60 OD at 240hz for the 25" version